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Filipe isn't that old, he'll still be playing for around four more years. He'd work well with Courtois, and Costa, if both are brought in come the new season. As much as I'd like us to sign a young LB such as Shaw, I wouldn't mind Chelsea paying 20m for one of the best left-backs in the world. Hopefully he'll play ahead of Marcelo at the World Cup.

Think it is, if not close to it already. He's already 29 years old and arguably only have 3-4 years left at the top level. Already at his peak and will past it soon. Why pay 16.5 million for a LB of his age, however good he is, and then having to spend a similar amount again in a few years time for a new LB? In this case, might as well, just pay the whole 30 million for a 19-year old LB that will serve us for the next 15 years and be done with it once and for all.

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i thought shaw was done. moreover dont see how we can top a 30mil, 100kpw and first team offer.

I think as long as we can offer Shaw a good chance at first team football and agree a fee with Southampton, he'll choose us over United. He doesn't really strike me as someone who is materialistic and if he can get a chance to join the club he has supported since young, then I'm sure he'll jump at that chance. Doubt he'll concern much about his wages now when sooner or later, he will get a high one should he continue to develop upwardly.

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Shaw isn't done yet no, so personally I'm still labouring hope that we can perhaps drive the price down.

As for our first team? Shaw would (should) walk straight into it. United shouldn't have any leverage in that regard.

I think as long as we can offer Shaw a good chance at first team football and agree a fee with Southampton, he'll choose us over United. He doesn't really strike me as someone who is materialistic and if he can get a chance to join the club he has supported since young, then I'm sure he'll jump at that chance. Doubt he'll concern much about his wages now when sooner or later, he will get a high one should he continue to develop upwardly.

lets hope he comes then.

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I suspect the Man U offer for Shaw is less than reported in the tabloids. (isn't it always?) I'd say it's probably closer to £21-25m range. I'd personally offer Southampton £20m plus Bertrand and see where we go from there.

I'd much rather him than Filipe Luis.

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Not too sure about this TBH. Would rather spent £30 million on a 19-year old LB who can serve us for the next 15 years rather than £16.5 million on a 29-year old LB who would probably only serve us for 3-4 years at the highest level.

I actually would've agreed with this a few weeks ago, but three years is a long-time. Filipe Luis is a very good player and would be a step up for our (already strong) defence whilst costing half of what Shaw would and probably being on lower wages too. He's much less of a gamble than Shaw, which of cause means the rewards could be lower but so would the risks.

3-4 years also gives us time to develop our own youngsters in that position to be the 'next Luke Shaw' if you will.

Whilst I'd love for us to get Shaw, there's always more than one way to get young English talent in the ranks.

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Is the Telegraph reliable ?

The Telegraph is reserved as newspapers go. They don't tend to go crazy with the rumours although they will sometimes report rumours from other sources.

Of course it varies from reporter to reporter - Ogden is good on United rumours for instance (broke the Moyes leaving story). The final is tomorrow so you'd expect any deal to move forward at the start of next week.

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Is the Telegraph reliable ?

Telegraph, and Guardian I tend to believe over others, but again it depends who is reporting. Ogden as mentioned is good for Utd news, as is David Mcdonnell of The Mirror. Neil Ashton of Daily Mail used to be good for Chelsea stories don't know about now. [he broke the smoke bomb incident, and cole shooting the work exprience lad before anyone]. So although certain papers get ridiculed for being rubbish, some reporters genuinely are pretty reliable

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So we apparently want to bring Courtois back and will sign Costa soon, and now we want Filipe Luis and Koke as well? Hah what the hell there are other clubs to buy from apart from Atletico! Given that they seem to have really good players in every position perhaps it's the system/tactics making them look better than they actually are, which means they're far from guaranteed to be a success here if any of them do come (although that applies less to Courtois).

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