RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 It would be great if he could do the corner too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 FILIPEEEEEEEEEEE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I wasn't expecting that at all. I was like... 'where did it come from?'I still think he's somewhat of a liability defensively, so playing away against teams that will attack us, even Iva and his crazy stuff makes more sense because I feel like Iva harass opposition more than he does, is firmer, and stronger.But we don't actually face many teams that attack us much, do we?I think most home games, especially against team that play more defensively than average, he's the key.Mourinho said after the Hull game that he went with Luís because we didn't have Cesc and the team needed someone to produce something else in the attack. So Mourinho is aware of it, but I do have a feeling he'll continue to pick Azpi and Iva even in the games where we should comfortably play Luís against teams that won't really threaten us offensively.And as much as I want Luís to be part of the starting XI, if he doesn't improve his physical defending and 1 vs 1, I'm glad he isn't a regular. I already feel like we're exposed enough with Cahill playing far from his best form, we don't need a vulnerable FB in addition to that.I agree. I said it a couple of pages back, against teams where we're going to have 60+% possession, Luis should play. His crossing, shooting and free-kick abilities means he is a more of an offensive threat than Azpilicueta and Ivanovic. Stats and Barbara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 His free kick goal yesterday was definitely one of those "where did that come from?!" moments. Superb execution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Some nice analysis by Pat Nevin even though he does suggest Luis, who was a key cog in arguably the best pressing team in the world, has only just learnt how to press lolhttps://archive.org/details/AnalyseThatPatNevinFilipeLuisVDerbyCountyCoc2014-15Hd GhanaBoy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I'm surprised he's being dismissed as a "liability defensively" after barely playing a dozen games for Chelsea. Like he doesn't need anytime to adapt to the team. The Filipe Luis I know, particularly from his Atleti days is NOT a defensive liability. The Skipper and DYC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 As good as Pat is, he tends to big up Chelsea. I wouldn't pay too much attention to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneChan95 225 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 As good as Pat is, he tends to big up Chelsea. I wouldn't pay too much attention to it.What I think of Pat is that he is a nice guy and not one to really look for arguments. He's unlikely to be harsh with criticism and tries to look for the good in everything. I believe it's similar with other teams that he likes too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 What I think of Pat is that he is a nice guy and not one to really look for arguments. He's unlikely to be harsh with criticism and tries to look for the good in everything. I believe it's similar with other teams that he likes too Yeah possibly. I've only ever seen/heard him on Chelsea TV but I take it he has a soft spot for Everton and Celtic as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I'm surprised he's being dismissed as a "liability defensively" after barely playing a dozen games for Chelsea. Like he doesn't need anytime to adapt to the team. The Filipe Luis I know, particularly from his Atleti days is NOT a defensive liability. I think he isn't there yet, and we can't afford his 'adaptation' with matches against those teams.He's failed in all goals we've conceded coming from his side while he was playing for us in the EPL. I understand that as a liability as it stands, it's completely different from the liability Cahill offers though. Luís is better than this and he needs more time. Cahill overachieved last season, when a setup favored him and covered his limitations. Luís can still progress, but as it stands now, even the five games he played because of Azpili's suspension showed he has a way to go before he can be played there for us regardless of who we're facing.Just because he's the most technical (maybe even the best) FB we have, doesn't mean he's ready to take part of the team in tougher matches. He isn't imo.And I agree, his Atletico days show us how much a good defender he can be. Many people in Brazil see him as a defensive FB - based on how our FBs normally play. He also sees himself as more defensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneChan95 225 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Yeah possibly. I've only ever seen/heard him on Chelsea TV but I take it he has a soft spot for Everton and Celtic as well? Yeah I think so although Celtic doesn't live up to his standards now. Seems pretty supportive of his national team too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Needs to start against Stoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I think he isn't there yet, and we can't afford his 'adaptation' with matches against those teams.He's failed in all goals we've conceded coming from his side while he was playing for us in the EPL. I understand that as a liability as it stands, it's completely different from the liability Cahill offers though. Luís is better than this and he needs more time. Cahill overachieved last season, when a setup favored him and covered his limitations. Luís can still progress, but as it stands now, even the five games he played because of Azpili's suspension showed he has a way to go before he can be played there for us regardless of who we're facing.Just because he's the most technical (maybe even the best) FB we have, doesn't mean he's ready to take part of the team in tougher matches. He isn't imo.And I agree, his Atletico days show us how much a good defender he can be. Many people in Brazil see him as a defensive FB - based on how our FBs normally play. He also sees himself as more defensive.Ivanovic is more of a defensive liability since over half the goals we've conceded have come from his side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Ivanovic is more of a defensive liability since over half the goals we've conceded have come from his side.I know Iva has some goals conceded on his account too... but I feel like Luis' mistakes are more eye catching and knowing the defender he is, you know those mistakes are probably because of adaptation issues. It's like he's still too soft for the league because he didn't make the same mistakes in UCL... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
special Eden 78 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 ChelsTransferGossip @ChelsTransfer 36 min36 minutter sidenMourinho on anti-Chelsea media (1/2): "You speak one week about a dive that was not even a dive and you don’t speak about Filipe Luis" #CFC ChelsTransferGossip @ChelsTransfer 36 min36 minutter sidenMourinho on anti-Chelsea media (2/2): "... who could be this moment in hospital with big surgery on his knee or leg" #CFC (Mail) WTF?! Injured or his he just saying something to make a point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hostedenis 556 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 ChelsTransferGossip @ChelsTransfer 36 min36 minutter sidenMourinho on anti-Chelsea media (1/2): "You speak one week about a dive that was not even a dive and you don’t speak about Filipe Luis" #CFC ChelsTransferGossip @ChelsTransfer 36 min36 minutter sidenMourinho on anti-Chelsea media (2/2): "... who could be this moment in hospital with big surgery on his knee or leg" #CFC (Mail) WTF?! Injured or his he just saying something to make a point?He's talking about the same game in which there was both a dive by Cahill and a tackle on Felipe (the one that got them a red card) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 He knows he's talking bollocks about Cahill ... it was a dive all day long. But it's a deliberate tactic so it's all good. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
special Eden 78 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 He's talking about the same game in which there was both a dive by Cahill and a tackle on Felipe (the one that got them a red card)aaaah right! thank god Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Dave wasn't the greatest by any stretch when he first came and we were unsure but saw promise, some time on the bench, training, getting used to tactics and plain old hard graft turned him into one of the best full backs in the premier league. It takes a special player to come into the league and hit the ground running for a team fighting for multiple trophies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakez 755 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Anyone also feel bad for the guy? He had some troubling spells during the first half coupled with a really nice second half spell (except for that cross towards the end). He's probably the 1 player i think that would improve massively with more game-time, although i doubt Mourinho is going to give it to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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