nate91 36 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Well, we can sell Eden and sign Reus and Isco. : )I don't think anyone would turn that deal down. Reus is on another level then Eden right now and is probably the best attacking midfielder Germany has to offer. What he did in his few appearances in the bundesliga along with his awesome CL display definitely puts him in the upper echelon of attacking mids. I would seriously fear if a big time rival acquired Reus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyfreshh 164 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I don't think anyone would turn that deal down. Reus is on another level then Eden right now and is probably the best attacking midfielder Germany has to offer. What he did in his few appearances in the bundesliga along with his awesome CL display definitely puts him in the upper echelon of attacking mids. I would seriously fear if a big time rival acquired Reus. Hazard is a complete player and very young.. I don't know if Reus is better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Want to wait until the beginning of the season before this kind of reaction.The team is full of WC flops, so I understand people are dismissing those players. Its the same reason why people are saying everywhere that Schurle deserves more playing time next season, even if in his first season he was average at best in most of his playing time, despite his decent goal record. To be honest its crazy to create a crisis even before the season started... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate91 36 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Hazard is a complete player and very young.. I don't know if Reus is betterReus is a far more accomplished player in terms of goals/assists. He has the same tools Eden has but is a more explosive player who can score from anywhere on the pitch. Reus is without a doubt better at this current moment, but Hazard is still young which is his saving grace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Hazard is a complete player and very young.. I don't know if Reus is betterReus is a top 5 winger and a year older than Eden. Not to mention Germany's best attacking player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Hazard is a complete player and very young.. I don't know if Reus is betterReus is a top 5 winger and a year older than Eden. Not to mention Germany's best attacking player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,515 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Reus is a top 5 winger and a year older than Eden. Not to mention Germany's best attacking player.I'd say Thomas Müller is Germany's best attacking player...followed by Reus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I'd say Thomas Müller is Germany's best attacking player...followed by ReusI disagree. But to each their own. I like Reus better, Müller is so clutch though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I don't think anyone would turn that deal down. Reus is on another level then Eden right now and is probably the best attacking midfielder Germany has to offer. What he did in his few appearances in the bundesliga along with his awesome CL display definitely puts him in the upper echelon of attacking mids. I would seriously fear if a big time rival acquired Reus.Reus is a very good player and I'm actually a fan of him but this is a case of opinion being stated as if it were a fact. There is no way you can say he is on another level from Hazard. It's bullshit. He's no Ronaldo or Messi. An Muller is Germany's best attacking midfielder and arguably best player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I don't think anyone would turn that deal down. Reus is on another level then Eden right now and is probably the best attacking midfielder Germany has to offer. What he did in his few appearances in the bundesliga along with his awesome CL display definitely puts him in the upper echelon of attacking mids. I would seriously fear if a big time rival acquired Reus.This has to be a joke post, right? Another level than Hazard? I think Hazard is easily better than Reus right now and will only get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 This has to be a joke post, right? Another level than Hazard? I think Hazard is easily better than Reus right now and will only get better.Reus is consistent and is very well rounded. Vision, creativity, dribbling, finishing, set pieces, etc. I love Hazard, but he doesn't touch Reus. They are only a year or so apart in age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate91 36 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 This has to be a joke post, right? Another level than Hazard? I think Hazard is easily better than Reus right now and will only get better.Reus production in the bundesliga and CL speaks for itself. Hazard is far too inconsistent as of now. I don't know if your that blinded but it is easy to see that Marco is on another level. Do you even watch the Bundesliga? Reus performs better then Ribery and Robben on a consistent basis, and you want to say Hazard is on that level? We are all Chelsea fans here but stop being so blinded by your allegiance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Reus is consistent and is very well rounded. Vision, creativity, dribbling, finishing, set pieces, etc. I love Hazard, but he doesn't touch Reus. They are only a year or so apart in age.Reus is an excellent player. Not a chance I'd have him over Hazard.If Hazard was sold Reus would be atop the list of direct replacements, but to say Hazard "doesn't touch" him is mind boggling to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I am actually not too worried about the WC flops of our players, most did not even get a proper chance and are not at fault for the dismissal of their team. It is only the fuckin WC, the frist WC for most of our players, no wonder they have not set the world on fire. In the end, club football is why we are here and why our WC players are footballers. Even if my team wins the final on Sunday I will be really happy and celebrating for a few days, but in the end a WC is only a nice way to bridge the summer pause and does not give me remotedly the thrill of seeing Chelsea play. I guess it is the same for most of our players, esp those who never reall yhad a chance to achieve much in the WC. They should be professional enough to shrug off those disappointments, you always have. Not every Chelsea player can be World Champion, no reason why they should be in crisis because of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Reus is an excellent player. Not a chance I'd have him over Hazard.If Hazard was sold Reus would be atop the list of direct replacements, but to say Hazard "doesn't touch" him is mind boggling to me.Reus won player of the year in Bundesliga over Ribery, Kroos, Robben, Lewandowski, etc. And he is consistent in the CL and Bundesliga.What exactly does Hazard do better than Reus? Dribble? I love Hazard, but Reus is better. Far better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Reus production in the bundesliga and CL speaks for itself. Hazard is far too inconsistent as of now. I don't know if your that blinded but it is easy to see that Marco is on another level. Do you even watch the Bundesliga? Reus performs better then Ribery and Robben on a consistent basis, and you want to say Hazard is on that level? We are all Chelsea fans here but stop being so blinded by your allegiance. Reus 2011/2012: 21 goals 10 assists Hazard 2011/2012 : 20 goals 16 assistsReus 2012/2013 : 17 goals 11 assists Hazard 2012/2013 : 13 goals 17 assistsReus 2013/2014 : 23 goals 17 assists Hazard 2013/14 goals : 17 goals 10 assistsThese stats are from ESPN. Now I know stats only tell half the story (for instance, Hazard last season was better than 2 seasons ago, but his assists stat 2 seasons ago are more impressive because of our more "conservative" play last season), but there is really not that much difference between the two and this is excluding the "chances created stat" which is the best indicator as to a player's creativity. Hazard FAR outstrips Reus in that department.So as you can see, this is not "blinded" but just a response to your ill-informed post. As for Reus playing better than Ribery, who cares? Ribery was incredibly poor last season after he returned from knee injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Reus won player of the year in Bundesliga over Ribery, Kroos, Robben, Lewandowski, etc. And he is consistent in the CL and Bundesliga.What exactly does Hazard do better than Reus? Dribble? I love Hazard, but Reus is better. Far better.The ONLY thing Reus is better than Hazard at is finishing.Far better? Absolutely ridiculous. If both were free agents right now Hazard would be much more coveted and go for a FAR bigger fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Reus won player of the year in Bundesliga over Ribery, Kroos, Robben, Lewandowski, etc. And he is consistent in the CL and Bundesliga.What exactly does Hazard do better than Reus? Dribble? I love Hazard, but Reus is better. Far betterThat's just mind-bogglingly wrong but you are entitled to your opinion, regardless of how way off it is. Will Reus win the Player of the year ahead of Luis Suarez? Also wasn't Hazard voted 2nd in the Premier league player of the year ahead of Silva, Toure, Aguero and Sturridge? So that's hardly a good point.What does Hazard do better than Reus? He creates MUCH more chances than him. Like I just posted, their goal-scoring stats for club are roughly equal. Hazard is also harder to deal with than Reus because of just how many weapons he possesses. He draws tons of defenders to him even though he is almost always double-marked (Reus is not) and creates space for others. I can go on but I'll stop there. There's no way Reus could have carried Chelsea on his back the way Hazard did last season. I just don't see him being able to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 The ONLY thing Reus is better than Hazard at is finishing.Far better? Absolutely ridiculous. If both were free agents right now Hazard would be much more coveted and go for a FAR bigger fee.Ridiculous indeed. But Hazard plays for us so he is under-estimated. I see that a lot. If Hazard was placed on the market today, he will be priced at 70+ million. Reus will be around 45 million at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Reus carried Dortmund.Reus created 90.chances.Hazard created 92 chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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