Attacking midfielders crisis?

[iseah100 5,612]

This has to be a joke post, right? Another level than Hazard? I think Hazard is easily better than Reus right now and will only get better.

Reus is consistent and is very well rounded. Vision, creativity, dribbling, finishing, set pieces, etc. I love Hazard, but he doesn't touch Reus. They are only a year or so apart in age.

[nate91 36]

This has to be a joke post, right? Another level than Hazard? I think Hazard is easily better than Reus right now and will only get better.

Reus production in the bundesliga and CL speaks for itself. Hazard is far too inconsistent as of now. I don't know if your that blinded but it is easy to see that Marco is on another level. Do you even watch the Bundesliga? Reus performs better then Ribery and Robben on a consistent basis, and you want to say Hazard is on that level? We are all Chelsea fans here but stop being so blinded by your allegiance.

[Pizy 18,850]

Reus is consistent and is very well rounded. Vision, creativity, dribbling, finishing, set pieces, etc. I love Hazard, but he doesn't touch Reus. They are only a year or so apart in age.

Reus is an excellent player. Not a chance I'd have him over Hazard.

If Hazard was sold Reus would be atop the list of direct replacements, but to say Hazard "doesn't touch" him is mind boggling to me.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

I am actually not too worried about the WC flops of our players, most did not even get a proper chance and are not at fault for the dismissal of their team. It is only the fuckin WC, the frist WC for most of our players, no wonder they have not set the world on fire. In the end, club football is why we are here and why our WC players are footballers. Even if my team wins the final on Sunday I will be really happy and celebrating for a few days, but in the end a WC is only a nice way to bridge the summer pause and does not give me remotedly the thrill of seeing Chelsea play. I guess it is the same for most of our players, esp those who never reall yhad a chance to achieve much in the WC. They should be professional enough to shrug off those disappointments, you always have. Not every Chelsea player can be World Champion, no reason why they should be in crisis because of that.

[iseah100 5,612]

Reus is an excellent player. Not a chance I'd have him over Hazard.

If Hazard was sold Reus would be atop the list of direct replacements, but to say Hazard "doesn't touch" him is mind boggling to me.

Reus won player of the year in Bundesliga over Ribery, Kroos, Robben, Lewandowski, etc. And he is consistent in the CL and Bundesliga.

What exactly does Hazard do better than Reus? Dribble? I love Hazard, but Reus is better. Far better.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Reus production in the bundesliga and CL speaks for itself. Hazard is far too inconsistent as of now. I don't know if your that blinded but it is easy to see that Marco is on another level. Do you even watch the Bundesliga? Reus performs better then Ribery and Robben on a consistent basis, and you want to say Hazard is on that level? We are all Chelsea fans here but stop being so blinded by your allegiance.

Reus 2011/2012: 21 goals 10 assists Hazard 2011/2012 : 20 goals 16 assists

Reus 2012/2013 : 17 goals 11 assists Hazard 2012/2013 : 13 goals 17 assists

Reus 2013/2014 : 23 goals 17 assists Hazard 2013/14 goals : 17 goals 10 assists

These stats are from ESPN. Now I know stats only tell half the story (for instance, Hazard last season was better than 2 seasons ago, but his assists stat 2 seasons ago are more impressive because of our more "conservative" play last season), but there is really not that much difference between the two and this is excluding the "chances created stat" which is the best indicator as to a player's creativity. Hazard FAR outstrips Reus in that department.

So as you can see, this is not "blinded" but just a response to your ill-informed post. As for Reus playing better than Ribery, who cares? Ribery was incredibly poor last season after he returned from knee injury.

[Pizy 18,850]

Reus won player of the year in Bundesliga over Ribery, Kroos, Robben, Lewandowski, etc. And he is consistent in the CL and Bundesliga.

What exactly does Hazard do better than Reus? Dribble? I love Hazard, but Reus is better. Far better.

The ONLY thing Reus is better than Hazard at is finishing.

Far better? Absolutely ridiculous. If both were free agents right now Hazard would be much more coveted and go for a FAR bigger fee.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Reus won player of the year in Bundesliga over Ribery, Kroos, Robben, Lewandowski, etc. And he is consistent in the CL and Bundesliga.

What exactly does Hazard do better than Reus? Dribble? I love Hazard, but Reus is better. Far better

That's just mind-bogglingly wrong but you are entitled to your opinion, regardless of how way off it is. Will Reus win the Player of the year ahead of Luis Suarez? Also wasn't Hazard voted 2nd in the Premier league player of the year ahead of Silva, Toure, Aguero and Sturridge? So that's hardly a good point.

What does Hazard do better than Reus? He creates MUCH more chances than him. Like I just posted, their goal-scoring stats for club are roughly equal. Hazard is also harder to deal with than Reus because of just how many weapons he possesses. He draws tons of defenders to him even though he is almost always double-marked (Reus is not) and creates space for others. I can go on but I'll stop there. There's no way Reus could have carried Chelsea on his back the way Hazard did last season. I just don't see him being able to.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

The ONLY thing Reus is better than Hazard at is finishing.

Far better? Absolutely ridiculous. If both were free agents right now Hazard would be much more coveted and go for a FAR bigger fee.

Ridiculous indeed. But Hazard plays for us so he is under-estimated. I see that a lot. If Hazard was placed on the market today, he will be priced at 70+ million. Reus will be around 45 million at best.

[iseah100 5,612]

Reus carried Dortmund.

Reus created 90.chances.

Hazard created 92 chances.

[mediator 2,026]

I won't say that there is an attacking midfielders crisis yet. We were lacking creativeness from the middle of the park, and with Fabregas's arrival, i'm sure we will see something else very soon.

Add to that a real attacking LB (Luis ?) and even with Torres upfront, we will see another Chelsea.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Reus carried Dortmund.

No he did not. In fact, he was poor in the first half of last season but exploded in the second. No player has "carried" Dortmund at least since Klopp has been in charge. Not Reus, Lewa, Kagawa. Nobody. They are very much a team with a defined style of play, something we aren't. He also had the benefit of playing alongside Lewandowski in attack, a world class striker who scored 28 goals last season, more than all our strikers combined. Hazard didn't have that.

[Pizy 18,850]

Reus carried Dortmund.

Reus created 90.chances.

Hazard created 92 chances.

Reus plays in a 2 team league that Bayern won at a cantor with months to spare.

Hazard plays in the most competitive league in the world and created about 20 more chances than the next highest in the league. He could've had 25+ assists last season if we didn't have donkey's up front who can't finish.

[iseah100 5,612]

No he did not. No player has "carried" Dortmund at least since Klopp has been in charge. Not Reus, Lewa, Kagawa. Nobody. They are very much a team with a defined style of play, something we aren't. He also had the benefit of playing alongside Lewandowski in attack, a world class striker who scored 28 goals last season, more than all our strikers combined. Hazard didn't have that.

Still. You said Hazard was much more creative than Reus, 90 chances created to 92 for Hazard.

[nate91 36]

Still. You said Hazard was much more creative than Reus, 90 chances created to 92 for Hazard.

On top of that fact that Reus scores more goals and he is just a more explosive player in general. Reus was also injured most of this year, and performed better then Hazard in the CL this year. Did Eden even show up for the CL this year?