lionsden 4,689 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Isco!!! Rotting on the bench at Real and still shows he can produce magic like this when he is playing. A little different for Cesc, more like Hazard one would say but another Spanish gem!!I'm a fan of Isco but he's a pure AM and not a midfield controller like Cesc. The closest to cesc in the next generation of Spanish talent is Oliver Torres, he's more Xavi than Cesc in terms of playing style but much more comparable to Cesc than isco.I wouldn't say no to isco mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I think he could be the Captain before he leaves. He IS a leaderYeah, it's definitely a possibilty when you think about it. There's talk about Cahill taking over from Terry but your captain should always be one of your best players imo. Something Gary isn't for me.Cesc's experience and ability makes him a good candidate. Besides, it would kill more than a few Gooners in the process. Win-win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Isco!!! Rotting on the bench at Real and still shows he can produce magic like this when he is playing. A little different for Cesc, more like Hazard one would say but another Spanish gem!!Honestly Isco has nothing to do with Cesc in terms of players they are. Completely different players and even position.Cesc is the same breed as Alonso... and I can't think of a young guy with the same. But tbh, normally those kind of players catch your eyes later... Cholo and mediator 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustafa 885 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Honestly Isco has nothing to do with Cesc in terms of players they are. Completely different players and even position.Cesc is the same breed as Alonso... and I can't think of a young guy with the same. But tbh, normally those kind of players catch your eyes later...I'm a fan of Isco but he's a pure AM and not a midfield controller like Cesc. The closest to cesc in the next generation of Spanish talent is Oliver Torres, he's more Xavi than Cesc in terms of playing style but much more comparable to Cesc than isco.I wouldn't say no to isco mind.Definitely not the same player as Cesc but he's another Spanish talent, like Cesc was and like Mata was.Imo he is THE hottest talent in European football at the moment. He's on the same boat as Gotze, Neymar, Oscar, and even Hazard. Only, he's only had ONE season where he was top class and in that season he almost took Malaga to the semi-final of the Champions League. Since then, he's been screwed over by Madrid. But yes, I do understand that he's different from Cesc, but as @5354 said, he's another Spaniard that I wouldn't mind at the club. In fact, one that I would love at the club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myself 793 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 thiago alcantara is the new cesc/xavi. koke could be too, but they're different types od players kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinAshburner 1,270 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Why Cesc Fabregas Never Lived Up To His Potential At Barcelona Posted on October 12, 2014 by Saad Rashid Link url Name : worldsoccertalk.com/2014/10/12/why-cesc-fabregas-never-lived-up-to-his-potential-at-barcelona/Link : http://worldsoccertalk.com/2014/10/12/why-cesc-fabregas-never-lived-up-to-his-potential-at-barcelona/Source : worldsoccertalk.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Koke, Isco, Cesc, oliver Torres, Spain have a lot of young talent waiting to takeover, but Spain will go as far as their future captain and their best player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Honestly Isco has nothing to do with Cesc in terms of players they are. Completely different players and even position.Cesc is the same breed as Alonso... and I can't think of a young guy with the same. But tbh, normally those kind of players catch your eyes later...eh, Cesc isnt really like alonso. Cesc is like Modric +Kroos combined moreso than alonso. Cesc isnt really as dynamic as modric, but he isnt as weak as modric as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cholo 428 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Cesc is Cesc. Case closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Thiago is the best Spanish talent imo. Always admired his abilities. He is a midfield control general like xavi with Iniesta style of dribbling. When he stops getting injured and plays for Spain, people will understand just how good he is. Nike and Myself 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Thiago is the best Spanish talent imo. Always admired his abilities. He is a midfield control general like xavi with Iniesta style of dribbling. When he stops getting injured and plays for Spain, people will understand just how good he is.Thiago was better than Cesc at Cesc's prime or during his spell at arsenal...However, due to his status and long transfer, Cesc got more attention and fans automatically assumed Cesc would be the heir to Xavi, when in reality in should of went to Thiago... However, pep knew who was the better midfielder and he brought him over to munich and pretty much made Kroos obsolete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustafa 885 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Koke, Isco, Cesc, oliver Torres, Spain have a lot of young talent waiting to takeover, but Spain will go as far as their future captain and their best player.Ouuuu I don't know man... I mean, Thiago is a quality player and he's one of my favourite youngster due to his beautiful technique (much like Isco) but I think Isco will be a better player and has a higher ceiling. I would not be surprised if Thiago becomes Spain's captain in the future (although the likes of Cesc and Busquets will be around) but in terms of Spain's star player, I'd have to say that would probably turn out to be Isco. For instance, at the U21 Euro's, even tho Thiago won the Player of the Tournament, I think you'd agree Isco was the better player throughout the tournament. Thiago's hattrick in the final was what made his win the Player of the Tournament imo. Both class players tho... kinda segued from the whole Cesc topic tho ahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Ouuuu I don't know man... I mean, Thiago is a quality player and he's one of my favourite youngster due to his beautiful technique (much like Isco) but I think Isco will be a better player and has a higher ceiling. I would not be surprised if Thiago becomes Spain's captain in the future (although the likes of Cesc and Busquets will be around) but in terms of Spain's star player, I'd have to say that would probably turn out to be Isco. For instance, at the U21 Euro's, even tho Thiago won the Player of the Tournament, I think you'd agree Isco was the better player throughout the tournament. Thiago's hattrick in the final was what made his win the Player of the Tournament imo. Both class players tho... kinda segued from the whole Cesc topic tho ahah Cesc wont be around during the era of thiag/ddg/isco, etc...Thiago u20s team all did well...u17 champu21 champ 2x.The team he was not on due to injury were the world cup 2014 and olympic team of 2012. Both didnt progress pass the group stage and the olympic team that had the likes of DDG, mata, martinez, koke, isco failed terribly. The catalans all know they made a mistake signing Cesc during the time Thiago should of been groomed better. Thiago is xavi +ronadinho. That is how highly I rate him. A person that left cesc and kroos both in the dark at such a young age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFC12 134 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Koke could be close but different to Cesc but he's real quality midfielder. I really wanted him to join Chelsea before Cesc came to the frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted October 13, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted October 13, 2014 Thiago was better than Cesc at Cesc's prime or during his spell at arsenal...Based on what? Youtube compilations? Have you actually seen Cesc play in his Arsenal days?Thiago is 23 and I don't even know if he has played 80 games for Barcelona and Bayern combined. Cesc at 23 was already captaining the Arsenal side and had 200 games in the EPL. Plus Champions League, FA Cup and League Cup matches. Yes, Thiago is a great talent and an exciting player to watch, but better than Cesc in his Arsenal days??? No way Kieran., The Chels, Dion and 11 others 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Based on what? Youtube compilations? Have you actually seen Cesc play in his Arsenal days?Thiago is 23 and I don't even know if he has played 80 games for Barcelona and Bayern combined. Cesc at 23 was already captaining the Arsenal side and had 200 games in the EPL. Plus Champions League, FA Cup and League Cup matches. Yes, Thiago is a great talent and an exciting player to watch, but better than Cesc in his Arsenal days??? No wayYou can see it.... neymar never played for barca, but barca were willing to spend big because everyone knew neymar was the best young player in the world.In spain, especially catalonia, thiago was the best kid to come out of the academy since messi.thiago specialized in one touch football, something barca excels at, something cesc never excel at... Just because he had better stats, doesnt make him the better player for a specific system.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 You can see it.... neymar never played for barca, but barca were willing to spend big because everyone knew neymar was the best young player in the world.In spain, especially catalonia, thiago was the best kid to come out of the academy since messi.thiago specialized in one touch football, something barca excels at, something cesc never excel at... Just because he had better stats, doesnt make him the better player for a specific system..I love Thiago but sorry, due to his injuries you can't be saying that he's already been better than Cesc in his Arsenal days. Cesc was one of the best, if not the best CM in the league for numerous years. Thiago can't even complete a season without getting injured. Joker10 and bababoom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I love Thiago but sorry, due to his injuries you can't be saying that he's already been better than Cesc in his Arsenal days. Cesc was one of the best, if not the best CM in the league for numerous years. Thiago can't even complete a season without getting injured.Xabi alonso was the best cm in the league....Thiago wasn't part of a youth/fiscal generation of arsenal, he was part of the prime years of barcelona.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Well I am just delighted WE have Cesc /Thou shalt not covet your neighbours wife ,,, (or your Brothers ) unless you Ryan Giggs iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 I remember this prior to signing Cesc...http://www.barcaforum.com/showthread.php/6964-Cesc-Fabregas-or-Thiago-AlcantaraA lot of people from barca felt thiago was already the better player for them even with cesc world class stats at arsenal..There was also another article from a catalan supporter concerning the situationhttp://www.barcablaugranes.com/2011/6/26/2244275/fc-barcelona-european-champion-thiago-alcantara-is-better-than-cescSame people said thiago would rot on the bench at munich, yet outplayed and started instead... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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