OReillyD36 311 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I would rather see pva loaned out, least experienced of the two. I think Ryan has had enough loans tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Do we not need Bertrand for the HG player quota? He is 22 now, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OReillyD36 311 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Do we not need Bertrand for the HG player quota? He is 22 now, correct?Correct, turned 22 today I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Do we not need Bertrand for the HG player quota? He is 22 now, correct?Today he is! PvA is 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 In keeping with UEFA guidelines, an Under 21 player is defined as one who is under the age of 21 on 1st January in the year in which the season commences. For the 2011/12 campaign Under 21 players will have been born on or after 1st January 1990. So he will have to be registered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I would rather see pva loaned out, least experienced of the two. I think Ryan has had enough loans tbhBut PVA is the better player and more likely to end up as Cole successor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OReillyD36 311 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 But PVA is the better player and more likely to end up as Cole successor.Don't know about that, Bertrand is defensively solid and is a great crosser of the ball, the only advantage van aanholt may have is dribbling. It's down to opinion at this stage, so let agree to disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantdeville 195 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 What if: bertrand became the left back successor to cole, and pva played in front of him. Pva has a wicked shot, could see him as that utility left sided player zhirkov was mean to be: stout in defense, with enough skill and technique to play Maloudas winger/second striker role (or whatever u want to call it), and he can tuck inside and go box to box in the left side of a three man midfield. I dunno, just food for thought. Seems like they have too much talent to waste. Manuf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 946 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Don't know about that, Bertrand is defensively solid and is a great crosser of the ball, the only advantage van aanholt may have is dribbling. It's down to opinion at this stage, so let agree to disagree I am more of admirer of attacking fullbacks, this is why i prefer PVA.No doubt Bertrand is better defensively, but thing is attacking fullbacks are more needed in modern football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I am more of admirer of attacking fullbacks, this is why i prefer PVA.No doubt Bertrand is better defensively, but thing is attacking fullbacks are more needed in modern football.sry I have to say you have no clue about Bertrand... he is right now at this stage a way better fullback than pva... pva is more of an winger... and not a left back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Absolutely agreed. PVA is not good enough defensively, we don't need another Bosingwa.As for loaning one out, we have Ferreira to cover at LB, the guy is a defensive genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rantdeville 195 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Remember when malouda played left back for us haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 For the past 5 years Kalou has been playing for one of Europe's elite clubs, it's called the law of averages. The statistics are misleading to say the least, his consistent poor performances & zero development since joining has been laughable. Give Kakuta & Sturridge the same minutes on the pitch and you will see the difference. Kalou has been incredibly fortunate to have played the amount of games he has here. Whilst talented youngsters were shipped off on loan due to Carlo's phobia of inexperience.LOL yeah cos Kakuta did mint at Fulham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 Remember when malouda played left back for us hahaThat horrible Inter tie. Ugh. Bad nights, those.On topic : Ryan has more than proved his mettle at the various clubs he's been loaned to. Can't imagine it would be anything other than disheartening for him if he's shipped out again. Be nice to hear AvB's words on the matter, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino- 116 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 If leaves remain Zhirkov no real alternative to the Cole.I hope to keep Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 If anything, it's PvA who needs to go out on loan. Betrand has enough loan experience now to be able to show us what he can do! i didnt say he didnt i was making the point that we still had pva who wasnt mentioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aesthetic Relic 301 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Few rumours scooting around (Talksport/SSN) that he could be going to Rangers on loan after a conversation between AVB and McCoist/Durrant who are quite close to him (AVB) due to their time together while taking their coaching badges.Apparently Super inquired about the possibility of taking some fringe players off his hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,326 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Yeah, was reading the Scottish papers on the way back. McCoist apparently spoke to AVB about loan deals before and after the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 Fair enough, Rangers are a top club so they can really give him good experience (like he needs anymore tbh)Will also strengthen our ties with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 This better not be true. PvA yes, Bertrand no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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