Polo7 3,496 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Are you saying Yaya and Fernandinho are not as good as Ramires and Matic? Yaya probably best CM in the world atm lol...Im not saying that at all. But why would I, as a Chelsea fan, go on to a Chelsea forum and praise a City player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonPride1905 236 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Why are people comparing Gundogan with Matic? Matic is a true CDM while Gundogan is a CM.I compared them by his post, not by my own will. But, nevertheless, lets not spam. I think it would be a good signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Im not saying that at all. But why would I, as a Chelsea fan, go on to a Chelsea forum and praise a City player?Because most fans are still open minded and not just wearing blue tinted glasses? someone is saying our mid could be the best in the league, I point out that isn't the case because some other team clearly got better options, that is just stating facts, not praising them.Banging then in? Well that sums your knowledge up as their main job is not scoring goals.And look how many goals city leak? Thank youThey have defended well, but they are better in a sense that they even contributed a lot of goals. Like I said, the goals conceded are mostly down to their style of play, we were the same remember until Jose changed approach after that Sunderland game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Aca Stojanović @AcaStop4hUnofficial: Nemanja Matic is Chelsea player from Tuesday. He was not with the Benfica last night, probably won't play vs Porto. Good luck. Sport, mediaBelgrade, Serbia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Because most fans are still open minded and not just wearing blue tinted glasses? someone is saying our mid could be the best in the league, I point out that isn't the case because some other team clearly got better options, that is just stating facts, not praising them.Saying our midfield "could" be the best isnt the case because currently City have a better partnership? Well a true Chelsea fan would also add the age difference between Matic/Ramires and Toure/Fernandinho. But that doesnt matter does it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Matic is in the squad against Portohttp://www.slbenfica.pt/noticias/detalhedenoticia/tabid/2788/ArticleId/33849/language/pt-PT/Jorge-Jesus-convoca-19-futebolistas-para-o-classico.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Matic is in the squad against Portohttp://www.slbenfica.pt/noticias/detalhedenoticia/tabid/2788/ArticleId/33849/language/pt-PT/Jorge-Jesus-convoca-19-futebolistas-para-o-classico.aspx Oh well. Time to move on peeps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Matic is in the squad against Portohttp://www.slbenfica.pt/noticias/detalhedenoticia/tabid/2788/ArticleId/33849/language/pt-PT/Jorge-Jesus-convoca-19-futebolistas-para-o-classico.aspxWell that was awkward, excitement killer right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I don't get the embarrassment thing yeah its easily looks that way in hindsight but for one Matic their is Sinclair, Mancienne etc etcAlso this is where constantly changing managers works against us, Carlo didn't want him but Jose does, if Jose was here in 2011 maybe he would never have left, who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Nemanja Matic is now 1/3 from 5/4 overnight to rejoin Chelsea amid reports he won't play for Benfica against Porto today. See Sky Bet's full market which also features both Manchester clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namika 922 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 João Ruela @joao_ruela5 minMatic will play against FC Porto today, but shall join Chelsea after it. #Benfica #classicoDétails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonPride1905 236 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Like I've said in previous posts, they are awaiting for him to play the game against Porto. After that we could see a transfer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 mourinho and benitez beg to differ on DL's worth as a DM.And Capello, one of the greatest managers of all time, begs to differ on Heskey's worth as a striker to the England national team. . . . . . see where I'm going with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 And Capello, one of the greatest managers of all time, begs to differ on Heskey's worth as a striker to the England national team. . . . . . see where I'm going with this?so u just compared heskey's striking prowess to DL's defensive prowess. seems legit!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 We don't need a playmaker (we've got three of those behind the striker), we need a really good all-rounder who can move the ball forward quicker than our current players, so that said three behind the striker have more time and space to do their thing. I will argue that we need two not one technically sound midfielders if we are to significantly improve the quality of our football. Ramires simply isn't gonna cut it as a first option in midfield against packed defences which accounts for roughly 80 percent of the teams we face. Lampard isn't a CM and he's old, Jose doesn't rate mikel highly enough to be a first option and Essien is well not good enough anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Oh I know but he just seems no where near the world class bracket yet and in these type of money are paid for those players, if a decent mid like Matic is £20m then what for the likes of Yaya,Gundogan,Khedira,Alonso...etc? A lot that is for sure. So I am not saying he is a bad signing, just saying the amount we are paying is sort of overpriced.Btw just found out he is 26 so basically at the peak now, you are right no more potential. Still maybe he isn't that much talked about because he plays in Portugal, but then so did Moutinho, Falcao, Hulk...etc at 1 point.mere "decent mids" don't win the portuguese player of the year award ahead of the likes of Moutinho,Jackson martinez,rodriguez,Mangala et al and he's valued accordingly at £37 million by benfica,who have more information and knowledge to make accurate judgement regarding his value and how good he is. You make it seem like we are signing freaking gareth barry here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 We'll know from Matic's reaction after the game. If he starts waving goodbye then it'll be obvious, but if he doesn't...It kind of adds up when you think about it though:- We're especially stuck for CMs at the moment as Luiz is playing there - Mourinho won't want to play all of his main CBs in every game for fear of injury.- We bid £12m+ for Guarin which was rejected - Mourinho has since said he's not interested in him.- KDB looks like he's on his way - which frees up some extra funds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 mere "decent mids" don't win the portuguese player of the year award ahead of the likes of Moutinho,Jackson martinez,rodriguez,Mangala et al and he's valued accordingly at £37 million by benfica,who have more information and knowledge to make accurate judgement regarding his value and how good he is. You make it seem like we are signing freaking gareth barry here.Who is known to have forced other clubs to overpay for their players. But yeah I suppose you are right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 so u just compared heskey's striking prowess to DL's defensive prowess. seems legit!!!No I just wanted to show that managers are not flawless immortals that never make questionable decisions. fergie, who's arguably the greatest manager of all time, decided Pogba wasn't good enough when he played a defender, Rapheal, ahead of him in midfield in a game where they were short of options in midfield which eventually proved to be a terrible decision. so even the best managers get it wrong sometimes is the point I'm trying to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 If he is valued at 40mio, why would they sell him for 20-30? They sold Witsel for 40 and they said that Matic is even better than Witsel. Unless we have some release clause or Benfica is in huge financial trouble, they simply wont sell him for cut price.I hope we buy him though, summer should be priority for striker, Lb and possibly CB, I doubt we will look for CM too, 3 top players are just too much in summer...one problem needs to be solved in january. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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