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Youtube is possibly the second worst scouting tool known to man.

Fair enough, we all know that Willian is a good player, but by putting a few clips together you can make an average player look world class. You can also make a player who has had a decent game, look like he has had a great game.

Here is a prime example, my team, Dundee United have a very good player, Gary Mackay-Steven. This video makes him look like a world beater, when realistically he is just a stand out SPL player who could possibly at best end up at middle of the road Prem team at best.

lol

Nothing in this video make him look like a world beater. By the way, in both matches against Chelsea last year, Willian played better than Mata, Hazard or Oscar,

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I don't get this at all. We had too many attacking midfielders before and we spend big to get another? And an insanely overpriced one at that. Chelsea have now spent something like 150m pounds on attacking midfielders in the last three years. Something else is going to happen or this makes no sense at all.

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I just don't get it... Stupid transfer... We really don't need him... :blink: Mata, Hazard, De Bruyne, Oscar, Moses and Schurlle were enough quality and enough quantity for 3 attacking midfielders... And also Lampard and Ramires are capable to play this position...

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I just don't get it... Stupid transfer... We really don't need him... :blink: Mata, Hazard, De Bruyne, Oscar, Moses and Schurlle were enough quality and enough quantity for 3 attacking midfielders... And also Lampard and Ramires are capable to play this position...

You can never, ever have too much quality.

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lol

Nothing in this video make him look like a world beater. By the way, in both matches against Chelsea last year, Willian played better than Mata, Hazard or Oscar,

Well you obviously totally overlooked the whole point of my post. I clearly stated that we all know that Willian was a great player, my point was, using youtube to see how good a player is can be very deceiving. Sure I exaggerated about GMS, but the point is that video makes him look better than he is.

For example, that video I posted doesn't show that GMS sometimes tries to do his fancy skills and tricks when a pass is a better option. It doesn't show that he can go quiet and be marked out of games effectively by opposition if they double up on him. Youtube videos will always focus on the good and never give a full representation of a player.

Another example being, on a Dundee United forum I post on, after the announcement that Kenny Miller had retired from International football, someone posted a video showing his highlights in a Scotland shirt saying "He'll be sadly missed, thanks for the memories." Another poster then piped up, with a valid point, "Someon should make a video of all the sitters that he's missed." No doubt Kenny Miller was a great servant for Scotland but at times he was a truly awful player and the video posted didn't highlight that.

I'll say it again, so that I'm not misunderstood (again) Willian is a fantastic player, but watching a 6 minute video on youtube is definitely not the way I would form my opinion on how good he is or isn't.

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maybe somebody on there way out aswell.and i still don`t want Rooney

Regarding your sig you forgot to add

Last Away defeat: Chelsea

and you can also add

Last UCL defeat: Mourinho

Reading some of the posts here have convinced me that he would be a good signing but ofc addressing the strikers' issue is more important.

Unfortunately, this would mean the end of Moses (and possibly Marin might not get much of a chance to play for us either)

btw from what I'm reading some sources say this guy is ambipedal, is that true? Cos SB Nation says he's right footed and likes to cut inside and (I believed he played in that position in our game in Donetsk)

so if that's true, he'll be forced to play on the RW since Hazard occupies the left.

So if he plays on the right will he be forced to cut in on his left?

Maybe we'll be seeing more of Oscar as a CM (against the lower level teams)?

An Oscar -- Ramires midfield partnership would be interesting to watch.

that would be exciting! Ofc we have to think about Van Ginkel too.

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He'll be the first choice RW, without a doubt imo.

Hazard is the first choice LW obviously.

Mata and Oscar will play through the middle.

KDB and Schurrle to provide cover for LW and RW.

The biggest battle is undoubtedly for the CAM position as it's just hard to imagine one of Oscar and Mata to be left out of the starting lineup. Especially Mata.

Willian - Mata - Hazard

ST

Willian - Oscar - Hazard

ST

Hazard on LW, Hazard lite on RW. Very exciting that's for sure.

but in most of the videos I saw of him, he plays on the left flank, cutting to the middle more like hazard do .... I'm a bit confused here

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I don't get this at all. We had too many attacking midfielders before and we spend big to get another? And an insanely overpriced one at that. Chelsea have now spent something like 150m pounds on attacking midfielders in the last three years. Something else is going to happen or this makes no sense at all.

Regardless of whether this makes sense or not (for me it's "not) or whether the price is too much or not (and for it is) we have to come to terms with the fact that the deal is done. Jose would not have spoken about it in his PC if everything hasn't already been decided.

So I guess, just like we did with Schurrle, it's time to put away the criticism of what's wrong about this deal and support the lad when he puts on a Chelsea shirt.

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love this: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/aug/23/tottenham-chelsea-willian?CMP=twt_gu

it's not such a stupid move, gives us quality backup-something we lacked last season, in each of the the positions off the striker- Hazard/KDB Mata/Oscar Willian/Schrulle. Little harsh on Moses but it was always just a matter of time before he moved on.

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