Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I have bought both new shirts this season, i think i have contributed to CFC, and i expect a better signing. Get this guy on loan, with an option to buy. Safer choice. If he doesnt fit in, let him go....or else we'll be stuck with him forever, a la kalou!And why would Shaktar agree to this?What happened to us as a club? How can EVERY good player want to play for Barca or real.Barcelona and Madrid have always had a bigger global appeal than us. It's no surprise that kids growing up in foreign countries dream of playing for them. Some of you need a little more objectivity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rising Sun 711 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Judge him after he plays for us.Thats the scary part!Really dont want another Kalou type of situation. Sign someone who can run, do a trick or two, and has done decently for previous team, considered a talent.,,,then he does a kalou....doesnt develop and stays foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teignman 441 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Get this guy on loan, with an option to buy. Safer choice. If he doesnt fit in, let him go....or else we'll be stuck with him forever, a la kalou!They (Shakhtar) aren't going to loan an integral part of their team just to let us take him for a test drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rising Sun 711 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 And why would Shaktar agree to this?option to buy, without a set value.If this guy comes and goes goal crazy and becomes an integral part of our team, his value will go up from presently about 20 mill, to 25-26 mill.They make more money. If he doesnt fit in, he still fits in to shaktars plans....Win Win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Abramovich 175 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 And why would Shaktar agree to this?I have to agree, Chelsea fans can be very arrogant sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teignman 441 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Alright, I'll just come out and say it: I'm not a big fan of this signing, or potential signing as it were. We're likely to pay too much for a player that quite possibly is not PL ready. I've watched Willian in the CL for a couple years now, a small sample size I'll admit, and I've seen him play a couple blinders. Overall though, he seems to have great flair, but not the substance to match. Like I said, this is only a small sample size and probably doesn't tell the whole story. I don't think this is the worst possible signing, but just not a fan of it. There is one area where I have not questioned AVB once, and that is his ability to evaluate talent in the transfer market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 People seem to be forgetting that Willian was part of a Shakhtar Donetsk side that not only won a Europa League (UEFA Cup as it was called in 2009) but also got to a Champions League quarter final... yes they lost to Barcelona during that year, but they did play an untouchable Barcelona side, and had they have not played them and played someone else, they would have probably made it a lot further than that... possibly a semi-final!Willian will settle in well with us. We have Ramires and Luiz whom he knows really well... it's all about the player's desire to play for us as well.. I like to hear about players taking an admiration for us and wanting to be part of the club's future. Players like Essien showed that desire when he first joined the club, and he's turned into a cult hero to some Chelsea fans... I'm excited about this signing because hopefully, it will be the answer to all of our players and he will help to improve our creativity! If Willian is hungry to play for us, then we should be hungry to take him on... that's the way I see it!I want us to sign Eden Hazard as much as the next person does.. but I doubt it'll happen for obvious reasons.. one of them being, that Lille will probably hold out for as much money for him as possible, meaning that we will be priced out of a move.. for example, I would see us trying to bid around £29m for him, when Lille are holding out for something ridiculous like £40m. The other reason, is that come the summer, if Hazard is STILL at Lille, we won't be the front-runners to sign him because Real Madrid would probably outmuscle us, and if they're not interested in him, we've still got Barcelona and Man City to contest with as well..... the third reason, and probably the most crucial one, is his feeling... there's a difference... Willian is keen to join us... Hazard hasn't even specified anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rising Sun 711 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I have to agree, Chelsea fans can be very arrogant sometimes.Shakhtar might have agreed to it as it would have possibly increased their player's value by alot, which means they make more money. Plus Chelsea could have given some player to Shakhtar on loan/makeweight if wanted.Its not arrogance in any way. It was arrogance when we kept bidding for Modric even though Levy said he wasnt for sale, starting at 20 mill and ending up at 45 mill. That was arrogance. Mine was merely a sitiational assumption and suggestion to lower risk to the least possible amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Shakhtar might have agreed to it as it would have possibly increased their player's value by alot, which means they make more money. Plus Chelsea could have given some player to Shakhtar on loan/makeweight if wanted.Its not arrogance in any way. It was arrogance when we kept bidding for Modric even though Levy said he wasnt for sale, starting at 20 mill and ending up at 45 mill. That was arrogance. Mine was merely a sitiational assumption and suggestion to lower risk to the least possible amount.No, it wouldn't. If Willian comes to us for half a season, becomes a fan favourite and scores goals, he's going to want to stay at Chelsea, he will refuse to go back to Shaktar and that puts Chelsea at an advantage. On the other hand, Willian could be terrible for us, and we won't want him to join permanently at the end of the loan. Therefore, Shaktar would have lost arguably one of their best players for half a season for no reason whatsoever. It doesn't make any sense from their point of view. Of course it would help Chelsea, but realistically, its never going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Judge him after he plays for us.Will be too late... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Have i missed something have we had a bid accepted?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I think he will be a descent signing.Besides Chelsea has not had great sucess in buying great named players, but those players that come from little to more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Have i missed something have we had a bid accepted??No, we're waiting on the submission of a second bid from us, which may or may not happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I like Willian i think he has bundles of potential like what Nani had when he joined Man utd. He has blistering acceleration he is also very tricky and he would add a lot to our side. He can also play behind the strikers, Mata would finally be able to play through the middle too ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Too all the people who say he is another Kalou just go outside and get fresh air please. Willian has very good ball control ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Shakhtar has said that they would take less than the asking price for Chelsea, and only Chelsea, due to our good relationship with them. And the fact that Willian is keen on the move. Source.The way Shakhtar has handled this situation is admirable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 534 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Shakhtar has said that they would take less than the asking price for Chelsea, and only Chelsea, due to our good relationship with them. And the fact that Willian is keen on the move. Source.The way Shakhtar has handled this situation is admirable.All about mates rates eh roman! I lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 We should wrap this signing up and sign Douglas Costa from Shakhtar as well both quality players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalBlues 2,817 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 'As far as I know negotiations are continuing. The €20m offered by Chelsea, I think, does not correspond to the level of this player. Accoring to information we see on the internet, for Hazard the offer is €30m to €35m. I don't think that Willian is weaker - in some aspects he is even stronger than Hazard.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Next thing you know, clubs and agents are going to quote twitter comments during negotiation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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