Melanicus 5,208 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Just a comment from YouTube:Willian? Willian is fucking terrible. I've seen him play and Willian only got PACE. He is similar to Walcott. He does not know what to do when the opposition denies space. He is a headless chicken thatο»Ώ can run very fast. Instead of focussing on an idiot like Willian we should get a creative and explosive genius like Hazard or GΓΆtze. Those are real talents. Not some overrated shitty Brazillian boy who can only run fast in the 100m.Wow, one random guy's opinion from YouTube? I'm convinced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Yes, i'm aware that you wrote the word 'just' (I can read), you don't need to enlarge it any further thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Yes, i'm aware that you wrote the word 'just' (I can read), you don't need to enlarge it any further thank you.Oh, calm down a little bit. I think your 1000th post shouldn't be this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Oh, calm down a little bit. I think your 1000th post shouldn't be this one. Too late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Phew, argument well averted there boys, thought we were nearly gonna have to break the respect thread out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Phew, argument well averted there boys, thought we were nearly gonna have to break the respect thread out there Yes, i'm aware that you wrote the word 'just' (I can read), you don't need to enlarge it any further thank you.Polite at all times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Chelsea's bid will be rejected and they'll follow it up with another. Willian will probably be a CFC player this time next week.Football Agent Football_Agent9@5:40pm - 23 Jan 12 via webNo idea who this fella is so don't be getting too many hopes up. He has over 21 thousand followers if that means anything credibiluty wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incometax 116 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 hes not even in fifa 12! how can I approve such a transfer than Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Chelsea's bid will be rejected and they'll follow it up with another. Willian will probably be a CFC player this time next week.Football Agent Football_Agent9@5:40pm - 23 Jan 12 via webNo idea who this fella is so don't be getting too many hopes up. He has over 21 thousand followers if that means anything credibiluty wisesounds likely to happen unlike the Hazard deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 So let me get this straight, a club from the ukraine are demanding Β£25m (at the very least) for this guy..How much more would Hazard cost, 10m extra? ... This is illogical, pay the extra 10-15m ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severinb 309 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 So let me get this straight, a club from the ukraine are demanding Β£25m (at the very least) for this guy..How much more would Hazard cost, 10m extra? ... This is illogical, pay the extra 10-15m ffs.Dont think the hazard deal is about money, they want to keep him until the summer and i would assume he is waiting for a bid from real!But dont get me wrong i would bid to get hazard and willian!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 So let me get this straight, a club from the ukraine are demanding Β£25m (at the very least) for this guy..How much more would Hazard cost, 10m extra? ... This is illogical, pay the extra 10-15m ffs.They paid over Β£15M for Willian as I recall. He's improved since then, I think what they're asking is pretty reasonable, regardless of the quality of their league.Hazard's transfer situation is also a lot more complicated than Willian's. Don't see any reason why we can't sign them both tbh. Zhirkov/Anelka/Malouda/Kalou/Kakuta have all left/look to be leaving, they'll need replacements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 So let me get this straight, a club from the ukraine are demanding Β£25m (at the very least) for this guy..How much more would Hazard cost, 10m extra? ... This is illogical, pay the extra 10-15m ffs.Why are you so sure that the problem is with Chelsea's judgment and not Lile's wish to keep Hazard until the summer?I belive that if our club knew we could get Hazard in 10m extra, right now in Jan, we would have go for that. Maybe we will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 So let me get this straight, a club from the ukraine are demanding Β£25m (at the very least) for this guy..How much more would Hazard cost, 10m extra? ... This is illogical, pay the extra 10-15m ffs. if its what avb wants then I'm fine with that. Rather this than Roman imposing one of his "star signings" on us. Still every chance we could end up with both tho not necessarily in this window Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Willian Borges da Silva β My EvalationPosition:Willian can play anywhere upfront. His original position was CAM or SS, but he was transformed into LM while playing in Shakhtar. Why midfielder and not a winger? Because Shakhtar plays mostly 4-2-2 formation, so they Β»wingersΒ« play a little bit deeper than ours. His current best position is LM/LAM/LW, because he can cut into his right foot. He can play as a good CAM really good, but you won't exploit his amazing pace playing him there. I think he would do all right on right side too, but that should be really in the case, if all our players are injured, because of his weak left foot.Dribbling:His dribbling ability is really impressive, but he can be big-headed sometimes and hold a ball too long or go to confidently in dribble.For FIFA fans, he would definetly have 5 star skill moves in the game.4/5Ball control:His first touch is classy, he can provide good pass even uder pressure. You will rarely see him making mistake in stopping the ball.5/5Passing:Willian is creative player. His passes on the ground and through balls are great. But I'm afraid, that his passes over the top and crosses are solid at maximum.4/5Shooting:His shooting is really inconsistent. It seems like hej ust kicks the ball and hopes for the best. Sometimes he scores, and even often he doesn't. He tries a lot with shots from distance. I think his problem lies in finishing. He is nothing special at free kicks and penalites.3/5Tackling:He sometimes returns to the defence and tries to help his team-mates, but to be fair he isn't much of tackler and physically strong. But he deserves appreciation for helping in defence too.2/5Heading:He is only 5'8'' tall, so don't expect him to jump in the air. You won't find him in penalty box, while having a corner.2/5Physical abilites:His pace, agility and acceleration is really top class, he will cause many problems for opostion's full-backs, while playing on the wing. Balance and strenght of course aren't the best, but he doesn't need this while playing in attack. His stamina is all right and he can easily handle 90 minutes of the match.4/5Mental abilites:Composed, concentrated, decisive, talented team player.4/5Price:We could have him for Β£24 million and I think that's fair price, because Shakhtar bought him for a lot money from Brasil and he's best player in Ukrainian league at the moment. Also, this signing doesn't mean that we won't move for Hazard or Lucas in summer.4/5Transfer judgement: 3,5/5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSunshine 672 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Even Β£20m is too much for him imo (we bought Mata for Β£23-24m),i don't think he is good enough to be in our starting XI.Since i can't see us buying Hazard,i rather go after Jovetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Top class analysis Artinho! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalBlues 2,817 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Apparently we've submitted a new bid, way below clause again. He's a tidy player, but Hazard is priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 if its what avb wants then I'm fine with that. Rather this than Roman imposing one of his "star signings" on us. Still every chance we could end up with both tho not necessarily in this windowNo, it's not, clearly AVB isn't being backed financially, certainly not to the extent required for a top European club. Also, Hazard is by no means a 'star signing' in the sense that Torres & Shevchenko were. So you can drop the negative connotations with the transfer fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 No, it's not, clearly AVB isn't being backed financially, certainly not to the extent required for a top European club. Also, Hazard is by no means a 'star signing' in the sense that Torres & Shevchenko were. So you can drop the negative connotations with the transfer fee.Maybe because of the UEFA financial fair play rule taking effect this season?Cause even City are not even spending this transfer window as Mancini complaints about his squad......Anyways, since we are talking about this team, I want to know if anybody knows what has become of Douglas Costa and Alex Teixeira? They where good prospect a couple of years ago. Have they failed to produce? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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