BluesChick 1,260 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 It does matter. A just punishment is extremely important for the victim's family, and it matters greatly whether she was killed intentionally or by accident. And if intentionally, then why? The victim's closest ones simply need to know for closure.The guy who killed my best friend answered most important questions with "I don't know, I don't remember, I don't I don't bla bla" in court... fucking wanker, just admit what and why you did. No real motive was established in the end, he was simply thrown into the bin leaving his family wondering wtf went down. Piece of shit.My deepest sympathies for you and your friends family. You are absolutely right, knowing even if it is an ugly truth is better than not knowing why. It helps the grieving process. I won't say the healing process, because I am not sure that is what we do when we grieve. There is healing but I don't think the pain of losing someone close to you ever completely goes away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 It does matter. A just punishment is extremely important for the victim's family, and it matters greatly whether she was killed intentionally or by accident. And if intentionally, then why? The victim's closest ones simply need to know for closure.The guy who killed my best friend answered most important questions with "I don't know, I don't remember, I don't I don't bla bla" in court... fucking wanker, just admit what and why you did. No real motive was established in the end, he was simply thrown into the bin leaving his family wondering wtf went down. Piece of shit.And in the end nothing changed. Your friend is still dead and your still angry about it. Why would motives, confessions, etc make you feel better? Even if you knew you'd have other reasons to be angry about it.Sorry for sounding blunt or insensitive (I'm not trying to make you feel bad or anything, I don't want to do that) but I know I'd be upset no matter the consequences. 25 years...50 years...what's the difference? It won't make the pain go away, just induce a sense of gratification for revenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 And in the end nothing changed. Your friend is still dead and your still angry about it. Why would motives, confessions, etc make you feel better? Even if you knew you'd have other reasons to be angry about it.Sorry for sounding blunt or insensitive (I'm not trying to make you feel bad or anything, I don't want to do that) but I know I'd be upset no matter the consequences. 25 years...50 years...what's the difference? It won't make the pain go away, just induce a sense of gratification for revenge.It doesn't make a difference on any grand scheme. In fact if we went further with this idea there is no point in life on Earth either, the universe will keep doing whatever it is doing and there is nothing we can say or do that will make a difference in that process. It's a fact that you can't bring somebody back from dead, but knowing why you can't bring somebody back, helps bring some relief and closure. It won't take away anger and misery, but it will make a difference. Why do people want to find the bodies of their loved ones who are missing but are confirmed dead, even though it won't make a damndest difference? To have proper burial for closure and to respect the memory.Knowledge is the only real power people have, obtaining it, maintaining it, dwelling on it is what conscious life is all about - the power to gain and process thoughts, emotions and knowledge. If you are content with doing and learning nothing because "it won't make a difference", then you aren't doing what is human. This is what enables human beings determine their own fates, instead of being passive bystanders to processes of nature like lifeless objects whose fates were determined the moment they came to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 It doesn't make a difference on any grand scheme. In fact if we went further with this idea there is no point in life on Earth either, the universe will keep doing whatever it is doing and there is nothing we can say or do that will make a difference in that process. It's a fact that you can't bring somebody back from dead, but knowing why you can't bring somebody back, helps bring some relief and closure. It won't take away anger and misery, but it will make a difference. Why do people want to find the bodies of their loved ones who are missing but are confirmed dead, even though it won't make a damndest difference? To have proper burial for closure and to respect the memory.Knowledge is the only real power people have, obtaining it, maintaining it, dwelling on it is what conscious life is all about - the power to gain and process thoughts, emotions and knowledge. If you are content with doing and learning nothing because "it won't make a difference", then you aren't doing what is human. This is what enables human beings determine their own fates, instead of being passive bystanders to processes of nature like lifeless objects whose fates were determined the moment they came to be.Maybe you're right...maybe you're not. The only only thing I know is that I know nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Maybe you're right...maybe you're not. The only only thing I know is that I know nothing.Maybe I'm neither, not right or wrong? Maybe you know nothing and everything at the same time? What is nothing and everything? Who were behind 9/11 attacks? Is the real Paul McCartney dead? Where is Waldo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Just watching news and latest word is that the murder was intentional. He got out of bed, put on his prosthesis, walked 7 metres and shot her through the bathroom door 4 times. He claimed to have thought that his girlfriend was in bed next to him, which isn't very believable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,147 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I am suspicious and think Pistorius is regretting the consequences of his actions now but that is only my opinion however whatever the charge is, pre-meditated or not or whatever the judge concludes, the only person who knows whether it was intentional or not is Pistorius himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit 3,176 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 How the fuck did he get bail?? He shoots a woman 4 times and walks away with a bail. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 The court have granted him Bail but just to be sure he doesn't flee they have taken his legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesChick 1,260 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 this case just keeps getting weirder and weirder… the lead detective has been charged with homicide… crazy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 this case just keeps getting weirder and weirder… the lead detective has been charged with homicide… crazy!! I know, its quickly becoming a bit farcical, which is not the idea when they are trying to get justice for the death of an innocent women... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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