Fernando Torres

[Rmpr 8,977]

Torres plays an above average game against Swindon (it wasnt even a great game), and people already ask that he becomes our main striker again...

Eto'o >>>>>> Torres

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Torres plays an above average game against Swindon (it wasnt even a great game), and people already ask that he becomes our main striker again...

Eto'o >>>>>> Torres

Well I think that's because Eto'o has played all below average games so far. And no, I don't think he played well against Swindon, I expected him to do better.

[didierforever 7,349]

Torres plays an above average game against Swindon (it wasnt even a great game), and people already ask that he becomes our main striker again...

Eto'o >>>>>> Torres

so??? i mean people are only fair in judging etoo on 3 matches and yet give torres the benefit of doubt even after 2 and a half years of crap. seems fair to me!!!

[Rmpr 8,977]

Well I think that's because Eto'o has played all below average games so far. And no, I don't think he played well against Swindon, I expected him to do better.

I know, but you gotta put things in context...

Torres had two good games. The first was against Bayern, where we played really well as a team. And the other was against Swindon, where he scored and assisted Rambo, but also missed two sitters.

Eto'o had a very good first game, although didnt score. But the Basel and Everton game, he had no chance to thrive because our team was abismal. It is impossible for us to judge Eto'o by those games, he basically only had Oscar trying to give him balls, the rest were dead.

I just cant believe people are falling for Torres yet again. Last year's pre-season I defended Nando and said he would still have one more year of my support, but now it is just stupidity to back him!

[chelseathebest 150]

I wouldn't throw him in the first 11. No way.

Although Eto'o does not play very good, I'd still put him ahead of Torres any day of the week.

[Merih 10]

I don't think Torres will start. If Eto'o struggles however I think Mourinho will be much quicker to bring him on as a sub.

He certainly helped his cause with his performance against Swindon but he also played the full 90.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I know, but you gotta put things in context...

Torres had two good games. The first was against Bayern, where we played really well as a team. And the other was against Swindon, where he scored and assisted Rambo, but also missed two sitters.

Eto'o had a very good first game, although didnt score. But the Basel and Everton game, he had no chance to thrive because our team was abismal. It is impossible for us to judge Eto'o by those games, he basically only had Oscar trying to give him balls, the rest were dead.

I just cant believe people are falling for Torres yet again. Last year's pre-season I defended Nando and said he would still have one more year of my support, but now it is just stupidity to back him!

I don't think anyone is saying that Torres is back to being the best in the world, but it's just hard to rate Eto'o ahead of him when he hasn't really put in any good performances. I'm not saying that Torres will remain our best striker, just that until Eto'o proves otherwise, Torres is, for me, the best of the worst currently.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

[tmessy 139]

I know, but you gotta put things in context...

Torres had two good games. The first was against Bayern, where we played really well as a team. And the other was against Swindon, where he scored and assisted Rambo, but also missed two sitters.

Eto'o had a very good first game, although didnt score. But the Basel and Everton game, he had no chance to thrive because our team was abismal. It is impossible for us to judge Eto'o by those games, he basically only had Oscar trying to give him balls, the rest were dead.

I just cant believe people are falling for Torres yet again. Last year's pre-season I defended Nando and said he would still have one more year of my support, but now it is just stupidity to back him!

no no no, what people are failing to miss is the "team's performance" under the strikers.

we played great against hull and bayern. and torres played a big part of those games. then he gets dropped and we drop huge points.

screw the goal tally and WHO it is against. the team simply plays better under our #9.

you cant even argue that.

[Tomo 21,733]

no no no, what people are failing to miss is the "team's performance" under the strikers.

we played great against hull and bayern. and torres played a big part of those games. then he gets dropped and we drop huge points.

screw the goal tally and WHO it is against. the team simply plays better under our #9.

you cant even argue that.

It's going to take more than a few games in two and a half years to convince me, what about Old Trafford when every time he touched the ball led to a United counter attack?

[tmessy 139]

It's going to take more than a few games in two and a half years to convince me, what about Old Trafford when every time he touched the ball led to a United counter attack?

what about everton? Fullham? Basel?

i'll take a draw any day against man u.

[Tomo 21,733]

what about everton? Fullham? Basel?

i'll take a draw any day against man u.

What about most of the games in two and a half years when his presence has been a clear hindrance? The 17 and 24 game goal droughts? 5 months without a PL goal? Sulking to the press, saying he didn't care if we win or lose?. Ironically the goal on your avatar came from him losing the ball in the dangerous area and nearly undoing 180 minutes of hardwork.

Like i said it will take more than a few semi decent games to win me over after the shit he has served all his Chelsea career.

[tmessy 139]

What about most of the games in two and a half years when his presence has been a clear hindrance? The 17 and 24 game goal droughts? 5 months without a PL goal? Sulking to the press, saying he didn't care if we win or lose?. Ironically the goal on your avatar came from him losing the ball in the dangerous area and nearly undoing 180 minutes of hardwork.

Like i said it will take more than a few semi decent games to win me over after the shit he has served all his Chelsea career.

and that is fair. so lets just take THIS YEAR. and the TEAM'S PERFORMANCE.

eto'o or torres.

not even a question.

you cannot be blind to the fact that the team plays with more fluidity when torres is in the starting XI.

[Las7 951]

and that is fair. so lets just take THIS YEAR. and the TEAM'S PERFORMANCE.

eto'o or torres.

not even a question.

you cannot be blind to the fact that the team plays with more fluidity when torres is in the starting XI.

It's what Torres fanboys say every year; than his form ends up in the gutter and we end up being where we were to begin with.

1st 14 matches for Torres - finally scores a goal against relegation bound Westham.

1st full season - starts well, gets sent off against Swansea fails to score in next 24 hours of football, ends up with only 6 goals in the League

2nd full season - starts ok, ends up with only 8 goals in the League

Since the start of the 2013 Torres has as many goals as Mikel in the League

[hjperdeath 2,226]

It's what Torres fanboys say every year; than his form ends up in the gutter and we end up being where we were to begin with.

1st 14 matches for Torres - finally scores a goal against relegation bound Westham.

1st full season - starts well, gets sent off against Swansea fails to score in next 24 hours of football, ends up with only 6 goals in the League

2nd full season - starts ok, ends up with only 8 goals in the League

Since the start of the 2013 Torres has as many goals as Mikel in the League

Pretty dissapointing such statements are made, yes he's bad, but comparing him to Mikel who scored one goal? Wow. Just sad what's happened to footballing 'fans' .

[Las7 951]

Pretty dissapointing such statements are made, yes he's bad, but comparing him to Mikel who scored one goal? Wow. Just sad what's happened to footballing 'fans' .

You are right, Mikel has been integral to us winning major trophies it's an insult to compare him to Torres who has been integral in winning a corner

I'm sorry to insult you Obi, after all you've outscored Eto'o; Torres and Ba's combined tally in the EPL this season

[hjperdeath 2,226]

You are right, Mikel has been integral to us winning major trophies it's an insult to compare him to Torres who has been integral in winning a corner

I'm sorry to insult you Obi, after all you've outscored Eto'o; Torres and Ba's combined tally in the EPL this season

The amount of sarcasm you are using isn't proving anything. I'm in no way saying that Torres is a terrific player and deserves to start ahead of Eto'o or Obi is the best CDM in the world.

But the fact that you use a statement like Since the start of the 2013 Torres has as many goals as Mikel in the League is absolutely cringe worthy.

[Las7 951]

The amount of sarcasm you are using isn't proving anything. I'm in no way saying that Torres is a terrific player and deserves to start ahead of Eto'o or Obi is the best CDM in the world.

But the fact that you use a statement like Since the start of the 2013 Torres has as many goals as Mikel in the League is absolutely cringe worthy.

Stating the truth is cringe worthy?

Torres has played 987 minutes in the EPL since the start of the year and scored ONE goal; Mikel has played 609 minutes in the EPL since the start of the year and scored ONE goal. Mikel has better minutes per goal average than Torres in the League in 2013 as well