Stress 8 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 I want to see Falcao to Chelsea. Phenomenal striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funkyflashman 187 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Just get ANY striker and dispatch FT9 as far from the Bridge as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 To be really honest.I think Klose would have been a great short term solution for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Eto'o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 So, I will made deep analysis, based on my knowledge and data I found on web to compare Cavani and Falcao, who fits our squad more.First Falcao; He is overall a better player then Cavani, for sure, give him the ball and he can score from anywhere inside penalty area. On edge, left side, right side, bicycle kick, volleys, lobs,...anything. Great penalty taker aswell. He is also deadly in air, when team mates cross to him, despite only 1,77m, he jumps higher than most of SPANISH defenders (note that in england, defenders will cover him more tight and are also stockier and stronger). He is great with both feet, can create his own chances and can bring victory to his team on any match. Stamina is great, pace is good (Cavani is faster), relatively strong for his size. Had great matches vs us, Real or Barca, regular scorer in europa league, but he still has to show his skill in CL. Last season, he scored 42 goals and made 6 assists. Now to Cavani: As he plays in Italy, he is facing stronger defences, but the defenders there are not that fast as those in Spain or even in PL. He has similar atributes as Falcao, but his shooting is not on that level (but still very good), however, he could improve much. Year younger, already played in european competitions (CL) and scored goals vs City and us. He did well in top club competition, while Falcao didnt realy inspire in CL yet. While at Atletico, everyone plays on Falcao, Napoli had 3 similar players last year; Cavani, Hamšik and Lavezzi and still Cavani scored 30+ goals. I also think that as we will play lot on Hazard and Mata as well (if Falcao comes to us, he wont be THAT important as he is in Atletico), maybe Cavani would fit better, as he played with equal players at Napoli. Perhaps he isnt as clinical finisher as Falcao is, he has other advantages. He is taller (I will explain that later) faster and has much better TEAM WORK than Falcao. As soon Falcao gets the ball, he will shoot 9/10 times. Cavani however, will pass if he sees the better chance or completely open team mate. Along 36 goals, he also had 10 assists (in CL; 5 goals, 2 assists). Im sure that vision and passing abilities are very important for striker and in comparisson to Falcao, the later is much more selfish player (but as long he scores goals, no one will complain, right?). And its not just about assists, but at Chelsea, we play double passes a lot and if we had striker who can pass back, that would be much better, specialy to open up the defences. So, Chelsea play offensive play (much similar to Napoli and passing trio of Cavani, Hamšik and Insigne, while Atletico plays on counter attacks with lot of crosses). The offensive play also forces opponent to pull back and tighten their defence. The main danger of Falcao at atletico are his fast counter attack runs and crossing from sides. Chelsea is close to neither close to Atletico style. We dont cross so much, but pass more while counters are also more third plan to our players. It would be difficult to our players to adopt crossing and counter attacking just because of the new striker. It might never work aswell. Cavani would fit more to this as he is passing a lot with Hamšik and back in time, with Lavezzi aswell. Another thing is that Cech still loves to kick the ball long into the middle of the field, like he did to give the ball to Drogba. Just because Falcao can jump high in penalty area and push the ball in the net, its completely different to catch the ball and control it in middle of 4 opponent players and then run with it towards opponent goal. He lacks height here, while Cavani is almost 8centimetres higher (1,84m), he could easily catch the ball without jumping. Also he is harder to push of the ball I guess, two facts; Italian league is physicaly stronger than spanish, and secondly his goals against us and City were based on his strenght aswell - he was strong enough to block Kompany, Lescott, Cahill, Luiz, Terry when scoring those goals. Juve, Milan and Inter also had/have world class defences and he still scored many times against them. And Milan had Thiago Silva last year, there was match where Cavani scored hattrick vs Milan. Something different than score goal vs barca who has shit defence for such top team or even us, who conceded 3 goals, scored from Falcao, but its obvious that our defence while we play Cahill-Luiz sucks and anyone better could score three goals when Luiz has bad day.I will let conclusion to you, I rate Falcao as worlds best striker ahead of Cavani, but some things question me, Falcao is very similar to younger Torres, he is not that tall despite high jumping and there is also posibility that he just couldnt scoring goals for us, we dont cross much and dont play on counters. Both would cost around 40-60mio, but I think Cavani would be still cheaper considering that Falcao is actualy scoring every game nowdays. My pick probably would be Cavani, but I wouldnt care who comes realy of these two, I just fear that Falcao could turn to be hot shot only in Spain, not in league like PL. Who knows realy...Falcao proved that he can be king in smaller club and europa league, but can he lift top club in champions league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I have solved our forward line issues. Play this man: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 He would be quite expenive and despite I like Lewandowski as player, he never realy fascinated me to be realy top striker. He scores lot of goals, but I just dont see him to be match winner. Falcao or Cavani are much more proven, they are scoring on regular basis against big teams aswell and they are pushing their teams forward, meaning that because of them, their teams play on next level. Lewan is great striker too, but he lacks premier league abilities which is based on lot of strenght and air duels. I might be wrong, but I would likely too see Falcao/Cavani for 50mio than Lewandowski for 25-30 (because we are chelsea and borussia will try to get most of the deal), specialy because Lewandowski might have some problems at start and is very unexperienced player, that means that he could burn from expectations.And as for Falcao, he is my first choice, but I wonder how will he get into our game, as we play ofensive and not counter attacking football. He is great at counters with crosses and lot of free space. In england, there will be no space.That is why I think Cavani would suit us even better, maybe he is not better than Falcao, but in england, he could turn out to be better choice. I remember his games vs City and us in CL last year, he was scoring goals by pushing defences while Napoli was attacking, Falcao scored all three goals against us from counter attacks.I have some feeling that Falcao would fail here, as he looks VERY similar player to younger Torres. Same atributes, dribbling, shooting, pace, explosivness,...I dont know, but Falcao would realy shine only with some spanish team, I I would be choosing between Falcao and Cavani, I would think twice before picking Falcao, I dont want we get another Sheva/Torres, no matter how brilliant player Falcao is right now.Lewandowski has scored goals against Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and Schalke if they aren't big clubs I don't know anything about football. He even scored a couple of goals against Bayern in the DFB Pokal final. Lewandowski in my mind is a big game player and a match winner. Though saying that I want him to stay at Dortmund because they have a good thing going for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSanti 290 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Guys, I've heard that we may bring Lukaku back in January, is that actually true or false? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Lewandowski has scored goals against Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and Schalke if they aren't big clubs I don't know anything about football. He even scored a couple of goals against Bayern in the DFB Pokal final. Lewandowski in my mind is a big game player and a match winner. Though saying that I want him to stay at Dortmund because they have a good thing going for them.Well he scored against RM, Bayern,..but he cant turn the match around if you ask me. He cant make that magical dribbling and shot in the end like Drogba did on big matches. Or Falcao doing now. Strikers goal is to score goals, so he will score them vs Rm, Bayern,... but these goals would come from any top striker. What Falcao is doing now is unbelievable. New match, new superb performance. Lewandowski for example scored goal vs Real on counter, Borrussia is team that mainly plays on counters (maybe Lewandowski wouldnt even fit us), but then he was similary good to Gotze, Reus, Smelczer, Pisczek,...Falcao vs Chelsea or Bilbao was something else. He was THE key player of every attack, of all goals. Without him, Atletico wouldnt won probably.But yes, all are world class, however there are not many big game strikers. Drogba, Falcao, Ibra are few of them. Lewandowski is not near their level, yet. Big game player to me plays in big games (usualy finals or sth) and to get to finals, you must have great team. And when you are on completely different level then all those players, you are something special. Drogba was for us, Falcao is for Atletico, Messi is for barca, Ronaldo for RM, Ibra was for Milan/PSG,...you cant say that without Lewandowski, Borussia wouldnt be great. While We wouldnt win CL without Drogba, Atletico wouldnt be so good vs us if they wouldnt have Falcao, PSG would be shit without Ibra...At some point, you are right, but Lewandowski is not big game player. Yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I have solved our forward line issues. Play this man:iva is better. also the way he is being defending, he ll be much better up the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 iva is better. also the way he is being defending, he ll be much better up the pitch.What about both? Cahill-IvaIt would be a killer attack, massive air treat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,510 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 What about both? Cahill-IvaIt would be a killer attack, massive air treatI wouldn't mind seeing Ivanovic as a striker, he's got the physique, knows how to score the odd goal. That way, Azpi can play more often at RB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 just one problem dude...What about both? Cahill-IvaIt would be a killer attack, massive air treatbig problem. that would mean luiz will have to start as a cb in every match... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 just one problem dude...big problem. that would mean luiz will have to start as a cb in every match... Not realy, because Cahill and Iva would score more goals than Luiz could receive on other half. Simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblues_03 2 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 i would like to see leandro damiao to play for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Our board has time until january or summer to bring new striker. They should discouse about price they are willing to spend for a new striker, talk to Di Matteo about his style of play and how certain strikers that are available fit to his system and then talk to some more important players in team like Hazard, Mata, Oscar,...what they think about it. Who they think it will fit most, who impressed them when he played against us and so on. I dont want decision who we bring comes from Roman who will pick Falcao for example just because he is ripping la liga now. The PL is different, Chelsea are no Atletico and if someone is best in spain, its not necessary that he will be best in England.When Falcao who was wanted by biggest clubs in europe joined Atletico, I thought he can be star in smaller club, but not big star in big club.There is lot of options along Falcao and Cavani; Jovetic, Lewandowski, Damiao,...Let he be a class player, experienced and in good form when we buy him, not with bags of potential only.Im just curious why no one mentioned Jackson Martinez yet. Guy is beast and quite cheap for now. At Porto in 11 matches, 8 goals. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ3vHARQn9Mhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHYWWPCG0qIGreat potential, he is very strong and could be next Falcao realy. Maybe even more suitable for PL. Porto has some huge talents in their lines all the time, Martinez, Rodriguez, Danilo, Alex Sandro, Moutinho, Maicon, Mangala, Otamendi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Kaka doesn't seem to be in Mourinho's plans and he wants to play. Get him in Jan, shouldn't be expensive which is a bonus (loan would be perfect), and play him up front, he can play the role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Kaka doesn't seem to be in Mourinho's plans and he wants to play. Get him in Jan, shouldn't be expensive which is a bonus, and play him up front, he can play the role.He probably would be expensive and i don't think that is the answer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 He probably would be expensive and i don't think that is the answer...Highly doubt it. This is his fourth season at the club which means his contract most likely runs out in 2014. So 1.5 years left in his contract, hasn't been a starter since Ozil's arrival, not In Mourinho's plans and his rep has gone down considerably. Of course he's not a option if Real still ask a ridiculous feeHe's not The answer but I'm only saying this as I don't see Falcao or Cavani happening at all in Jan, probably should've added that. And we really need another option up front so we need to buy/loan someone in Jan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klopfzeichen 78 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I got some names for you: Soldado, Llorente, Odemwingie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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