edetarod 2,155 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 at the moment no but the WC in in 1,5 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 at the moment no but the WC in in 1,5 yearsEhhhh.....to be perfectly honest I dont see it.I see Oscar as the #10 only for Mano's failed stint as manager. He might be it in 2018, but I see Felipao utilizing Hernanes +Ronaldinho/Kaka/Willian in the middle. A utility attacking midfielder along side a pure passer to get the ball up to Hulk,Neymar, and Fred/Fabuloso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Oscar will have to improve significantly if he wants to play any major role for Brazil in the WCWillian is just much better than him at the moment, and if he continues his current form he should be a shoe in for the #10but that's just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Oscar will have to improve significantly if he wants to play any major role for Brazil in the WCWillian is just much better than him at the moment, and if he continues his current form he should be a shoe in for the #10but that's just meThat must be just you really, because Willian is not a #10.I like when I see two people discussing what they dont know... Blueisthecolor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 #10 or notWillian plays in the same spot oscar plays which is CAM or winger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 hahah Ronaldinho is a joke at 34 yo... heck I reckon he was never as good as ppl believed he was, but for Brazil he has always flopped big time. The fact that ppl expect him to deliver now at 34 playing in brazil, a weaker league, is just crazy.Just remember Oscar was just as dominant at 20 in brazil as Ronaldinho is now. Actually Oscar did very well in Libertadores too.If Ronaldinho raises a red flag it is for Brazil, not Oscar.Ppl here have to put things into perspective: Chelsea did not sign Oscar expecting him to dominate the league at 21 in his first season in another country.He's doing fine--let him play! Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Ppl here have to put thing into perspective: Chelsea did not sign Oscar expecting him to dominate the league at 21 in his first season in another country.He's doing fine--let him play.I think he is doing OK, but ppl must give him time.Like you said, let him play! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 hahah Ronaldinho is a joke at 34 yo... heck I reckon he was never as good as ppl believed he was, but for Brazil he has always flopped big time. The fact that ppl expect him to deliver now at 34 playing in brazil, a weaker league, is just crazy.Just remember Oscar was just as dominant at 20 in brazil as Ronaldinho is now. Actually Oscar did very well in Libertadores too.If Ronaldinho raises a red flag it is for Brazil, not Oscar.Ppl here have to put things into perspective: Chelsea did not sign Oscar expecting him to dominate the league at 21 in his first season in another country.He's doing fine--let him play!I'd hardly call Ronaldinho a flop for Brazil. He wasnt the same as he was for club, but that isnt the same as a flop.Also it is insanity to say Ronaldinho wasnt as good as people thought. He was, and still is, the real deal when he isnt partying.The simple fact is felipao hasnt called him up to be played out of position, and if keeps his head on straight(and Kaka stays on the fringe) he will be the central man, and Oscar isnt good enough on the wings to play there for them.Oscar was/is Mano's man, and the new call ups(and line-up) will prove that next month. Blueisthecolor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I'd hardly call Ronaldinho a flop for Brazil. He wasnt the same as he was for club, but that isnt the same as a flop.Also it is insanity to say Ronaldinho wasnt as good as people thought. He was, and still is, the real deal when he isnt partying.Ronaldinho is one of the biggest flops Brazil ever had, what are you talking about?He had just finished to win the UCL with Barcelona and then had a shocker at Germany 2006!!!!The simple fact is felipao hasnt called him up to be played out of position, and if keeps his head on straight(and Kaka stays on the fringe) he will be the central man, and Oscar isnt good enough on the wings to play there for them.Oscar was/is Mano's man, and the new call ups(and line-up) will prove that next month.You could very well be right, but this is only you guessing. No one (not even Scolari) knows how we will play.He wont want to lose in his first match, even being against England in Wembley. He will go for a "safe" lineup, so it wont probbly be what he ultimately has in mind for Brazil. Sir Mikel OBE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Ronaldinho is one of the biggest flops Brazil ever had, what are you talking about?He just finished to win the UCL with Barcelona and had a shocker at Germany 2006!!!!You could very well be right, but this is only you guessing. No one (not even Scolari) knows how we will play.He wont want to lose in his first match, even being against England in Wembley. He will go for a "safe" lineup, so it wont probbly be what he ultimately has in mind for Brazil.I think 2006 was more fatigue than anything else. The amount of football he played caught up to him, and it showed. I will agree it was a terrible tournament though.The idea that Ronaldinho would be a part of even a safe lineup has to bode well for his chances as long as he keeps his nose clean. I do think Hernanes will get a midfield spot due to his utility. Who gets the playmaking role will be a toss, but I feel it is simply Ronaldinho's to lose if Kaka is out the picture. Rmpr and Blueisthecolor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I think 2006 was more fatigue than anything else. The amount of football he played caught up to him, and it showed. I will agree it was a terrible tournament though.I agree, but you would only understand if you were Brazilian. We have an insane feeling towards the WC, we want to win it everytime and for most of the public not getting into the semi-finals is a failure. Take Dunga as an example, he had 4 amazing years (won everything) and because of one shit half against Netherlands, everyone makes him a villain.In 2006 we had a even bigger expectation. We had an amazing team on paper and we were playing a very sexy football. But if you do prepare well, you will lose. We were doing so great that players thought the cup was already ours. Mainly because of this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkrBXU0P1U8The idea that Ronaldinho would be a part of even a safe lineup has to bode well for his chances as long as he keeps his nose clean. I do think Hernanes will get a midfield spot due to his utility. Who gets the playmaking role will be a toss, but I feel it is simply Ronaldinho's to lose if Kaka is out the picture.Hernanes has more fame in Europe than in Brazil (dont ask me why). Since we dont have Thiago Silva, this is my prediction:Julio CesarDani Alves - Dante - David Luiz - MarceloPaulinho - RamiresOscar - RonaldinhoLuis Fabiano - NeymarFor 2014:Julio CesarDani Alves - Thiago Silva - Dante - MarceloDavid Luiz - PaulinhoLucas - Oscar - NeymarFredI seriously think Oscar has a safe place in Brazil starting lineup. You have no idea what it means to have a magical performance (like Juve) against Argentina twice. Dion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I agree, but you would only understand if you were Brazilian. We have an insane feeling towards the WC, we want to win it everytime and for most of the public not getting into the semi-finals is a failure. Take Dunga as an example, he had 4 amazing years (won everything) and because of one shit half against Netherlands, everyone makes him a villain.In 2006 we had a even bigger expectation. We had an amazing team on paper and we were playing a very sexy football. But if you do prepare well, you will lose. We were doing so great that players thought the cup was already ours. Mainly because of this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkrBXU0P1U8Hernanes has more fame in Europe than in Brazil (dont ask me why). Since we dont have Thiago Silva, this is my prediction:Julio CesarDani Alves - Dante - David Luiz - MarceloPaulinho - RamiresOscar - RonaldinhoLuis Fabiano - NeymarFor 2014:Julio CesarDani Alves - Thiago Silva - Dante - MarceloDavid Luiz - PaulinhoLucas - Oscar - NeymarFredI seriously think Oscar has a safe place in Brazil starting lineup. You have no idea what it means to have a magical performance (like Juve) against Argentina twice.But Dunga's main problem was the press. He turned media against him and it gave him a bad name with general public, especially after we lost to Netherlands. Honestly, I think he did an amazing job.About Hernanes, I think he's very well known in Brazil, if I'm not mistaken he was something like the best midfielder in brazilian league for two years in a row. But you know, ppl forget quickly how good players are, so he's a bit underestimated nowadays. Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 534 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 In th Olympics where he was amazing, he did play in a 4:3:3 didn't he with hulk Neymar and daimaio up top, he was amazing therr kinda like watching frank in the 4;3;3 Mourinho days Dion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Did alright today, he will be very important for us now with Eden out, hopefully he can perform well. Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Scored a nice goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5354 204 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 he and marin gotta grab their chances while hazard is out for a break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Should have scored the 3rd one that would have put the game to the bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 He never scores 1 v 1 chances/tap-ins but only 30-35 yard goals, the opposite of Hernandez.Had he converted the chances he got, we would have won 3/4-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,572 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 He never scores 1 v 1 chances/tap-ins but only 30-35 yard goals, the opposite of Hernandez.Had he converted the chances he got, we would have won 3/4-0.Late Bid for Chico, anyone?haha... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 As admirable it was that Oscar did not go down when a Newcastle tried to tackle him in the box today, a part of me is fuming that he didn't do so. Could have won us penalty(ies) to help us win the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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