Dion 2,476 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Well, I'm agreeing with you more than anything.Of course we can't expect everyone to watch every single Premiership game week-in week-out. Obviously, we depend on the media a lot but people shouldn't base their opinions only on what the media says. If you can't watch a lot of games, then you could at least listen to what the media has to say and then try to watch the odd game.For example, I maybe watch 5 Bundesliga games every year, but I still know that Bastian Schweinsteiger is a fantastic player and that Mario Gotze is a great talent.The English media is extremely biased. I could be wrong but the football media here seems a lot more biased than in Spain, Germany and Italy. It's just something we have to live with.You should see brazilian media! HAHAHAHAHA. Romper can explain it to you for now, I'm late for class. See you guys later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Lucas wasn't. Paulinho was about on par, so was Ronaldinho and Bernard. Danilo was close but below. Barcos wasn't by that time. Vagner Love wasn't. Zé Roberto wasn't. Seedorf wasn't. Ralf wasn't. I won't comment on Fred because I dislike him very much so I'm biased about him. The ones who were above him FOR SURE were only Neymar and Cavalieri.Few people knew Oscar because São Paulo was benching him for no reason. I'm a Sao Paulo fan and we were pissed because Oscar would be played only in the last 20 minutes of the games even though he always made an impact.You are overrating the guy, to be fair. In Libertadores Oscar barely played a good football, Internacional did not win Gauchão, in 2011 Oscar wasnt considered one of the best midfielders in Brasileirão (they were Ronaldinho and Montillo), so I dont even know why you are talking this kind of thing.Oscar was never considered a top 5 in Brazil, untill that game against Argentina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitee 12 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 oscar go back in your shit championship and chelsea is too big for you. you dream a lot too much kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The same commentators that were saying Romeu everytime Hazard got the ball on globoesporte.com. LMAOSo you watch european football in globoesporte.com, well...I heard the same thing about Oscar in Fox Sports and ESPN, and even people who are really good, like PVC, are way too biased about Oscar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Henrique 9,133 Posted January 17, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted January 17, 2013 oscar go back in your shit championship and chelsea is too big for you. you dream a lot too much kidDude, get out of here. Leave this forum for good. OneMoSalah, TorontoChelsea, Blueisthecolor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 'Mata and Hazard and Oscar and Hazard'? Do we have another Eden Hazard that I don't know about or is Thorgan back? NO!Mata with Hazard works and Oscar with Hazard works. Mata + Hazad + Oscar, doesnt...That is what I meant, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 NO!Mata with Hazard works and Oscar with Hazard works. Mata + Hazad + Oscar, doesnt...That is what I meant, lol.Ah I see!Use those commas for god's sake! Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitee 12 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Dude, get out of here. Leave this forum for good.i like you lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 oscar go back in your shit championship and chelsea is too big for you. you dream a lot too much kidWhy do you hate oscar so much... He is only 21 has a lot of potential and has players ahead of him so isn't starting regularly yet. And "chelsea is too big for him"... If that is true, so are half of the players we have on our team. Its also his first season in the prem. Not everyone can light it up right away. Saying he needs to go back to a shit championship and chelsea is too big to a 21 year old is crazy... OneMoSalah, Henrique, Rmpr and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Why do you hate oscar so much... He is only 21 has a lot of potential and has players ahead of him so isn't starting regularly yet. And "chelsea is too big for him"... If that is true, so are half of the players we have on our team. Its also his first season in the prem. Not everyone can light it up right away. Saying he needs to go back to a shit championship and chelsea is too big to a 21 year old is crazy...Don't feed the troll mate! Hutcho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Don't feed the troll mate! Very true, my apologies... I think Oscar pissed in his cornflakes or something. Dion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 LMAOSo you watch european football in globoesporte.com, well...I heard the same thing about Oscar in Fox Sports and ESPN, and even people who are really good, like PVC, are way too biased about Oscar.I've watched it once. I was away from home so I didn't have much of a choice, but I'm never ever doing it again ps: my teacher is talking about her personal life so I might aswell take care of mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 LMAOSo you watch european football in globoesporte.com, well...I heard the same thing about Oscar in Fox Sports and ESPN, and even people who are really good, like PVC, are way too biased naive about Oscar.True, but I fixed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 You are overrating the guy, to be fair. In Libertadores Oscar barely played a good football, Internacional did not win Gauchão, in 2011 Oscar wasnt considered one of the best midfielders in Brasileirão (they were Ronaldinho and Montillo), so I dont even know why you are talking this kind of thing.Oscar was never considered a top 5 in Brazil, untill that game against Argentina.Dude, Oscar had many judicial/legal problems during that period. He was disallowed to play several matches. It was a tough year for him.Besides, he was playing for Internacional. You know brazilian media tends to 'forget' clubs that are not from São Paulo or Rio de Janeiro. You know if he was playing for SPFC, Corinthians or Flamengo he'd be a major player in the news. Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 You are overrating the guy, to be fair. In Libertadores Oscar barely played a good football, Internacional did not win Gauchão, in 2011 Oscar wasnt considered one of the best midfielders in Brasileirão (they were Ronaldinho and Montillo), so I dont even know why you are talking this kind of thing.Oscar was never considered a top 5 in Brazil, untill that game against Argentina.Oscar was only consired a top5 by the general public after Argentina (that is true), but he was always the "gem" of Sao Paulo.You might not know this, but Muricy used to miss a few trainning sessions only to travel to Cotia and have a close look on how things were going with Oscar. Dion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitee 12 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Why do you hate oscar so much... He is only 21 has a lot of potential and has players ahead of him so isn't starting regularly yet. And "chelsea is too big for him"... If that is true, so are half of the players we have on our team. Its also his first season in the prem. Not everyone can light it up right away. Saying he needs to go back to a shit championship and chelsea is too big to a 21 year old is crazy...yes he's only 21 i'm agree but i think he has potential to play by example in france or a smaller championship.did you even seen his performances. he has missed all his season. i hope he will do better in 2 ,3 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Dude, Oscar had many judicial/legal problems during that period. He was disallowed to play several matches. It was a tough year for him.Besides, he was playing for Internacional. You know brazilian media tends to 'forget' clubs that are not from São Paulo or Rio de Janeiro. You know if he was playing for SPFC, Corinthians or Flamengo he'd be a major player in the news.I said he is overrated. It only means tha he is not as good as people think he is. It does not mean he is a bad player. He is good, and have potential, but people are saying: e team with Hazard, Oscar and Mata is supposed to be the best in the league. Thats not right. Hazard and Oscar are both overrated, but at least the belgian is ready for a role in a team like Chelsea, I mean, he is not even close of being as good as belgian fans believe, but at the end of the day he is scoring goals and giving a lot of assists, Oscar instead makes the midfield unbalaced. Rmpr and Dion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I said he is overrated. It only means tha he is not as good as people think he is. It does not mean he is a bad player. He is good, and have potential, but people are saying: e team with Hazard, Oscar and Mata is supposed to be the best in the league.Thats not right. Hazard and Oscar are both overrated, but at least the belgian is ready for a role in a team like Chelsea, I mean, he is not even close of being as good as belgian fans believe, but at the end of the day he is scoring goals and giving a lot of assists, Oscar instead makes the midfield unbalaced.I agree with that, but I think he's being misused and that contributes to the feeling you get. Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I said he is overrated. It only means tha he is not as good as people think he is. It does not mean he is a bad player. He is good, and have potential, but people are saying: e team with Hazard, Oscar and Mata is supposed to be the best in the league.Thats not right. Hazard and Oscar are both overrated, but at least the belgian is ready for a role in a team like Chelsea, I mean, he is not even close of being as good as belgian fans believe, but at the end of the day he is scoring goals and giving a lot of assists, Oscar instead makes the midfield unbalaced.Then why did you post you already know his future (failure, comeback to Brazil and blame the manager)? To be completely fair, I agree with that last post.All that was bothering me was that you have a very snob way of expressing your opinion. Oscar is overrrated (Brazilians are) and he is not having a good season (far from it). However, the kid is amazing and he has the potential to be as good as Mata (which is incredible).What I am asking is that we play him in his natural position, we cant ask much from him if he is playing as a winger. It is like asking Mikel to play as CB and then criticizing the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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