The Official Real Madrid Thread

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Im back now, i made a video on the man..

He's my hero in a way, and i admire him overall for many reasons.

Id rather not talk about stonehenge era managers when talking about greats under a certain context, i see it from a realistic point, theres no way the managers and coaches from back then would know as much as the top class managers of today , but thats only one facet of the puzzle. It makes sense really.

I would never take a borg,laver,mcenroe, over a nadal, federer, djokovic, you can compare their legacy but not their ability, the present and future will always succeed to be better.

Just how id never take real madrid 1950's over real madrid 2012.

Things change, and generally for the better.

@ ollie, i couldnt care l less for the previous topic,as i had said everything i needed and i doubt anything of worth would be said from anyone afterwards regarding that topic.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Regadring today's madridista's performances, i thought arbeloa,ramos,casillas,alonso all did pretty well, alonso dissapointed me for as long as i can remember with his penalty, hes my favorite player though and if i would to ever get my wish granted to magically play like a player, it would be like him.

Coentrao and pepe also did well, and i didnt think ronaldo did BAD, or HORRIBLY, until the very end where he didnt step up, what a shame.

I want germany to win the euro now, they have the tools to do so. Lets go mesut.

Ronaldo wanted to take the last penalty and get the headlines, he put his trust on his team mates and they failed him, but if i was coach i would have known that starting with a bang would help greatly.

I cant believe how unprepared so many top teams look when taking penalties including real madrid this seasonm i would have thought they could have done more to avoid sending balls into earth's orbit (ramos).

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Respect for sergio, i have always respected him and hes one of my favorite players ever, but today, he redeemed him self in a way, for many madrid fans, including me.

http://www.marca.com/2012/06/27/futbol/eurocopa_2012/espana/1340833070.html put it in translator if you care to read.

Hala Ramos.

[Justin_3d 1,140]

He is too dam good, but David Luiz is still the best!

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

He is too dam good, but David Luiz is still the best!

Question , im interested in how you see this... judging on a player like ramos, or luiz, how many more years would you say that a defender of that class and quality has in " the top quality zone" what do you think is the age where the significant drop for defenders of that class is?

[Justin_3d 1,140]

Question , im interested in how you see this... judging on a player like ramos, or luiz, how many more years would you say that a defender of that class and quality has in " the top quality zone" what do you think is the age where the significant drop for defenders of that class is?

Maldini, Nesta, Terry, Vidic, Ricardo etc etc.

Defenders last longer then your avg Mid/forward

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Maldini, Nesta, Terry, Vidic, Ricardo etc etc.

Defenders last longer then your avg Mid/forward

Puyol is still formidable even at his age, i can say i expect 5-6 more years of top notch ramos ownage and prowess, we will see what happens after.

[Spike 12,049]

Puyol's problems is his health he can has trouble staying fit these days. Anyway, he is much better than that tripe that is Gerard Pique. He is a good CB, no arguing that but people act as if he is in the same calibre as John Terry, Ricardo Carvalho, Nemanja Vidic and Thiago Silva (just to name a few). He is also overpowered on FIFA and Football Manager. He had a poor season, but maybe he can live up to his own hype next season.

It's very sad how little admiration and adulation a lot of defenders receive. I feel the only two that have gotten what they deserve are Franz Beckenbauer and Fabio Cannavaro.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Puyol's problems is his health he can has trouble staying fit these days. Anyway, he is much better than that tripe that is Gerard Pique. He is a good CB, no arguing that but people act as if he is in the same calibre as John Terry, Ricardo Carvalho, Nemanja Vidic and Thiago Silva (just to name a few). He is also overpowered on FIFA and Football Manager. He had a poor season, but maybe he can live up to his own hype next season.

It's very sad how little admiration and adulation a lot of defenders receive. I feel the only two that have gotten what they deserve are Franz Beckenbauer and Fabio Cannavaro.

Fabio cannavarro is actually thought of as a joke by many italian fans them selves, and fans overall as they condemn his victory of the balon d or.

For me maldini is the defender with the best history in the game, what a titan.

Pique is actually very good i wont get into details but dont take him too lightly. What i can tell you though is that carvalho is one of my favorite defenders ever but that running style he has, is far too how should i put it.. eccentric...

for anyone that is bored, here are some videos which might leave you astonished with the quality of our wonder kid, varane, and the hero him self, mr ramos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaGbydDe4VM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjKlNO4Jmwg

[Spike 12,049]

Fabio cannavarro is actually thought of as a joke by many italian fans them selves, and fans overall as they condemn his victory of the balon d or.

For me maldini is the defender with the best history in the game, what a titan.

Pique is actually very good i wont get into details but dont take him too lightly. What i can tell you though is that carvalho is one of my favorite defenders ever but that running style he has, is far too how should i put it.. eccentric...

Hmmm, most Italian fans I've met quite like Cannavaro, I haven't met too many that disregard his achievements. I guess I look up to him because I'm the same height (175cm) which is very small for a CB.

Maldini was fantastic, but he goes hand in hand with Baresi. Maldini was better but you can't not mention Franco Baresi.

Pique had a bad season, a terrible one, especially when compared to how well Puyol played. Carvalho is also a favourite of mine, his years at Chelsea were pure gold. He was a bit over the hill when he signed for Madrid, but he was no means terrible.

[Predator 114]

It's very sad how little admiration and adulation a lot of defenders receive. I feel the only two that have gotten what they deserve are Franz Beckenbauer and Fabio Cannavaro.

Completely agree

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

I was watching a video on youtube comparing mourinho vs guardiola, the poster posted a "dream formation" of recurring stars from mourinho's teams..rate this team as it is identical as posted by the poster..

@ prime each and every one of them by the way.

----------Casillas-------------

Maicon-Carvalho-Lucio-Cole

Robben-Alonso-Sneijder-Ronaldo

--------Drogba-----Eto'o

[Spike 12,049]

I was watching a video on youtube comparing mourinho vs guardiola, the poster posted a "dream formation" of recurring stars from mourinho's teams..rate this team as it is identical as posted by the poster..

@ prime each and every one of them by the way.

----------Casillas-------------

Maicon-Carvalho-Lucio-Cole

Robben-Alonso-Sneijder-Ronaldo

--------Drogba-----Eto'o

Rather than go for the very best players in each position like yourself, I'm going to go for something I think would be more functional. Just my opinion. My teams has less stars and is much more defensive in nature...

Too many players I have left out like: Ferreira, Essien, Ballack, Alonso, Casillas, Lucio, Samuel, Maicon, C.Ronaldo, Deco, Sneijder, Robben, Ozil, Ramos, Cudicini, Ceasa among others.

Drogba

Eto'o - Lampard - J.Cole

Cambiasso - Makélélé

A.Cole - Terry - Carvalho - Zanetti

Čech

[capriccioso 2,545]

Rather than go for the very best players in each position like yourself, I'm going to go for something I think would be more functional. Just my opinion. My teams has less stars and is much more defensive in nature...

Too many players I have left out like: Ferreira, Essien, Ballack, Alonso, Casillas, Lucio, Samuel, Maicon, C.Ronaldo, Deco, Sneijder, Robben, Ozil, Ramos, Cudicini, Ceasa among others.

Drogba

Eto'o - Lampard - J.Cole

Cambiasso - Makélélé

A.Cole - Terry - Carvalho - Zanetti

Čech

I think that would be his dream team. Except knowing him he'll prefer Pandev on the wing to Eto'o.

[Spike 12,049]

I think that would be his dream team. Except knowing him he'll prefer Pandev on the wing to Eto'o.

Eto'o was pretty important on the LW during the Treble season. The team is full of workhorses, even Joe Cole ran his socks off for Mourinho.

Silly me, I've forgotton Milito! The most important player during that Treble season.

[capriccioso 2,545]

Milito on the wing

And I think he might just, just prefer Paulo Ferreira to Zanetti.

[Leif 6,006]

Rather than go for the very best players in each position like yourself, I'm going to go for something I think would be more functional. Just my opinion. My teams has less stars and is much more defensive in nature...

Too many players I have left out like: Ferreira, Essien, Ballack, Alonso, Casillas, Lucio, Samuel, Maicon, C.Ronaldo, Deco, Sneijder, Robben, Ozil, Ramos, Cudicini, Ceasa among others.

Drogba

Eto'o - Lampard - J.Cole

Cambiasso - Makélélé

A.Cole - Terry - Carvalho - Zanetti

Čech

I think I'm in love with that team. Good gracious.

Time to get the tissues out.

[Spike 12,049]

Milito on the wing

And I think he might just, just prefer Paulo Ferreira to Zanetti.

I picked Zanetti because he a charismatic leader that just never quits. At 37 he still runs past most 17 year olds.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Rather than go for the very best players in each position like yourself, I'm going to go for something I think would be more functional. Just my opinion. My teams has less stars and is much more defensive in nature...

Too many players I have left out like: Ferreira, Essien, Ballack, Alonso, Casillas, Lucio, Samuel, Maicon, C.Ronaldo, Deco, Sneijder, Robben, Ozil, Ramos, Cudicini, Ceasa among others.

Drogba

Eto'o - Lampard - J.Cole

Cambiasso - Makélélé

A.Cole - Terry - Carvalho - Zanetti

Čech

I have to say that, that formation looks very nice defensively, and if you compare it to his inter side its of the same breath and style, and its defensive as you have decided to valuate mourinho's defensive desires huh? I can concept, regarding his recurring positions, and what you evaluate as his desires, and let me tell you that at prime, thats a team capable of winning cl no doubt, if inter did it, that marvel could maybe dominate the planet but im not entirely convinced...

I prefer a more vibrant style of football, pressure up high, counter attack, verticality, and that midfield is far too static..you have to look at how play roles work...during tough games against barcelona, would that formation be able to go mano a mano like real madrid 11/12 has..get more shots on target than barcelona even though they have 40 percent and lower possesion..of course you could still win with that team, but things get a bit less proactive, that midfield is static, you cant really send all that too many balls, i would have put ballack in there at the very least, makalele was a dm with very little chance of going all too forward or sending any powerful balls, same with cambiasso, hes there to steal the ball, so you have little to no creation in the midfield, and on top of that makalele's arsenal has become a bit less (impressive) at the very least, since his times, nowawdays people want versatile people, not just rocks who only steal or recover the ball.

Inter had sneijder to move up fast and spray balls, as he played deeper against barcelona, how would lampard, or cole, or eto get any service, if there are two garden rocks behind them? and then when it comes to the attack..its ok, there have been better players than cole under his disposal, i havent watched him play too much at prime, but i assume he was good defensively for you to put him there? id still put robben in my team because my team wouldnt have the liability of not having support, and would be dressed in another fashion, to be powerful enough to score goals, and play its own game against a phenom like barca, like madrid, and we are still improving, and particularly young.

I have to leave quicly soon, but before i do ill post a quick team, real madrid under jose has been perfect imo, more goals than anyone, little conceded to a certain degree, hes having the best stats in his career, and madrid's, the man sure knows how to adapt. And by the way read this.

http://www.zonalmark...diola-mourinho/

mourinho's formation was good, but there were other factors that tell me, that wouldnt happen 10 out of 10 times if they faced again.

my quick formation as i leave for half the day..

Casillas

Zanetti Carvalho Lucio Cole

Ballack Alonso Sneijder

Robben Drogba Eto'o

or Casillas

Zanetti Carvalho Lucio Cole

Alonso Ballack

Robben Ozil Ronaldo

Drogba

Lampard is a great player but i have my own style, ozil has attributes that lampard doesnt, so this is why this is a more personalized idea of my dream team, but i can understand the reasoning behind yours speigel.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Question, why do we have a Real Madrid thread? (despite posting in it yesterday forgot to mention it lol) Not trying to be a bellend or anything just I dont see why we have one.... Maybe there should just be a Jose Mourinho thread.