Eden Hazard

[Rom2013 446]

Lol this is what i'm talking about with Neymar being overrated. Neymar shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Messi or C Ronaldo. Hasn't got the consistency nor the numbers.

He has 13 goals and 11 assists (CL+ League) in an attacking league and an extremely attacking oriented team and you call that incredible numbers ?

And Hazard really isn't that far from Ribery or Robben. Ribery has 13 goals 12 assists. Robben has 15 goals 12 assists.Both playing in a very attacking system. Hazard has 16 goals 7 assists playing in a more defensive oriented system and a more physical demanding league.

Not to mention that Hazard also created the most chances in all of the top 5 competitions.

Neymar is not at that level in this momentbut he is that kind of player they are. Neymar is not between the 10 best players in the world, But he wll be.

He started 19 games (half the games) in Barcelona in La Liga, in his 1st year in Europe. It's not what was expected but he is really young. For example Messi was out for months with an important injury and played a lot more than Neymar. Hazard also did it in Chelsea... he started something like more 14 games than Neymar.and nearly the same goals (without penaltys),

Neymar is clearly a player that will score more than 20 goals (I would say 30 goals) per season every season in the future,

ANd this season was in my opinion really bad from Neymar in Barcelona. But... he is special.

[haranr 485]

Hazard is a number 10 and best BEHIND the striker! FACT

[iseah100 5,612]

Hazard is a number 10 and best BEHIND the striker! FACT

I don't think you know what a fact is. Considering he's always played on the wings, that's not a fact.

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

Hazard is a number 10 and best BEHIND the striker! FACT

Rafa Benitez?

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

Neymar is not at that level in this momentbut he is that kind of player. Neymar is not between maybe the 10 best players in the world, nut he wll be.

He started 19 games (half the games) in Barcelona in La Liga, in his 1st year in Europe. It's not what was expected but he is really young. For examplo Messi was out for months with an important injury and played a lot more than Neymar. Hazard also did it in Chelsea... he started something like more 14 games than Neymar.and nearly the same goals (without penaltys),

Neymar is clearly a player that will score more than 20 goals per season every season in the future,

Maybe, maybe not. He a worldclass talent no doubt but i'm not so sure he'll reach that level. Scoring more then 20 goals isn't Messi C. Ronaldo level. Scoring 30, 40 goals is their level.

I don't think Neymar is going to reach that level as easy as you seem to think.

Yes Neymar has less games then Hazard but i could argue that that's just as much a disadvantage as an advantage. (due to fatigue)

I'd give you that one though but like i said before there's the difference in system that both players play in (Barcelona, very attacking oriented, Chelsea, defensively oriented) and the difference in leagues they play in ( Primera division, more attacking (parking the bus is considered a crime against football) Premier league very physical, most smaller teams don't care about playing beautifull football and just park the bus)

That are things that also plays a big role in how much goals and assists a player can get in a season.

[haranr 485]

I don't think you know what a fact is. Considering he's always played on the wings, that's not a fact.

Well he is best when he plays behind the striker so it is a fact.

[iseah100 5,612]

Well he is best when he plays behind the striker so it is a fact.

No. That's an opinion.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

If a player doesn't score 30 goals a season, he is not one of the world's best players, says the guys who just started watching football in the Ronaldo-Messi era. SMH at some of the comments in the last 2 pages. So predictable (from the usual suspects). Pure hilarity.

[iseah100 5,612]

If a player doesn't score 30 goals a season, he is not one of the world's best players, says the guys who just started watching football in the Ronaldo-Messi era. SMH at some of the comments in the last 2 pages. So predictable (from the usual suspects). Pure hilarity.

Me?:/

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Me?:/

Nah, of course not. But's it's just irritating how goals scored has become a barometer for a player's greatness, even when said player is not a striker. Hazard has scored 21, 14, and 17 goals respectively in the last 3 seasons and he's more of a creative winger than a goal-scoring, shoot on site winger. These are great goalscoring numbers for a winger. That's not even taking into account the creative output he brings, which is far greater than some of the names being banded about.

It's a consequence of the Ronaldo-Messi era. And of course 1 or 2 posters with their personal agendas against some of our players. (no point mentioning any names)

[Korea 734]

When Neymar has all the Fk responsibilities and is the main man, he will always surpass +30 goals a season....

Just like Bale would as well.

[Styles 9,790]

Nah, of course not. But's it's just irritating how goals scored has become a barometer for a player's greatness, even when said player is not a striker. Hazard has scored 21, 14, and 17 goals respectively in the last 3 seasons and he's more of a creative winger than a goal-scoring, shoot on site winger. These are great goalscoring numbers for a winger. That's not even taking into account the creative output he brings, which is far greater than some of the names being banded about.

It's a consequence of the Ronaldo-Messi era. And of course 1 or 2 posters with their personal agendas against some of our players. (no point mentioning any names)

Well said. If he could give us around 20 goals a season and create a good amount for his teammates - and he's capable of doing both - I would be more than happy. I don't expect him to ever explode and get Messi/C. Ronaldo numbers.

[Madmax 9,219]

Well said. If he could give us around 20 goals a season and create a good amount for his teammates - and he's capable of doing both - I would be more than happy. I don't expect him to ever explode and get Messi/C. Ronaldo numbers.

I'm salivating at the prospect of him feeding Diego Costa. Hazard created some 80+ chances in the league in 13-14, the highest across Europe (even if you take Opta/Whoscored numbers with a 20 or 30% margin based on their definition of 'chances', that's still quite a number) - now imagine Costa and acclimatised versions of Schurrle/Salah/Willian on the end of those ... tasty.

[Styles 9,790]

I'm salivating at the prospect of him feeding Diego Costa. Hazard created some 80+ chances in the league in 13-14, the highest across Europe (even if you take Opta/Whoscored numbers with a 20 or 30% margin based on their definition of 'chances', that's still quite a number) - now imagine Costa and acclimatised versions of Schurrle/Salah/Willian on the end of those ... tasty.

They really need to step up next season and share the load offensively. Oscar too. We know what we're going to get from Hazard, it's the other guys that need to turn up next season.

[Madmax 9,219]

They really need to step up next season and share the load offensively. Oscar too.

Especially Oscar. Injury, fatigue, WC - whatever the excuse(s), he was a Conference standard player for much of the season.

[ZOS 580]

RIght now Bale is also better than Hazard, he scored 21 goals without 1 penalty 2 years ago with the same age Hazard has, And he is playing for Madrid scoring decisive goals in Copa and in CHampions.

Ribery is also in another level.

FOr me Neymar is by far the best young player in the world. He needs to do a lot more in Barcelona but his talent is really clear, and he is a little younger than Hazard.

Hazard needs to do more if he wants to be one of the best players in the world.

That's just not true mate. Hazard is a better dribbler, passer of the ball and clearly have a far better vision in the final third. Bale is a better athlete.

[Shane 2,275]

That's just not true mate. Hazard is a better dribbler, passer of the ball and clearly have a far better vision in the final third. Bale is a better athlete.

and he hasn't bitten anyone yet.

[sutro 1,026]

Why do so many people say Messi/ Ronaldo/ BALE level?

What exactly has Bale done to be named in the same sentence as these 2?