Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 4 hours ago, eemanyooel said: I know our board can be pathetic but common €200m is a hell lot of fucking money not to spend on at least upcoming superstar or quality players of similar profile but still young... Leon Bailey which I believe we can sign even without selling Hazard...Fekir and Lozano as well are few among other names which are available... The issue there is that those players all have risk attached. Next upcoming superstar is all just a guess. Dembele looks more nailed on, which is why he's at Barca already, and why his price is high. Malcom, Lozano, Pulisic, Bailey, Neres, Asensio, these guys all have question marks, much like Eden when we got him. He was coveted, and he had the potential to be this good (I still think he has another level), but it wasn't a given. Dembele and Coman look like solid propositions, but they are already at big clubs. If we sold Hazard to Barcelona for 200M, how much would it cost to buy Coman, assuming we could even get him? Dembele could potentially work, because you're dealing with his club and you have something they want. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 4 hours ago, Ayioros said: Question for those who don't want to sell Hazard and block him. In average, Madrid would pay maybe +- 160-170 millions euros for Hazard. I understand some people want more but this is the reality, Madrid will not pay more for him. So next summer, Hazard will have just one year on his contract. His value will be 50 millions max at this moment. So the question is, do you think keeping Hazard just one season more worth 100 or 120 millions ? Or keep him 2 seasons worth 170 ? It's a real question, because if we block him, we don't will expect an extension contract of him. I think he's worth far more than 50M next summer. The reason Courtois' value is so low (compared to his quality) is that he's let everyone in football know that he'll only go to Madrid. There is no bidding war, no one to drive his price up. Madrid know that we're over a barrel. Take this small amount or lose him for free next summer. With Hazard, even if it's just Barcelona and Madrid that would want him, the fact that there would be multiple clubs interested will keep his price high. Of course, if he pulls this "only Madrid" shit, we're fucked again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,048 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 I honestly hope he stays, but talk of a swap for Dembele plus cash would be far more appealing than anything Madrid could offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Didn’t he have a big injury not so long ago? If that’s the case he’s worth nowhere near 150 anymore.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 19 hours ago, Sideshow Luiz said: The issue there is that those players all have risk attached. Next upcoming superstar is all just a guess. Dembele looks more nailed on, which is why he's at Barca already, and why his price is high. Malcom, Lozano, Pulisic, Bailey, Neres, Asensio, these guys all have question marks, much like Eden when we got him. He was coveted, and he had the potential to be this good (I still think he has another level), but it wasn't a given. Dembele and Coman look like solid propositions, but they are already at big clubs. If we sold Hazard to Barcelona for 200M, how much would it cost to buy Coman, assuming we could even get him? Dembele could potentially work, because you're dealing with his club and you have something they want. IMO to price Coman away from Bayern will cost nothing more than €60m provided Bayern welcomes the idea of selling him... He hasn't done anything so far in his career to warrant expensive price tag... Dembele could work but it all depends on what we want in a player assuming we sell Hazard... For me with that amount I will rather we buy both Bailey and Fekir due to Fekir creativity and slick defense splitting passes while Bailey brings directness and goal scoring quality across the wing... You can't get like for like replacement for him right now... So evaluation comes so that much quality is not lost in the team... Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hamilton said: Didn’t he have a big injury not so long ago? If that’s the case he’s worth nowhere near 150 anymore.. What did Barcelona pay last year for Dembele? Pretty sure it was somewhere around £120m (which was a reach) and he barely did anything. I think even if they offered Dembele, Chelsea should be pushing for minimum £70m on top of Dembele. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideshow Luiz 2,310 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, eemanyooel said: IMO to price Coman away from Bayern will cost nothing more than €60m provided Bayern welcomes the idea of selling him... He hasn't done anything with far in his career to warrant expensive price tag... Dembele could work but it all depends on what we want in a player assuming we sell Hazard... For me with that amount I will rather we buy both Bailey and Fekir due to Fekir creativity and slick defense splitting passes while Bailey brings directness and goal scoring quality across the wing... You can't like for like replacement for him right now... So evaluation comes so that much quality is not lost in the team... Coman COULD cost 60M is we bought him now. If we sold Hazard for 200M, the figure would go up substantially. I'm using Dembele as an example. No way he's 120M. But, he is if you sell Neymar for 200 and everyone knows it. I agree that if we sold him, it wouldn't be like for like, because there is no one. You'd have to (wisely) spend it on various areas around the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Superblue_1986 said: What did Barcelona pay last year for Dembele? Pretty sure it was somewhere around £120m (which was a reach) and he barely did anything. I think even if they offered Dembele, Chelsea should be pushing for minimum £70m on top of Dembele. €150m they payed. So if Eden is worth 225m to us then we should get at least 150m on top of Dembele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues.bridge 343 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 38 minutes ago, LAM09 said: I honestly hope he stays, but talk of a swap for Dembele plus cash would be far more appealing than anything Madrid could offer. hazard swap for dembele? I would like to try to get Dembele in a swap, but not with Hazard but Willian! Willian plus £30-35B for Dembele! a team with hazard-striker-dembele X- jorginho- kante! would be great! Sideshow Luiz and 11Drogba 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, blues.bridge said: hazard swap for dembele? I would like to try to get Dembele in a swap, but not with Hazard but Willian! Willian plus £30-35B for Dembele! a team with hazard-striker-dembele X- jorginho- kante! would be great! They are not gonna pay money on top of Willian, a straight swap is probably max we can get out of it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, blues.bridge said: hazard swap for dembele? I would like to try to get Dembele in a swap, but not with Hazard but Willian! Willian plus £30-35B for Dembele! a team with hazard-striker-dembele X- jorginho- kante! would be great! no way in hell will Barca entertain that kind of fraudulent deal.. It is the same as us wanting to sign 31yrs Higuain to bin Morata... I hope the club will not regret the transfer cos our right wing position is desperately crying out for quality... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues.bridge 343 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Hamilton said: They are not gonna pay money on top of Willian, a straight swap is probably max we can get out of it.. we pay them, not they pay us! the swap will be: Willian + 30/35 = Dembele not opposite Sideshow Luiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, blues.bridge said: we pay them, not they pay us! the swap will be: Willian + 30/35 = Dembele not opposite Oh I misread, my bad.. blues.bridge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,048 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 hazard swap for dembele? I would like to try to get Dembele in a swap, but not with Hazard but Willian! Willian plus £30-35B for Dembele! a team with hazard-striker-dembele X- jorginho- kante! would be great!I can't see Barcelona taking a 20m+ hit in less than 12 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluephoenix 1,131 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 11 hours ago, Unionjack said: I do hear that loudly. But then on the other hand I'm thinking if I was him "OK CFC dont want to sel me this season for the money they are offered. No biggie. I'll sign the new contract and take the wage hike for the year. See what its like with new boss and workmates. Try and get CFC into the CL and do our best to put on a good display. And play it by ear next simmer." Thats how I would look at it anyway. He might think "Ive had enough. I want to go somewhere I will blend in and not stand out where only 2 clubs win anything." Its not going to be the same RM thats won the CL 4 from the last 5 years without their goal machine. He needs replacing more over Eden joining them IMO True! But then maybe now is the best time, you don't have the likes of CR overshadowing you! If he joins them he would be joining them as a star and would be the new CR for them won't he? Unless ofcourse Neymar /Mbappe suddenly decides to join them in which case he will be receiving the limelight. Maybe CR to Juventus was so that they can lure the best in the world like Eden, Neymar, Mbappe?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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