David Luiz

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Vincent Kompany ? Lol :-)

Have you watched him this season? I'd rather have Luiz tbh.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

Luiz is always judged differently compared to other defenders. I don't know why is everybody so keen to make him look a terrible player, he's done very well so far and I would never change him (or any of our CB's as a matter of fact).

Yes he can frustrate sometimes, especially when the whole team plays bad but remember we all make mistakes.

[zolayes 14,489]

seems he is being lined up to be the next scapegoat if Torres leaves....perhaps even if Torres stays

[Stingray 9,441]

Hence the "lol" :-)

Have you watched him this season? I'd rather have Luiz tbh.

[Tomo 21,751]

seems he is being lined up to be the next scapegoat if Torres leaves....perhaps even if Torres stays

Torres has never been a scapegoat, infact quite the opposite.

[HRiver 1,512]

seems he is being lined up to be the next scapegoat if Torres leaves....perhaps even if Torres stays

Lmao, critcize a player and he becomes a scapegoat immediately. Why is Mata not a scapegoat? Why is Cech not a scapegoat? Why are Oscar, Hazard or Ashley Cole not scapegoats? Even if they have a bad day nobody will consider them scapegoats, because everybody knows how good they are. Cole was not at his best yesterday but we all know how good he is. Luiz, on the other hand, is a different case. He simply is not good enough. Insecure, clumsy, reckless, he makes me nervous everytime I see him on the pitch, especially against United who have brilliant strikers at their disposal.

I don't care if he was good against QPR, he was humiliated by Atletico Madrid and Falcao, he was very poor against Shakhtar too and then the United game yesterday. Three very important games. A good performance against a side which belongs to the bottom of the table doesn't make him a good defender, or good enough for this club. He has to perform against big clubs and against world class strikers, and he hasn't done that this season.

[Tomo 21,751]

@,

United (full SB debut), City (few weeks later), Levekusen (twice), Valencia (twice), Napoli (2nd leg), Benfica, Bayern, Arsenal.

Just out of the top of my head the big teams he has performed well against.

[HRiver 1,512]

@,

United (full SB debut), City (few weeks later), Levekusen (twice), Valencia (twice), Napoli (2nd leg), Benfica, Bayern, Arsenal.

Just out of the top of my head the big teams he has performed well against.

I only mentioned the times he's failed against big teams this season. He's clearly not the same Luiz, he was very good in 2010-11, and last season he definitely wasn't as bad as he's been this season.

[Tomo 21,751]

I only mentioned the times he's failed against big teams this season. He's clearly not the same Luiz, he was very good in 2010-11, and last season he definitely wasn't as bad as he's been this season.

Fair point.

His bad games however as you pointed out were against Athletico, Shacktar and yesterday, add the Naples game in it i think we have his four worst displays in a Chelsea shirt, 3 of them he was paired with Cahill (who was just as bad on those nights, if not worse).

I think the problem with Luiz is he cannot play with Cahill or vice versa, he rarely has a bad game with Terry or even Ivanovic, he still has his sloppy moments every now and again, but rarely an outright terrible game.

Cahill's the same, fine with Terry, terrible when with Luiz.

[zolayes 14,489]

Lmao, critcize a player and he becomes a scapegoat immediately. Why is Mata not a scapegoat? Why is Cech not a scapegoat? Why are Oscar, Hazard or Ashley Cole not scapegoats? Even if they have a bad day nobody will consider them scapegoats, because everybody knows how good they are. Cole was not at his best yesterday but we all know how good he is. Luiz, on the other hand, is a different case. He simply is not good enough. Insecure, clumsy, reckless, he makes me nervous everytime I see him on the pitch, especially against United who have brilliant strikers at their disposal.

I don't care if he was good against QPR, he was humiliated by Atletico Madrid and Falcao, he was very poor against Shakhtar too and then the United game yesterday. Three very important games. A good performance against a side which belongs to the bottom of the table doesn't make him a good defender, or good enough for this club. He has to perform against big clubs and against world class strikers, and he hasn't done that this season.

calm down ..I wasnt specifically meaning you ,,,you mustnt get paranoid

[HRiver 1,512]

calm down ..I wasnt specifically meaning you ,,,you mustnt get paranoid

I was calm, I just think that Luiz deserves the criticism that he receives.

[DYC. 7,542]

Have you watched him this season? I'd rather have Luiz tbh.

Come on, as if a couple of bad games changes anything. Everyone goes through a bad spell. I'd jump at the chance of signing Kompany, not that it's going to happen.

Maybe we can steal Chiellini..

[BlueJewel 56]

I thought Luiz did okay on the night, he wasn't really at fault for any of the goals conceeded including the own goal. He could have done better but I think he did okay. I was however disappointed with Cahill and how he allowed Van Persie to turn him inside out, the only logical thing he should have done there and then was to have "professionally" fouled Van Persie and taken a yellow card for the team, that yellow could have saved us two red cards, and possibly three valuable points against a potential title rival.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Come on, as if a couple of bad games changes anything. Everyone goes through a bad spell. I'd jump at the chance of signing Kompany, not that it's going to happen.

Maybe we can steal Chiellini..

I was joking because I know we can never sign Kompany. He was actually the best CB in the world last year imo, I'd jizz my pants if we signed him.

And Chiellini would never leave Juve, he is also overrated (I blame FIFA), and this coming from a Juve fan..

[DYC. 7,542]

I was joking because I know we can never sign Kompany. He was actually the best CB in the world last year imo, I'd jizz my pants if we signed him.

And Chiellini would never leave Juve, he is also overrated (I blame FIFA), and this coming from a Juve fan..

Understood.

Haha you mean FIFA the football game? I'm not even a fan of the game. I watch Juve whenever I can and he's a quality defender imo. Tall, strong, fast and aggressive. Strong in the air, fantastic tackler, reads the game well and has a great knack of intercepting. He can be clumsy though (and a bit of a idiot) and can make some unnecessary fouls but nobody's perfect (except for Nesta). He wasn't doing well for a few years but really bounced back last season and has continued to play well this season, put in a very good performance against us as well.

But you're right, it won't happen.