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[Fernando 6,585]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

‘If that dude’s mama gets deported, that’s on him’:

On Thursday evening, I went on the Roland Martin Unfiltered show to talk about why Latinos overwhelmingly shifted to the right and voted for Donald Trump. Martin, whom I’ve long respected as an analyst on politics back since I was a teenager, had the same response a lot of other people did.

“What the hell happened? Explain it to us,” he asked me.

I noted how Trump’s appeal is largely driven by polarization via education, given that people with college degrees and advanced degrees largely broke for Kamala Harris whereas those without a bachelor’s degree voted for Trump. Latinos are one of the groups least likely to have a college degree.

Understandably, Martin then highlighted multiple stories of Latinos who know they are at risk of being sent out of the United States under Trump’s proposed mass deportation plans but who still voted for the man.

“What the fuck?” he asked, bluntly.

But plenty of Latinos tend to think that they are different from “those types” of immigrants.

Families who came to the United States before it began to tighten its borders or who came here legally look upon families who came here illegally with supsicion. Plenty of border patrol agents themselves are Hispanic.

Martin said to me: “If that dude’s [a Trump voter’s] mama gets deported, that’s on him and I’m gonna play Scarface’s ‘No Tears,’” essentially saying that once Latinos who voted for Trump suffer in the wake of such policies, there will be no sympathy.

This has been the response from plenty of liberal pundits. Jim Acosta of CNN, who is Cuban-American, asked on CNN, “A lot of folks are asking on the Democratic side: Why would they [Latinos] do this to themselves?”

David Corn, the Washington bureau chief for Mother Jones, tweeted: “Perhaps massive deportations will affect how they see Trump.”

AP/Independent

 

This is dumb. Why would a Latino be in favor of deporting immigrants. Simply they are destroying the markert. 

Example my wife in Panama she was living legally and then came the Venezuela and destroyed the market. And they didn't have any legal status. 

It's cheaper to get the immigrants then a legal latino. 

Edited November 9, 2024 by Fernando

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

2 minutes ago, Fernando said:

This is dumb. Why would a Latino be in favor of deporting immigrants.

Yes some Hispanics may regret voting for the 80 year old if they or their relatives get booted out.

I remember my first time in California and Arizona in the 90s, driving early through LA etc there were all these Hispanics queuing outside Home Depot and Target etc to get a days work.

I remember thinking thank fuck its not that bad in the UK yet.....now guess what Zero Hours contracts is quite normal...exploitation

[cosmicway 1,333]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

‘If that dude’s mama gets deported, that’s on him’:

On Thursday evening, I went on the Roland Martin Unfiltered show to talk about why Latinos overwhelmingly shifted to the right and voted for Donald Trump. Martin, whom I’ve long respected as an analyst on politics back since I was a teenager, had the same response a lot of other people did.

“What the hell happened? Explain it to us,” he asked me.

I noted how Trump’s appeal is largely driven by polarization via education, given that people with college degrees and advanced degrees largely broke for Kamala Harris whereas those without a bachelor’s degree voted for Trump. Latinos are one of the groups least likely to have a college degree.

Understandably, Martin then highlighted multiple stories of Latinos who know they are at risk of being sent out of the United States under Trump’s proposed mass deportation plans but who still voted for the man.

“What the fuck?” he asked, bluntly.

But plenty of Latinos tend to think that they are different from “those types” of immigrants.

Families who came to the United States before it began to tighten its borders or who came here legally look upon families who came here illegally with supsicion. Plenty of border patrol agents themselves are Hispanic.

Martin said to me: “If that dude’s [a Trump voter’s] mama gets deported, that’s on him and I’m gonna play Scarface’s ‘No Tears,’” essentially saying that once Latinos who voted for Trump suffer in the wake of such policies, there will be no sympathy.

This has been the response from plenty of liberal pundits. Jim Acosta of CNN, who is Cuban-American, asked on CNN, “A lot of folks are asking on the Democratic side: Why would they [Latinos] do this to themselves?”

David Corn, the Washington bureau chief for Mother Jones, tweeted: “Perhaps massive deportations will affect how they see Trump.”

AP/Independent

 

Me too I would have liked to see some other Greeks deported from UK because they were commies and they were putting banners KKE in the buildings behind the Albert Hall, belonging to the University of London. Mallet street refectory on the top floor whenever I was visiting was full of their posters calling for ... communist revolution, in Greek. Those commies were rich cats most of them and they were living in luxury apartments paid by the KGB.
One of them stole my notes on Heat Transfer, a second year subject. I found his adress in East London but on the way I got lost and as I was looking around there was a police station so I went in and asked for directions. Then I found the house but he was not giving the notes back. I said "I 've just been to the police" which in a way was true and he got scared and returned them.
Yet for the normal type of brexit bigot the communist activities were n't even an issue, their issue was European peoples alltogether who were -in their eyes- the "enemy".
But there are the professionals snitchers too.
My mom knew from her Greek American father such stories from old.
Among the Greeks in America were some professional snitchers. They spotted other Greeks who had -somehow- sneaked in illegally. They were promising to give work to them and were inviting them to some place. But that was a trap. They had tipped the immigration police to catch them and received rewards for that.
Back in the UK I did n't know many naturalised Greeks though. One or two maybe and some others who were third-fourth generation.
But I knew many naturalised Cypriots. Most of them were Labour but there were some commies too.
If I had the vote I 'd find it hard or even impossible to vote for a brexit party otherwise I had no preference.

Edited November 9, 2024 by cosmicway

[Fernando 6,585]

5 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Yes some Hispanics may regret voting for the 80 year old if they or their relatives get booted out.

I remember my first time in California and Arizona in the 90s, driving early through LA etc there were all these Hispanics queuing outside Home Depot and Target etc to get a days work.

I remember thinking thank fuck its not that bad in the UK yet.....now guess what Zero Hours contracts is quite normal...exploitation

They can come back in legally. Trump is not against legal immigrants which is what it should be. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

8 minutes ago, Fernando said:

They can come back in legally. Trump is not against legal immigrants which is what it should be. 

Would be pretty insane if he was 🤪

I think the concern is their relatives. He said he will be ruthless from Day 1

[Fernando 6,585]

2 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

I think the concern is their relatives. He said he will be ruthless from Day 1

We shall see. I think a lot of latinos are in favor of deporting criminals. But general people who are not bothering no one should be consider on supporting them. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

Just now, Fernando said:

We shall see. I think a lot of latinos are in favor of deporting criminals. But general people who are not bothering no one should be consider on supporting them. 

Yes there's his rhetoric. and the reality of what he does -two different things

That said, he will want to impress his voters that he promised to boot immigrants out - so it depends on the numbers...sad if he throws out relatives of people that voted for him though

[Vesper 30,224]

17 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Me too I would have liked to see some other Greeks deported from UK because they were commies

roflmaooooooooooooo

sigh

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

6 minutes ago, Fernando said:

We shall see. I think a lot of latinos are in favor of deporting criminals. But general people who are not bothering no one should be consider on supporting them. 

I agree but he said  on Thursday to NBC News that one of his first priorities upon taking office in January was to make the border “strong and powerful.” When questioned about his campaign promise of ''mass deportations'', Trump said his administration would have “no choice” but to carry them out. . He said earlier immigrants are ''Poisoning the blood of the Nation''.

[cosmicway 1,333]

21 minutes ago, Vesper said:

roflmaooooooooooooo

sigh

A commie is an enemy of the nation.
A foreign house burglar is not. Good luck to him I say. If succesful later he may find himself in the honours list.
 

 

Edited November 9, 2024 by cosmicway

[Vesper 30,224]

7 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

''Poisoning the blood of the Nation''.

like cosmic's commie targets

lol

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

like cosmic's commie targets

lol

Shes a bit of a honey. Hello, Komrade....💋

Surely even Kosmic would appreciate Marxism studies with her...

[Vesper 30,224]

Just now, Fulham Broadway said:

Shes a bit of a honey. Hello, Komrade....💋

Surely even Kosmic would appreciate Marxism studies with her...

Dialectical sexual materialism

[cosmicway 1,333]

13 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Shes a bit of a honey. Hello, Komrade....💋

Surely even Kosmic would appreciate Marxism studies with her...

What you say can't be done.
In fact I chanced upon one of those once upon a time.
Not the figure shown in the image, quite different but that's not the point.
Well she was reading a -sort of- Tory newspaper so I said to her I had the same ideas as the newspaper.
My reason obvious.
But as it transpired the woman had either picked up the newspaper from a table by chance or she was looking for something very particular in it - what was on the cinemas perhaps,
She was a commie.
Next day, still not knowing, I offered her a drink.
But before I had a chance to say "cheers" a door opened and some character -boyfriend maybe- walked in.
It was a trap.
The "boyfriend" said to me "you are a decadent capitalist, trying to seduce the working class girls - you are first on the list after the revolution",
Well, I had to depart hastily, what else could I do ?
The place was one of the London uni student halls.

But suppose there was an affair,
I 'd have to listen to her for hours about the new five year plan.
Let alone their jokes about toilet functions ...

Edited November 9, 2024 by cosmicway

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

30 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

The "boyfriend" said to me "you are a decadent capitalist, trying to seduce the working class girls - you are first on the list after the revolution",

Think he was having a laugh in all honesty

Those Moscow girls....

 

[cosmicway 1,333]

18 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Think he was having a laugh in all honesty

Those Moscow girls....

 

No, smarmy face, a barmy sort.
In fact the same one had seen me at West Ham one day - near Upton park.
He asks me what I was doing there and I said I go to see the Hammers.
But I found it too boring to go to the Hammers and I went to a fish and chips instead.
Then he sees me again and now became very suspicious.
Says you lied to me, you are here for spying.
Then later he was the one who saved the working class girl ...

Edited November 9, 2024 by cosmicway

[NikkiCFC 8,336]

2 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

I agree but he said  on Thursday to NBC News that one of his first priorities upon taking office in January was to make the border “strong and powerful.”

My friend from NYC told me many Latinos he knows entered the country normally on border by giving cash to border control.  Not even large sums. 500, 600$. How is Trump going to stop that?

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

Just now, NikkiCFC said:

My friend from NYC told me many Latinos he knows entered the country normally on border by giving cash to border control.  Not even large sums. 500, 600$. How is Trump going to stop that?

True he has a job on his hands - I suppose if you do enter having paid $5-600 you'd never have peace of mind. With a traffic stop, medical emergency, Social security requisite - you're found out immediately.

I think the difference is up until now authorities/employers turned a blind eye as its a profitable source of cheap labour. But now he says they're all criminals and rapists

....hes in good company then

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

17 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

No, smarmy face, a barmy sort.
In fact the same one had seen me at West Ham one day - near Upton park.
He asks me what I was doing there and I said I go to see the Hammers.
But I found it too boring to go to the Hammers and I went to a fish and chips instead.
Then he sees me again and now became very suspicious.
Says you lied to me, you are here for spying.
Then later he was the one who saved the working class girl ...

So you could have been a closet claret then !

[Vesper 30,224]

1 hour ago, cosmicway said:

She was a commie.
Next day, still not knowing, I offered her a drink.
But before I had a chance to say "cheers" a door opened and some character -boyfriend maybe- walked in.
It was a trap.
The "boyfriend" said to me "you are a decadent capitalist, trying to seduce the working class girls - you are first on the list after the revolution"

sounds like a 1968 pulp fiction novella

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