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[ZAPHOD2319 4,801]

One of the reasons our relations with Panama soured was our military bases there. I was there shortly after the over throw. The way that the US military treated Panamanians was appalling.

[Fernando 6,585]

27 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

One of the reasons our relations with Panama soured was our military bases there. I was there shortly after the over throw. The way that the US military treated Panamanians was appalling.

True, but I also spoken to a lot of Panamanians and they mentioned how things have gone worse since they left. 

But in the end my point stand, the only country that was not even a country and we help and still maintain a good relationship is Israel. 

Everywhere else USA has not had a fruit of a country like Israel. Vietnam, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan are to name a few. So that is either a miracle or just coincidence if you don't believe in miracles...

 

 

Edited October 26, 2023 by Fernando

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

5 hours ago, Fernando said:

Another mass shooting in USA, this time in Maine. 

This is getting crazy. 

He could be anywhere too. Maine is pretty much wilderness.

[Fernando 6,585]

15 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

He could be anywhere too. Maine is pretty much wilderness.

You got some nice city in Portland and what not. 

But yes this mass shooting is out of control. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

3 hours ago, Fernando said:

Israel is one of the few that has come good. 

Would have love to have the same in Iraq and Afghanistan,

Probably giving one 3.8bn dollars a year, and bombing and invading the other two while killing a couple of million people is the difference

[Fernando 6,585]

25 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Probably giving one 3.8bn dollars a year, and bombing and invading the other two while killing a couple of million people is the difference

But we always gave a lot of money away to all the other countries....look at how much we spend in Afghanistan? Only to fall to Taliban in less then a month. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

14 minutes ago, Fernando said:

But we always gave a lot of money away to all the other countries....look at how much we spend in Afghanistan? Only to fall to Taliban in less then a month. 

Well the Taliban and other tribes were always there to be fair. Bombing Afghanistan back to the stone age after 9/11 is now widely regarded as a mistake, especially as the 9/11 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia

[Clockwork 1,794]

Joe Biden questioning the civilians death count in Gaza and downplaying the tragedy, US intelligence and department have not really questioned this in the conflicts over the past couple of decades. Not a single useless reporter is willing to question why are they suddenly unreliable? Neither has the IDF for that matter, they have only questioned the circumstances or who was responsible.

 

https://www.moh.gov.ps/portal/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/تقرير-نهائي-باسماء-الشهداء-1.pdf

So many children on the list. So sad.

 

 

 

Edited October 26, 2023 by Clockwork

[Clockwork 1,794]

Not only is the US and other western countries supporting this tragedy, but also downplaying the losses and suffering. 

Edited October 26, 2023 by Clockwork

[Fernando 6,585]

3 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Well the Taliban and other tribes were always there to be fair. Bombing Afghanistan back to the stone age after 9/11 is now widely regarded as a mistake, especially as the 9/11 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia

But that's what I'm saying. Nowhere where USA has tried to established democracy has ever worked. Israel has been the only one and to a certain extant Panama, even though they are starting to go down after flourishing for a bit. 

So my original point is that no, USA is not that good to have satellite states everywhere. That is nearly impossible to do, Israel to have flourish like this and is the few democracy is just a miracle. 

[Fernando 6,585]

2 hours ago, Clockwork said:

Joe Biden questioning the civilians death count in Gaza and downplaying the tragedy, US intelligence and department have not really questioned this in the conflicts over the past couple of decades. Not a single useless reporter is willing to question why are they suddenly unreliable? Neither has the IDF for that matter, they have only questioned the circumstances or who was responsible.

 

https://www.moh.gov.ps/portal/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/تقرير-نهائي-باسماء-الشهداء-1.pdf

So many children on the list. So sad.

 

 

 

To be fair I'm actually surprised by this. I always thought Biden was very negative against Israel. Very surprised to say the least. 

[Vesper 30,085]

 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

14 hours ago, Fernando said:

To be fair I'm actually surprised by this. I always thought Biden was very negative against Israel. Very surprised to say the least. 

You don't get to be where he is by being negative against Israel.

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

14 hours ago, Fernando said:

To be fair I'm actually surprised by this. I always thought Biden was very negative against Israel. Very surprised to say the least. 

Questions the actual death toll of Palestinians, confirmed the beheading of Israeli babies even though it was debunked and he lied about seeing it. 

Joe Biden. 

[Fernando 6,585]

5 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Questions the actual death toll of Palestinians, confirmed the beheading of Israeli babies even though it was debunked and he lied about seeing it. 

Joe Biden. 

debunked? By who?

Seriously I can disagree with some stuff that Israel has done, but you stating that that Israeli made up beheading baby's is just insane. 

Like those that say the Jewish Holocaust never happen.....