Politics & Stuff

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12 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Do terrorist use civilians as human child? Yes sometimes, often though it is a gross oversimplification. terrorist live among among civilians. It is not like they have a terrorist on their forehead  and everyone is aware of it, or are the terrorist are secluding themselves. 

Target terrorist, the vast majority support that. The issue is targeting them without considering the human casualty. Israel has also used white phosphorus in recent days which is against International law.

true, but having human shields (regardless how willing) killed help their cause; at the very least they bring up the number of their civilian casualties on their side. I think it's very convenient to attack and then "hide" where you are untouchable unless civilians die.

I think to "consider the human casualty" is easier said than done given how terrorists operate.

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11 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Would have thought cutting off water, food and electricity, for two and a half million people, bombing schools and a hospital tonight killing over 500 civilians was the actions of Terrorists. Oh no its ok its Israel doing it.

I think you are mixing terminology here. Israel isn't doing terrorism the same way Russia isn't. We can all condemn a governments for doing terrible things, but they are different things.

The issue I have is with the response: OK, let's go kill a bunch of civilians in a party to make things even.

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5 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

I think you are mixing terminology here. Israel isn't doing terrorism the same way Russia isn't.

Yes we are - the thought that a state cant be Terrorist is laughable

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10 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Yes we are - the thought that a state cant be Terrorist is laughable

Then no country has ever been at war and were merely doing terrorism. 🤷‍♂️

My point remains, it's not about which is worse, but that they are different. Israel "declared" war and is attacking their targets "as they announced." Terrorism is a very different tool.

This is a discussion of terminology now and I think they are VERY different. Once again, not about which is better. Russia invasion of Ukraine isn't better than anything, but I would definitely not call it terrorism. They declared war and then proceeded to invade the country. The reasons for declaring the war are irrelevant to define whether it's war or not.

Once war is happening, then atrocities of all kinds (murder and rape) will happen. That's always the case.

Edited October 17, 2023 by robsblubot

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2 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Then no country has ever been at war and were merely doing terrorism. 🤷‍♂️

My point remains, it's not about which is worse, but that they are different. Israel "declared" war and is attacking their targets "as they announced." Terrorism is a very different tool.

This is a discussion of terminology now and I think they are VERY different. Once again, not about which is better. Russia invasion of Ukraine isn't better than anything, but I would definitely not call it terrorism. They declared war and then proceeded to invade the country. The reasons for declaring the war are irrelevant to define whether it's war or not.

Once war is happening, then atrocities of all kinds (murder and rape) will happen. That's always the case.

But there are rules of engagement. The Hamas atrocities were appalling - Israels response is worse, yet they keep taking the moral high ground.

Ukraine gets invaded and they are labelled heroes and given billions of aid and weapons. palestine gets invaded by Israel and they are 'terrorists'. 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

But there are rules of engagement. The Hamas atrocities were appalling - Israels response is worse, yet they keep taking the moral high ground.

Ukraine gets invaded and they are labelled heroes and given billions of aid and weapons. palestine gets invaded by Israel and they are 'terrorists'. 

 

 

Don't hear many people saying Israel has the moral high ground... certainly not around here. They lost that the moment they attacked the way they did. 

Ukraine did not do, or does, acts of terrorism. As in a sneak attack + targeting civilians ... Hamas' acts endangered their own people, and I am 100% sure they fully knew that.

 

Edited October 17, 2023 by robsblubot

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Just now, robsblubot said:

saying Israel has the moral high ground..

Their UK ambassador says it ad nauseaum. Palestinians routinely described as animals

 

2 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

They lost that the moment they attacked the way they did. 

Try looking at other media other than Zionist backed corporate ones. They have murdered hundreds of civilians in the last year.

 

4 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

acts endangered their own peopl

Pretty hard not to when youre in the most densely populated open prison in the World, you cant leave no one can come in

 

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Fox News says 'all Palestinians are hamas' 🤪

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4 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Fox News says 'all Palestinians are hamas' 🤪

Well, if you watch Fox News (or even the liberal counterparts like msnbc), that's on you.

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2 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Well, if you watch Fox News (or even the liberal counterparts like msnbc), that's on you.

You have to check many, we were taught that during my politics degree

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Just seen pictures of the missile hitting the palestinian Christian Hospital on twitter. I wont post the pictures,  bodies of children, mishapen, babies charred, limbs and heads missing. Tragetted with laser precision guided weapons.

 

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46 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Just seen pictures of the missile hitting the palestinian Christian Hospital on twitter. I wont post the pictures,  bodies of children, mishapen, babies charred, limbs and heads missing. Tragetted with laser precision guided weapons.

 

Should probably wait for more information. Israel claims they did not hit it.

"Palestinian officials blamed ongoing Israeli airstrikes for the lethal incident. But the Israel Defense Forces has “categorically” denied any involvement in the hospital attack, blaming instead a “failed rocket launch” by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad group, a rival Islamist militant group in Gaza.

We did not strike that, and that the intelligence that we have suggests that it was a failed rocket launch by the Islamic Jihad, and I want to add, categorically, that we do not intentionally strike any sensitive facilities, any sensitive facilities, and definitely not hospitals,” Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus told CNN."

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52 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

You have to check many, we were taught that during my politics degree

yeah absolutely never take news/opinions as gospel.

Once you admit in court of blatantly lying for some political agenda, well I feel in the right to not consider it a reliable source of news. 😉 

Edited October 17, 2023 by robsblubot

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1 minute ago, robsblubot said:

they did not hit it.

😅

[Fulham Broadway 17,300]

Hezbollah are 100 times more weaponised than Gaza resistance. 

Israeli cities will be targetted.

The US will get involved - Iran will respond they have serious weapons. 

US will pummel Iran -other Gulf States will respond -Straits of Hormuz will be blocked, if you think $100 a barrel is expensive, oil will be $10 000 a barrell -China and Russia will back Iran

Say adios to your job and infrastucture, its a roller coaster to WW3 Hell looming - maybe Israel wanted this all along....

I am avialable for parties btw