Politics & Stuff

[YorkshireBlue 2,941]

3 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Probably, but again, we do the best we can not to end up with Hitler as commander in chief. It's NOT a binary choice here: there are quite distinct levels of abuse.
Some people do conflate fraud with mass fraud, for example. It's incredibly more difficult to spot and prevent small things, but it gets easier when it's done in large scale: applies to much of crime in general.

Regarding taxes, you do tho. We do have control over that at local and federal level. It depends which party we elect and the the policies behind that.
I don't care too much myself as I have the luxury to not care, but I can certainly emphasize with colleagues and friends if they feel otherwise.

Here in the UK it doesn't work like that, we don't have separate run states, it's a whole thing and we all pay the same, and get the same regardless of county.

[NikkiCFC 7,772]

1 hour ago, YorkshireBlue said:

22 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

 

I don't care too much myself as I have the luxury to not care, but I can certainly emphasize with colleagues and friends if they feel otherwise.

 Call that selfish all you want but I look after my family and do what's best for them, because no one else will, so again I ask why should I care what taxes ppl pay?   

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

—Martin Niemöller

[Clockwork 1,794]

1 hour ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Wars are fought for land and what ever else you said, but in the name or religion, when people are bombing arenas in the name of a god, that's an act of terrorism in the name of religion or how they see the religion, ww2 Hitler went after a certain religion and killed as many as he could, land is a profit of war but not always the reason.

Hitler was not religious, the tribe he advocated to unite the Germans was a racial one or nationalism. I seriously cannot if you are going to cite WW2 as a religious motivated war. 

 

[YorkshireBlue 2,941]

3 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

—Martin Niemöller

No one need speak for me, the system is a cancer that will spit you out when it's done with you, sooner you learn that the better your life will be. People waste fat to much time fighting for a party or a system that couldn't give a fuck about them.

[YorkshireBlue 2,941]

4 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Hitler was not religious, the tribe he advocated to unite the Germans was a racial one or nationalism. I seriously cannot if you are going to cite WW2 as a religious motivated war. 

 

Jews short for Jewish, it's a religious set of people, how is that not religious, been Jewish isn't a race

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[Clockwork 1,794]

54 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Jews short for Jewish, it's a religious set of people, how is that not religious 

Jews was one of the groups targeted, he also targeted Sinti, Roma, blacks, gays, etc the Nazi also targeted Aryans who were physically and mentally disabled  because they were seen as abnormal and not pure. If you understand Nazism ideology you would understand that it was racially motivated rather than religiously. There is a religious aspect at a minor level.

Jewish can be classified as religion, ethnicity, or race. Because there a lot of Jews who consider themselves jewish, but not practicing Judaism.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

 

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[Vesper 27,769]

 Diane Abbott has said she will be a Labour candidate in the election and has not been offered a peerage

[Fulham Broadway 16,520]

9 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Here in the UK it doesn't work like that, we don't have separate run states, it's a whole thing and we all pay the same, and get the same regardless of county.

We dont all pay the same here. There are 70 000 'non dom' multi millionaire tory donors that pay fuck all in 'return' for their support and donations to the party. Similarly, Amazon, Starbucks etc. Yet as a self employed builder I was regularly interrogated, investigated in case I was £20 short of tax.

[YorkshireBlue 2,941]

37 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

We dont all pay the same here. There are 70 000 'non dom' multi millionaire tory donors that pay fuck all in 'return' for their support and donations to the party. Similarly, Amazon, Starbucks etc. Yet as a self employed builder I was regularly interrogated, investigated in case I was £20 short of tax.

Obviously you talking about the mega companies, I'm talking about us normal folk, kinda funny though that you say Tory donors... Do you really think they wouldn't be paying the same under labour? A lot of people are still feeling the struggles from the last time labour were in charge, I'm voting reform.

Also I own a roofing firm, my advice get a better accountant 😂

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[Fulham Broadway 16,520]

10 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Do you really think they wouldn't be paying the same under labour?

At least Labour have said theyre scrapping the 'non don' status of the 70 000 tory donors - now a lot have said they will leave the country. Good, fuck off then.

 

12 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

A lot of people are still feeling the struggles from the last time labour were in charge

What struggles are they still reeling from from 14 years ago ? (I am no fan of Labour btw)

 

13 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

I'm voting reform

Another bunch of cunts. Reform UK Limited. Company number11694875. Run by Richard Tice with his two offshore trusts to avoid paying any tax in the UK. One, Sunley Family Trust in the British Virgin Islands and the other, Sunciera Trust, in Panama. What a patriot! Tax is only for little people  Reform just a private enterprise to make multi millionaires Tice and his slag Oakshott richer

 

16 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

my advice get a better accountant

Definitely 👍

[YorkshireBlue 2,941]

2 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

At least Labour have said theyre scrapping the 'non don' status of the 70 000 tory donors - now a lot have said they will leave the country. Good, fuck off then.

 

What struggles are they still reeling from from 14 years ago ? (I am no fan of Labour btw)

 

Another bunch of cunts. Reform UK Limited. Company number11694875. Run by Richard Tice with his two offshore trusts to avoid paying any tax in the UK. One, Sunley Family Trust in the British Virgin Islands and the other, Sunciera Trust, in Panama. What a patriot! Tax is only for little people  Reform just a private enterprise to make multi millionaires Tice and his slag Oakshott richer

 

Definitely 👍

So you hate the tores not a labour fan and hate reform, who u actually voting for 😂

[Fulham Broadway 16,520]

37 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

So you hate the tores not a labour fan and hate reform, who u actually voting for 😂

Count Binface or Lord Buckethead seem the most sensible options🙃 

Think the Aussies are on to something with'none of the above' as an option. Though not sure about compulsory voting. ''Whoever you vote for the government gets in'' ''If voting changed anything they'd ban it''

[cosmicway 1,281]

Religion did not cause wars, but is true it could n't stop wars.
Islam is the exception because it is the religion of jihad. Even so this is disputed by some of the imams.
It's a piece of communist propaganda that religion causes wars.

[YorkshireBlue 2,941]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Count Binface or Lord Buckethead seem the most sensible options🙃 

Think the Aussies are on to something with'none of the above' as an option. Though not sure about compulsory voting. ''Whoever you vote for the government gets in'' ''If voting changed anything they'd ban it''

TBF I do tend to just write non of the above, or I tend not to vote, unless some one comes in and gives a really good pitch, I've lost all interest in it.

[cosmicway 1,281]

If Trump is defeated in November can he run again in 2028 ?

[Fulham Broadway 16,520]

1 hour ago, YorkshireBlue said:

TBF I do tend to just write non of the above,

Same. The problem we have here is that is classified as a 'spoiled paper'. With an authorised 'none of the above' as they have in other countries, its actively counted as an endorsement that you view the available candidates as cunts

[YorkshireBlue 2,941]

5 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Same. The problem we have here is that is classified as a 'spoiled paper'. With an authorised 'none of the above' as they have in other countries, its actively counted as an endorsement that you view the available candidates as cunts

I would certainly get onboard with this, and I get that they just put it down as spoiled that's the reason I just stopped voting all together, was just wasting my time 😂

[NikkiCFC 7,772]

2 hours ago, cosmicway said:

It's a piece of communist propaganda that religion causes wars.

😆 

U use this for everything you don't like. 

When we discussed gays in ancient Greece = communist propaganda. Religion causes wars = communist propaganda.

Eurovision is fixed. Fa Cup final is fixed... Who fixed it? Communists again?