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1 minute ago, Atomiswave said:

Ottoman may have been there but it wasnt theirs.......turks werent living there for eons. Its like if Iran invaded Saudi for 100 years, doesnt mean its Irans birth territory. Arabs were living there before that etc.

No point you said history don't matter. 

Present is what matters. So talking about the past means "squat"

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2 minutes ago, Fernando said:

No point you said history don't matter. 

Present is what matters. So talking about the past means "squat"

Of course history matters, I as a persian love all that. We also owned half the known worlds at some points but that doesnt mean it was OUR land.

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29 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Of course history matters, I as a persian love all that. We also owned half the known worlds at some points but that doesnt mean it was OUR land.

Look I get it you want to defend a group of people. We all do, but at one point whoever is the leader must put aside his ego and hatred for the enemy and must think about his people. 

The Palestinian leadership is about to get a proposal from the US, take it and save your people. 

I don't know if they will ever take it because their hatred for the jews is much more than the well being of their people. 

I think about the movie Kingdom of Heaven with orlando bloom. How the fight for that land is never ending. But the leader at the end which is orlando takes the term and leaves a live with his people.

A leader that considers more important the lives of his people. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Look I get it you want to defend a group of people. We all do, but at one point whoever is the leader must put aside his ego and hatred for the enemy and must think about his people. 

The Palestinian leadership is about to get a proposal from the US, take it and save your people. 

I don't know if they will ever take it because their hatred for the jews is much more than the well being of their people. 

I think about the movie Kingdom of Heaven with orlando bloom. How the fight for that land is never ending. But the leader at the end which is orlando takes the term and leaves a live with his people.

A leader that considers more important the lives of his people. 

 

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Lets hope so my man..........enough with all the evil shit we must do better. But yeah fat chance that happens.

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Looks like US want that war with Iran. Now blaming yet again another bogus attack on Iran without a single proof. Even said the other day that entering Iran would be piss easy......well dear Trump so far Iran have responded much better than you. Filmed all your destroyers and fleet without you noticing it ( stealth drone with weaponry ), shot your 220m plus uber drone like a bird.

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