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[Vesper 30,234]

Israeli UK Ambassador Makes Sickening Claim About Gaza Civilians

 

[cosmicway 1,333]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

Israeli UK Ambassador Makes Sickening Claim About Gaza Civilians

 

I find Lord Haw Haw-Axis Sally-Tokyo Rose-Her Goebbels a lot more credible-rational-believable than those Hamas videos.

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

 

[Fernando 6,585]

Budget Cuts Hit Preschools, Cops, Libraries as Mayor Blames Migrants

 

https://www.thecity.nyc/2023/11/16/budget-cuts-hit-city-hall-blames-migrant-crisis/

 

I wonder if NYC is going to change their posture about immigrants? 

People can be liberal and all that stuff but when it comes to putting your money where your mouth is its something different. 

These are the sacrifice that needs to be made to help immigrant. 

[Vesper 30,234]

Now Even the BBC Is Seeing Through Israel’s Lies

 

[Vesper 30,234]

The Spineless Labour MPs Who Abstained On Gaza Ceasefire

 

[Fernando 6,585]

Protesters rally against New York City budget cuts outside City Hall

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/new-york-city-budget-cuts-protest-outside-city-hall/

 

LOL now new Yorkers are protesting the budget cut because of the immigrants using up a lot of the money. 

Like I always said liberals bash conservative about the borders closure and what not. But when you let them in and it's your city that has to help them then things change. 

It's all good the talk the talk but can you walk the walk? 

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

On 15/11/2023 at 12:59, Fernando said:

What I'm told actually that the people that Hamas killed where the pro Palestinians. The one who would help the Palestinians get them to hospital and what not. And that was for two state solution. 

What a pity that Hamas killed the Israel that was for them if this is true. 

Being a pro palestinian Israeli is like being a Pro Jewish Nazi.

 

You cant be a pro of a group as you party next to their jail.

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

Massive Oil and Gas Fields under Gaza

We should know by now that when both political parties in the U.S. show bipartisan support, something deeply sinister is happening behind the scenes. We should also know that when a superpower starts using human rights as a justification for their actions, there’s always an ulterior motive. Remember Saddam Hussein’s “weapons of mass destruction”?

Since October 9th, Israel has already awarded a dozen oil and gas exploration licenses in Palestine to six different Big Oil companies, including BP

Likewise, the war in Ukraine has nothing to do with democracy, human rights, or even Russian aggression.

It’s about natural gas.

The U.S. and Russia have been fighting for dominance of Ukraine for at least ten years. Ukraine sits on Europe’s second-largest natural gas reserve. Russia has also exported natural gas to the EU through pipelines across Ukraine. Months after Russia’s invasion, a pro-Ukrainian group sabotaged the Nord Stream pipelines that carried natural gas from Russia to Germany. Now Germany is signing 20-year deals to import liquefied natural gas from the U.S. On a side note, liquefied natural gas is “way worse than coal.”

Before all of this, Joe Biden’s son just happened to find a way onto the board at one of Ukraine’s largest natural gas companies.

Now do you get it?

Once you see the facts, you can’t deny it. Sure, you want to deny the facts. But then you look at world history. You look at U.S. history in particular. You come to understand that every single war we’ve ever fought was about resources or influence, or both. Even when there’s a human motive, it’s always the presence of resources and fossil fuels that tip superpowers over into violence. Why else would our leaders spend hundreds of billions of dollars on these wars, and literally no other human rights need, like hunger?

Freedom and democracy are always a cover story.

Baxter Dmitry US writer

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[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

The richest 1% of humanity is responsible for more carbon emissions than the poorest 66%, with dire consequences for vulnerable communities and global efforts to tackle the climate emergency, a report says.

The most comprehensive study of global climate inequality ever undertaken shows that this elite group, made up of 77 million people including billionaires, millionaires and those paid more than US$140,000 (£112,500) a year, accounted for 16% of all CO2 emissions in 2019 – enough to cause more than a million excess deaths due to heat, according to the report.

Reuters

[Vesper 30,234]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Massive Oil and Gas Fields under Gaza

We should know by now that when both political parties in the U.S. show bipartisan support, something deeply sinister is happening behind the scenes. We should also know that when a superpower starts using human rights as a justification for their actions, there’s always an ulterior motive. Remember Saddam Hussein’s “weapons of mass destruction”?

Since October 9th, Israel has already awarded a dozen oil and gas exploration licenses in Palestine to six different Big Oil companies, including BP

Likewise, the war in Ukraine has nothing to do with democracy, human rights, or even Russian aggression.

It’s about natural gas.

The U.S. and Russia have been fighting for dominance of Ukraine for at least ten years. Ukraine sits on Europe’s second-largest natural gas reserve. Russia has also exported natural gas to the EU through pipelines across Ukraine. Months after Russia’s invasion, a pro-Ukrainian group sabotaged the Nord Stream pipelines that carried natural gas from Russia to Germany. Now Germany is signing 20-year deals to import liquefied natural gas from the U.S. On a side note, liquefied natural gas is “way worse than coal.”

Before all of this, Joe Biden’s son just happened to find a way onto the board at one of Ukraine’s largest natural gas companies.

Now do you get it?

Once you see the facts, you can’t deny it. Sure, you want to deny the facts. But then you look at world history. You look at U.S. history in particular. You come to understand that every single war we’ve ever fought was about resources or influence, or both. Even when there’s a human motive, it’s always the presence of resources and fossil fuels that tip superpowers over into violence. Why else would our leaders spend hundreds of billions of dollars on these wars, and literally no other human rights need, like hunger?

Freedom and democracy are always a cover story.

Baxter Dmitry US writer

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Beware my friend, It is fake news, Baxter Dmitry is a RW disinfo writer

 

here is the reality

Quote

 

https://today.lorientlejour.com/article/1357621/gas-at-stake-in-gaza-why-this-theory-doesnt-hold-true.html

The massive Leviathan field (623 billion cubic meters) and the Tamar field (200 billion cubic meters) are Israel’s main gas resources. By comparison, the potential revenues from Gaza Marine (32 billion cubic meters) are extremely minimal. If Gaza Marine were to be seized by Israel, its development would have no significant impact on the country’s energy independence or its export plans.

“If productive, which it is not, Gaza Marine would produce about 2 percent of what is currently being produced from Tamar and Leviathan. In other words, Gaza Marine is not something Israel finds worth going to war over — especially considering that the war threatens its much larger, pre-existing projects,” said Karen Young, a senior researcher at Columbia University’s Center on Global Energy Policy.

 

 

and here is a take down of Baxter Dmitry  and the source

 

first I show the link and headline

Quote

 

fake news link:

https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/massive-oil-and-gas-reserves-discovered-under-gaza-israel-grants-development-licenses/

 

 

and here is more on the author and the site

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsPunch

NewsPunch (currently branded as ThePeoplesVoice(.tv)) is a Los Angeles-based fake news website. Originally named Your News Wire, it was founded in 2014 by Sean Adl-Tabatabai and his husband Sinclair Treadway. In November 2018, it rebranded itself as NewsPunch. Your News Wire was revived as a separate website in November 2020, and has continued publishing hoaxes similar to those in NewsPunch.

A 2017 BuzzFeed report identified NewsPunch as being the second-largest source of popular fake stories spread on Facebook that year,[6] and a June 2018 Poynter analysis identified NewsPunch as being debunked over 80 times in 2017 and 2018 by Poynter-accredited factcheckers such as Snopes, FactCheck.org, PolitiFact, and the Associated Press.[7]

The European Union's East StratCom Task Force has criticized NewsPunch for spreading Russian propaganda, a charge Adl-Tabatabai denies.

Regular contributors to NewsPunch include Adl-Tabatabai, a former BBC and MTV employee from London previously an employee of conspiracy theorist David Icke,[15] Adl-Tabatabai's mother Carol Adl, an alternative health practitioner, and Baxter Dmitry, who had previously been posing as an unrelated Latvian man using a stolen profile photo.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mother-churns-out-stories-for-master-of-fake-news-fcmzc05sx

https://archive.li/sWsx0

 

Another prolific writer on the site goes by the name of Baxter Dmitry. The photograph next to the author’s name was in fact that of a Latvian computer programmer, who told The Sunday Times he was not Dmitry and his identity had been stolen. The photograph has since changed to a picture of a different man.

 

 

 

 

finally, here is a debunking of the Joe Biden conspiracy theory (remember, Trump was impeached over this, in part)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden–Ukraine_conspiracy_theory

The Biden–Ukraine conspiracy theory is a series of false allegations that Joe Biden, while he was vice president of the United States, improperly withheld a loan guarantee to pressure Ukraine into firing prosecutor general Viktor Shokin to prevent a corruption investigation of Ukrainian gas company Burisma and to protect his son, Hunter Biden, who was on the Burisma board.^[1] As part of efforts by Donald Trump^[2] and his campaign in the Trump–Ukraine scandal, which led to Trump's first impeachment, these falsehoods were spread in an attempt to damage Joe Biden's reputation and chances during the 2020 presidential campaign.^[3]

Joe Biden followed State Department intentions^[4] when he withheld the loan guarantee to pressure Ukraine into removing the prosecutor^[5] who was seen as corrupt and failing to clean up Ukrainian corruption,^[6] in accordance with the official and bipartisan policy of the United States, the European Union, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.^[7][8][9]

United States intelligence community analysis released in March 2021 found that proxies of Russian intelligence promoted and laundered misleading or unsubstantiated narratives about the Bidens "to US media organizations, US officials, and prominent US individuals, including some close to former President Trump and his administration."^[10][11][12] The New York Times reported in May 2021 that a federal criminal investigation was examining a possible role by current and former Ukrainian officials, including whether they used former Trump personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, who was the subject of a separate but related federal investigation, to spread unsubstantiated claims.^[13]

A joint investigation by two Republican Senate committees released in September 2020 found no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden, nor has a sweeping Republican House committee investigation of the Biden family as of September 2023. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy directed three committees to open a formal impeachment inquiry that month.^{[14][15][16][17]}

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

3 hours ago, Vesper said:

 

Beware my friend, It is fake news, Baxter Dmitry is a RW disinfo writer

 

here is the reality

 

and here is a take down of Baxter Dmitry  and the source

 

first I show the link and headline

and here is more on the author and the site

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsPunch

NewsPunch (currently branded as ThePeoplesVoice(.tv)) is a Los Angeles-based fake news website. Originally named Your News Wire, it was founded in 2014 by Sean Adl-Tabatabai and his husband Sinclair Treadway. In November 2018, it rebranded itself as NewsPunch. Your News Wire was revived as a separate website in November 2020, and has continued publishing hoaxes similar to those in NewsPunch.

A 2017 BuzzFeed report identified NewsPunch as being the second-largest source of popular fake stories spread on Facebook that year,[6] and a June 2018 Poynter analysis identified NewsPunch as being debunked over 80 times in 2017 and 2018 by Poynter-accredited factcheckers such as Snopes, FactCheck.org, PolitiFact, and the Associated Press.[7]

The European Union's East StratCom Task Force has criticized NewsPunch for spreading Russian propaganda, a charge Adl-Tabatabai denies.

Regular contributors to NewsPunch include Adl-Tabatabai, a former BBC and MTV employee from London previously an employee of conspiracy theorist David Icke,[15] Adl-Tabatabai's mother Carol Adl, an alternative health practitioner, and Baxter Dmitry, who had previously been posing as an unrelated Latvian man using a stolen profile photo.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mother-churns-out-stories-for-master-of-fake-news-fcmzc05sx

https://archive.li/sWsx0

 

Another prolific writer on the site goes by the name of Baxter Dmitry. The photograph next to the author’s name was in fact that of a Latvian computer programmer, who told The Sunday Times he was not Dmitry and his identity had been stolen. The photograph has since changed to a picture of a different man.

 

 

 

 

finally, here is a debunking of the Joe Biden conspiracy theory (remember, Trump was impeached over this, in part)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden–Ukraine_conspiracy_theory

The Biden–Ukraine conspiracy theory is a series of false allegations that Joe Biden, while he was vice president of the United States, improperly withheld a loan guarantee to pressure Ukraine into firing prosecutor general Viktor Shokin to prevent a corruption investigation of Ukrainian gas company Burisma and to protect his son, Hunter Biden, who was on the Burisma board.^[1] As part of efforts by Donald Trump^[2] and his campaign in the Trump–Ukraine scandal, which led to Trump's first impeachment, these falsehoods were spread in an attempt to damage Joe Biden's reputation and chances during the 2020 presidential campaign.^[3]

Joe Biden followed State Department intentions^[4] when he withheld the loan guarantee to pressure Ukraine into removing the prosecutor^[5] who was seen as corrupt and failing to clean up Ukrainian corruption,^[6] in accordance with the official and bipartisan policy of the United States, the European Union, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.^[7][8][9]

United States intelligence community analysis released in March 2021 found that proxies of Russian intelligence promoted and laundered misleading or unsubstantiated narratives about the Bidens "to US media organizations, US officials, and prominent US individuals, including some close to former President Trump and his administration."^[10][11][12] The New York Times reported in May 2021 that a federal criminal investigation was examining a possible role by current and former Ukrainian officials, including whether they used former Trump personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, who was the subject of a separate but related federal investigation, to spread unsubstantiated claims.^[13]

A joint investigation by two Republican Senate committees released in September 2020 found no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden, nor has a sweeping Republican House committee investigation of the Biden family as of September 2023. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy directed three committees to open a formal impeachment inquiry that month.^{[14][15][16][17]}

OK didnt know that should have checked the geezer out

[Vesper 30,234]

1 minute ago, Fulham Broadway said:

OK didnt know that should have checked the geezer out

I am used to posting in a hyper-vetted political private group, so I am used to backgrounding everything.

[Vesper 30,234]

Trump in Iowa: I Do Not Like ‘Golden Showers’ from Prostitutes

Gross and depraved speech by Trump raises more red flags

 

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/trump-in-iowa-i-do-not-like-golden-showers-from-prostitutes

 

Speaking at a small high school gymnasium in Fort Dodge, Iowa on Saturday, Trump told his supporters what he feels about being urinated on by prostitutes. To be precise, Trump told those who attended that he doesn’t like “golden showers” from “hookers” because he is a “germaphobe.” Trump went into this depraved and disgusting tirade unprompted as part of his scripted remarks. Here is the clip:

 

Edited November 20, 2023 by Vesper

[Fulham Broadway 17,335]

17 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I am used to posting in a hyper-vetted political private group, so I am used to backgrounding everything.

I usually check sources as well - saw the 12 licences issued to BP and others for drilling off gaza, (which is true btw) and used that blokes piece

[Fernando 6,585]

22 hours ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

Being a pro palestinian Israeli is like being a Pro Jewish Nazi.

 

You cant be a pro of a group as you party next to their jail.

That don't make sense there's no such thing. In Germany during the Nazi regime there where people against Nazi that helped Jews. They got killed as well by the Nazi. 

Same here there's liberal Jews that support Palestine and help them. 

 

Edited November 20, 2023 by Fernando

[Fernando 6,585]

On 18/11/2023 at 20:48, Vesper said:

Now Even the BBC Is Seeing Through Israel’s Lies

 

I think we will get more info about this in the coming weeks. 

Israel will have to provide more info about this in the coming months. Otherwise they will be in major trouble 

 

 

[MoroccanBlue 5,385]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

Same here there's liberal Jews that support Palestine and help them. 

More than 3/4 of Israelis are against Netanyahu and his authoritarian leadership.  

 

[Fernando 6,585]

17 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

More than 3/4 of Israelis are against Netanyahu and his authoritarian leadership.  

 

That is what I'm saying. It's like saying that during nazi regime are all nazi. Dumb statements as many Germans oppose nazi and got killed by the nazi. 

And that's what I'm saying that is happening, today you can't tell me all Palestinians are bad because they are Hamas..ludicrous statement. 

Like wise hating all jews just because they are jews and not realizing that they are for helping Palestinians. 

I mean look at this vandalizing just because they are jews:

New York City Jewish bakery vandalized with spray-painted graffiti: 'Free Gaza'

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/new-york-city-jewish-bakery-vandalized-with-spray-painted-graffiti-free-gaza

 

Edited November 20, 2023 by Fernando

[MoroccanBlue 5,385]

17 minutes ago, Fernando said:

That is what I'm saying. It's like saying that during nazi regime are all nazi. Dumb statements as many Germans oppose nazi and got killed by the nazi. 

And that's what I'm saying that is happening, today you can't tell me all Palestinians are bad because they are Hamas..ludicrous statement. 

Like wise hating all jews just because they are jews and not realizing that they are for helping Palestinians. 

I mean look at this vandalizing just because they are jews:

New York City Jewish bakery vandalized with spray-painted graffiti: 'Free Gaza'

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/new-york-city-jewish-bakery-vandalized-with-spray-painted-graffiti-free-gaza

 

They forget who the bad guy really is. It's what stems from far right ideology.