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[Vesper 28,801]

Democrats have lost the US Senate

impossible with the races left for them to keep control

[Vesper 28,801]

5 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

went red as well now on the map

yep

was never in doubt

that Selzer poll was a massive outlier and fail

her reputation is now in the mud

she was crazy to put her name to a clearly and profoundly flawed poll

so stupid, and from a previously brilliant political prognosticator

 

[cosmicway 1,323]

Trump held office for four shaky years, covid and all that.
His plan to make the world go fascist did n't march forward.
Will he do it now ?
Given sufficient money it can be done.

[NikkiCFC 7,950]

Fucking rednecks. 

[NikkiCFC 7,950]

How can you be latino and vote for Trump after all that shit he said about Mexico, Haiti, Puerto Rico and immigrants?

[Vesper 28,801]

well

looks my 'maximal Trump EV win' map is exactly what is probably going to happen

[cosmicway 1,323]

10 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

How can you be latino and vote for Trump after all that shit he said about Mexico, Haiti, Puerto Rico and immigrants?

The target population for the racists of America is the Latinos !
Not the muslims so much, not the Jews, not the blacks.
But those who vote rep are in Florida most of them I believe, the exiles from Cuba.

[Vesper 28,801]

I am calling it

Trumps wins

and he somewhat likely wins the popular vote as well

the Dems have lost the US Senate

and probably do not take the US House back

dog help the planet

[Vesper 28,801]

[cosmicway 1,323]

The east coast blue wall has shrunk to a little hut in the countryside.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,919]

16 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

How can you be latino and vote for Trump after all that shit he said about Mexico, Haiti, Puerto Rico and immigrants?

Latinos view themselves, for the most part, as temporarily embarrassed white men. 

 

Trump, when he calls them rapists, is viewed as a man telling it how it is because they agree with him about people who look like them. Its also why so many black men were quick to agree with Obama calling them sexist for not being excited about Kamala.....despite the fact they overwhelmingly voted for hillary(and kamala tonight). He probably cost her votes there too. You can only play on a marginalized group's self hate for so long. Trump just got lucky tonight.

[cosmicway 1,323]

PA result worse than Georgia which was never thought going blue.

Edited November 6 by cosmicway

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,919]

4 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

PA result worse than Georgia which was never thought going blue.

Before that girl got killed at UGA by the undocumented Venezuelan Georgia could have been in play.

[Vesper 28,801]

early post-mortem

what killed Harris (and she did run a near perfect campaign given what she had to work with, so cannot blame that)

 

the gender gap, men out-roared women (massive change for the young males of all races especially)

 

she got clobbered (for a Dem) with

latinos (especially latino men)

black men

asians (especially asian men)

 

the economy perceptions killed her everywhere

 

immigration (Trump OWNED her there)

 

Biden's 'garbage gaff' which was misquoted but stuck, and helped fuel a late Red surge

 

the tens of thousands of anti trans attack adverts (and thsoe also smashed a lot of Dem Seante and House candidates)

 

plain old racism and misogyny still has a huge grip and really hurt her with all minority groups and men, and even with many moderate women

Edited November 6 by Vesper

[Vesper 28,801]

Dem US House win in a major swing district that they desperately needed

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,919]

2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

early post-mortem

what killed Harris (and she did run a near perfect campaign given what she had to work with, so cannot blame that)

 

the gender gap, men out-roared women (massive change for the young males of all races especially)

 

she got clobbered (for a Dem) with

latinos (especially latino men)

black men

asians (especially asian men)

 

the economy perceptions killed her everywhere

 

immigration (Trump OWNED her there)

 

Biden's 'garbage gaff' which was misquoted but stuck, and helped fuel a late Red surge

 

the tens of thousands of anti trans attack adverts (and thsoe also smashed a lot of Dem Seante and House candidates)

 

plain old racism and misogyny still has a huge grip and really hurt her with all minority groups and men, and even with many moderate women

I think she needed a true primary. A time where we could have really got to know her and saw her tested against competition. Folks just didnt really know the true her. I'd like to see her run it back again in 4 years. I think going through a primary after growing, becoming more well-known, could do her a world of good. Nixon needed 1960 to have his 1968. She can come back from this.

[cosmicway 1,323]

10 minutes ago, Vesper said:

early post-mortem

what killed Harris (and she did run a near perfect campaign given what she had to work with, so cannot blame that)

 

the gender gap, men out-roared women (massive change for the young males of all races especially)

 

she got clobbered (for a Dem) with

latinos (especially latino men)

black men

asians (especially asian men)

 

the economy perceptions killed her everywhere

 

Biden's 'garbage gaff' which was misquoted but stuck, and help fuel a late Red surge

 

the tens of thousands of anti trans attack adverts (and thsoe also smashed a lot of Dem Seante and House candidates)

 

plain old racism and misogyny still has a huge grip and really hurt her with all minority groups and men, and even with many moderate women

I don't live in America, never lived, so I can't be accurate about these things.
Clearly a dem party weak on racism in order to catch up with Trump is not a dem party I would like to see.
But of course that counted, once Trump encouraged the racists to do their coming out, emerge from the closets.
The dems could have won some of the lost ground by returning to Christian values - they allowd convicted felon-sex offender Trump to pretend he is a Christian !

Edited November 6 by cosmicway

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,919]

North Carolina gone.