Manuf 1,448 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 I was surprised when Alex left the club, he was a top defender who knew how to strike a free-kick!...the only thing he lost was a bit of pace & he was made the scapegoat of AvB's high-line problems at Chelsea.yeah, i too at the time rated him more than any of our defenders back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svita 10 186 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 I love him so much, hope he will be our captain one day :blue scalf: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 I was surprised when Alex left the club, he was a top defender who knew how to strike a free-kick!...the only thing he lost was a bit of pace & he was made the scapegoat of AvB's high-line problems at Chelsea.very differnt from cahill as well. alex was a beast. cahill's other con is he can be shrugged off as he is not exactly huge. alex on the other hand was a tank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 One factor of Cahill's play that I do not like is his style and tendency to constantly backs off opponent that runs at him. As I was talking to SeB the other day about this, he is probably waiting for the right time to make the tackle and not commit rash challenges like Luiz leading to giving away fouls in dangerous free kicks. While that is a fair point, constantly backing off is not helpful because more often than not, you're gonna allow the opponent to have a free shot at goal without any pressure and this happened quite a bit against Spurs last weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/gary-cahill-reveals-frustration-at-roberto-1403178Gary Cahill has revealed he has become frustrated by Roberto Di Matteo’s defensive rotation policy at Chelsea.Central defender Cahill will step back into the team to partner David Luiz against Manchester United today after sitting out the Champions League defeat by Shakhtar Donetsk.Captain John Terry’s four-game ban for racially abusing Anton Ferdinand has guaranteed Cahill a run of Premier League games.But the 26-year-old is concerned he is too often made the odd man out.Cahill has made seven starts this season, but sat out of big games against Juventus, Arsenal and Shakhtar. Luiz, whose form remains erratic, has started 11 games.“It has been frustrating for me at times this season, I’m not going to lie – like on Tuesday night in the Champions League, the rotating,” Cahill told Sunday Mirror Sport. “I think you can accept it if you are playing the same amount of games as everybody else. That’s the only way you can come to terms with it.”Asked if he believes he should be given a greater share of the action, Cahill reiterated: “That’s how you come to terms with it.”On his partnership with Luiz, Cahill added: “It seems to have gone well. But it’s gone well whatever pairings have been put out. I’ve done well with JT or David. I enjoy playing with both.”Don't blame him for feeling frustrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamiCFC9 258 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Let's just say before this match I was wondering why is he behind Luiz and JT in the pecking order but now I understand.He is great but kinda green for such clashes, will become hell of a defender no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Poor performance from both him and D. Luiz. Still don't think he makes more than a good back-up. Leaving me to repeat my wish on the club targetting a new CB in the summer. Peace. and laura90 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I think the thing with Cahill is a lot of fans wrote him off before he arrived, saying he is "only a Bolton player" etc etc, which was harsh and after a few good displays it went to far the other way "next JT" "new captain" etc etc etc. It was almost like some CFC fans wanted to compensate for the one's that dismissed him before he came through the Cobham door.Cannot question his attitude and commitment, but for a team that want's to win titles, the best he can be is a (very good) squad player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Poor performance from both him and D. Luiz. Still don't think he makes more than a good back-up. Leaving me to repeat my wish on the club targetting a new CB in the summer.I don't think the constant chopping and changing to our back 4 is helping him and the rest of the defenders. The confusion between him and Ivanovic for Van Persie's goal summed it all up. Both just left him to each other thinking they will pick him up but in the end, nobody did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Really had a bad game, hope he makes up for it on Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Really had a bad game, hope he makes up for it on Wednesday.doesn't help when he's got a ticking time-bomb for a partner in defence laura90 and Hannah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laeth 527 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 RvP ripped him a new arsehole for that second goal. Didn't have a clue where he went. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 doesn't help when he's got a ticking time-bomb for a partner in defenceDoesn't excuse his terrible positioning for the first two goals and that terrible piece of 'defending' that forced Iva's red card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Doesn't excuse his terrible positioning for the first two goals and that terrible piece of 'defending' that forced Iva's red card.true. defence crumbled once united got into that space between the defence and midfield. between luiz going after the ball and cahill backing off away from it, we conceded 2 goals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I don't think the constant chopping and changing to our back 4 is helping him and the rest of the defenders. The confusion between him and Ivanovic for Van Persie's goal summed it all up. Both just left him to each other thinking they will pick him up but in the end, nobody did!That's true but still. We've had some fine defenders at the club in the past 10-15 years and I honestly don't think Cahill is one of them. He's solid for the most part but at this level you need more than just solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 doesn't help when he's got a ticking time-bomb for a partner in defenceor maybe Cahill brings the worst out of Luiz too? How many of Luiz's bad performances come partnered with Terry or even Ivanovic? hardly any of them.Cahill and Luiz don't work as a partnership, they are both as responsible for that as each other.Cahill has been hyped up as some world builder since he has joined us, he has been far from that, he has his good games, but his bad games should have age restrictions on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land 331 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 doesn't help when he's got a ticking time-bomb for a partner in defenceThat's a ridiculous statement, Cahill could be playing with Thiago Silva and he would still not be able to mark RVP on that second goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 That's a ridiculous statement, Cahill could be playing with Thiago Silva and he would still not be able to mark RVP on that second goalnah. they don't work well together is what i meant. one goes after the ball (luiz) and cahill prefers backing away. i mean they look disoriented in defence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 or maybe Cahill brings the worst out of Luiz too? How many of Luiz's bad performances come partnered with Terry or even Ivanovic? hardly any of them.Cahill and Luiz don't work as a partnership, they are both as responsible for that as each other.Cahill has been hyped up as some world builder since he has joined us, he has been far from that, he has his good games, but his bad games should have age restrictions on them.true. Cahill is not a beast of a defender but sadly he's the best in the squad right now. terry is getting old and his movement has reduced considerably while luiz gets flustered when the heat is on him. goes braindead. it's happened far too many times now. every time we think he'll improve and he plays a few good games against qpr, stoke etc but then when we face mancity, arsenal or manunited again, he is bypassed easily. cahill's errors on the other hand are not closing his attacker down. he is easily turned and doesn't have good organisation and positioning like JT. but he is the better defender among the 3. quick, calm, strong(ish) and reliable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 true. Cahill is not a beast of a defender but sadly he's the best in the squad right now. terry is getting old and his movement has reduced considerably while luiz gets flustered when the heat is on him. goes braindead. it's happened far too many times now. every time we think he'll improve and he plays a few good games against qpr, stoke etc but then when we face mancity, arsenal or manunited again, he is bypassed easily.cahill's errors on the other hand are not closing his attacker down. he is easily turned and doesn't have good organisation and positioning like JT. but he is the better defender among the 3. quick, calm, strong(ish) and reliableCahill makes a lot of error's, the only reason they don't get noticed as much as Luiz's is because Gary's are more tactical, whereas Luiz's are more mistimed.Terry imo is still the best centre half out of the three by a country mile. He may not be as good as he was but my god we need him to keep those two on a leash. CHOULO19, Strike, DYC. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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