Gilvorak 3,734 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 He better be dropped. Cost us today him and Mata. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Another world-class performance today, absolutely flawless, the only lock in our first 11, the shirt is his week in week out.He was actually very poor compared to his recent games. Now the question is whether that was the result of the system or an off-day.Considering the number of players who put in sub-par performances one might suspect it might be due to either Mourinho's changes in the team he played, or Pardew's tactics to combat them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Why does he start week in, week out?My theory that he has a secret love affair with Jose seems to look like it might actually have some substance. ChelseasMessiah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Why does he start week in, week out?My theory that he has a secret love affair with Jose seems to look like it might actually have some substance.Because we've been winning week in and week out, and he's put in good performances in those games. I don't think that theory has any substance, but you were against Jose coming back so I can understand why you'd look to besmirch him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 He did ok the problems were elsewhere ,I am sure had he playerd further forward he would have done better than Oscar and Mata who were lost ,nobody had a shot at goal it was awful . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 He was actually very poor compared to his recent games. Now the question is whether that was the result of the system or an off-day.Considering the number of players who put in sub-par performances one might suspect it might be due to either Mourinho's changes in the team he played, or Pardew's tactics to combat them. I'll give you a hint, he's 35 and even at his peak he was never mobile, and is now being played in a role he has absolutely no business being in. The attacking players usually paper over his cracks but that didn't happen today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Because we've been winning week in and week out, and he's put in good performances in those games. I don't think that theory has any substance, but you were against Jose coming back so I can understand why you'd look to besmirch him.Yeah, like the masterclass at City last week, he was so good Mourinho took him out 10 minutes into the second half, just like today, I now just hope he out for good, other players don't even make the bench and yet Lampard gets a carte blanche every fucking week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 I'll give you a hint, he's 35 and even at his peak he was never mobile, and is now being played in a role he has absolutely no business being in. The attacking players usually paper over his cracks but that didn't happen today.I agree with the second bit that the attacking midfielders were often far too distant from the pivot and that even Rami was nowhere near his imperious best.Your first point is a little bit unnecessary too be honest, and a tad rude. ChelseasMessiah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 He could be 55 he would be more mobile than Mikel . The pivot was not to blame for that performance ,Lampard would have done much better than Oscar and Mata today further forward ,they were both abysmal . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Yeah, like the masterclass at City last week, he was so good Mourinho took him out 10 minutos into the second half, justlike today, I now just hope he out for good, other players don't even make the bench and yet Lampard gets a carte blanche everyb fucking week.He played well against City, but even that was a step-down on the performances he'd put in before that. Again it's very easy for some people to get a little excitable and become prisoners of the moment. It's a long season and we'll bounce back from this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Because we've been winning week in and week out, and he's put in good performances in those games. I don't think that theory has any substance, but you were against Jose coming back so I can understand why you'd look to besmirch him.Well Jose is the one who keeps picking him all the time. Yet other players seem to be the ones who get dropped at random (e.g Schurrle), its seems weird that Lampard never gets the same treatment. ChelseasMessiah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 I agree with the second bit that the attacking midfielders were often far too distant from the pivot and that even Rami was nowhere near his imperious best.Your first point is a little bit unnecessary too be honest, and a tad rude. Ramires was nowhere his best because he was playing deep when Lampard was on, who else is gonna cover for him? Ramires was completely shackled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Ramires and Oscar were poor too, but Lamps really needs to improve. He hasn't been the best this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Some players had a sub-par today, but he and Oscar were just awful. Had we made the Schurrle for Lampard sub at HT and Willian for Oscar not Mata we probably would have avoided defeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Ramires and Oscar were really poor but Lampard was absent and thats the worst thing one can say about a midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Well Jose is the one who keeps picking him all the time. Yet other players seem to be the ones who get dropped at random (e.g Schurrle), its seems weird that Lampard never gets the same treatment.Schurrle gets dropped because we have Willian and Mata on the bench (although I didn't agree with him being dropped).Lamps doesn't get dropped because we don't have Alonso or Witsel on the bench. Ramires was nowhere his best because he was playing deep when Lampard was on, who else is gonna cover for him? Ramires was completely shackled.So you can blame Rami's poor game on Lamps, but Lamps gets judged in isolation? Personally I think the whole team looked like last year's team because we went with Mata and Oscar in last year's positions. Right now, Oscar simply can't be dropped because he's too important to EVERYTHING we do as a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Very glad that Jose did not bring on Mikel though despite a very poor performance today by the team , I would have taken Oscar off and put Lamps in the AM position we did not have one shot on goal from distance ,Oscar and Mata were the real culprits both were awful . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Schurrle gets dropped because we have Willian and Mata on the bench (although I didn't agree with him being dropped).Lamps doesn't get dropped because we don't have Alonso or Witsel on the bench. So you can blame Rami's poor game on Lamps, but Lamps gets judged in isolation? Personally I think the whole team looked like last year's team because we went with Mata and Oscar in last year's positions. Right now, Oscar simply can't be dropped because he's too important to EVERYTHING we do as a team.But that means a complete disregard for form of an individual player. And its not like Ramires and Lampard are only central midfield option. We do have Mikel and Essien, and even some young promising players like Ake that can fit in there. If Lampard is playing shit you drop him and try something else, and this is not an isolated incident, but a few matches this season he hasn't really showed up. So try something else, surely that should be a given when managing a team that anybody can understand? Amblève. and ChelseasMessiah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 But that means a complete disregard for form of an individual player.No it doesn't. It just requires something beyond a knee-jerk reaction to a player's performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Maybe he is still our best goalscorer ,because today we were awful in front of goal ,did anybody shoot in the whole match you cant score from the pivot when you are asked to back up the play ,our front three were ineffective ,although Hazard did well . WHERE WERE THE SHOTS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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