Global Revolution

[LDN Blue 7,903]

When you're the strongest and richest free country in the world, you have a moral obligation to protect freedom around the world. This isn't to say that the US hasn't made some bad decisions, I'll be the first to admit that. But the issues with nukes is only a means to ensure that Isreal has an equal show of force to Iran. If Iran is going to flaunt its nuclear program while declaring their wish for Isreal to be blown off the face of the earth, then Isreal needs to show an equal military force to keep that crazy President in Tehran at bay.

The Israeli government, are terrorists.

[Kieran. 6,317]

Fuck the Israeli agenda.

I come from a town full of Jewish people, so I'm called an anti-semite all the time. Only my close Jewish friends are open-minded enough to know that I'm anti-Zionist, not anti-semetic.

[dave30 728]

The Israeli government, are terrorists.

by who's definition yours ? one member of the British public who's views are representative of very few. Contrast this to the many,many countries across the World who recognize Israel as a democratic and legitimate Country. Each of whom having made this policy clear have been elected by their respective electorates.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

by who's definition yours ? one member of the British public who's views are representative of very few. Contrast this to the many,many countries across the World who recognize Israel as a democratic and legitimate Country. Each of whom having made this policy clear have been elected by their respective electorates.

Their government openly admits to a genocidal policy. Free the people of Palestine.

..A real country. With a real history and a real civilisation.

[Fulham Broadway 16,858]

Israel have over 200+ nukes, the US lobby group AIPAC http://www.aipac.org/ and the British ''Friends of Israel'' http://www2.cfoi.co.uk/ control whats really going on in terms of Middle East foreign policy

As Palestinian young people courageously face the violence of Israel’s blood-racism, carrying the keys of their grandparents’ stolen homes, they are not even included in Mr. Hopey Changey’s (this is ted ralls name for obama) list of peoples in the Middle East whose liberation is long overdue. What the oppressed need, he said on 19 May, is a dose of "America’s interests are essential to them". He insults us all.

[warnie_666 1,081]

ow but of course India's foreign policy has always been a constant example of peaceful perfection. It wasn't so long ago your politicians were having to dispute claims India was a "US puppet". And as for Israel i read a article very recently that described Indian-Israeli relations as "strong but low key" i have big respect for India and dont believe you are US puppets, but lets not blame the UK for this so called "fiasco" ...

India was not and and will never be a US puppet. Out relations have always been inclined to Soviets and current Russia. The incident you are talking about is the nuclear deal that india signed with US giving US government contractors multiple million dollar deals to build nuclear reactors for power generation.

Sorry to offend you but the whole world knows that UK is a puppet of US if not then you wouldn't have followed them to the gulf war in the last two decades and not to mention the Afghanistan invasion. Had your government had a spine you wouldn't have had the bus bombings. Also UK followed US in putting sanctions on IRAN due to their pursuit in building the nuclear bomb and hence the protests. So yeah your government is to be blamed for this fiasco.

I thought the British hated their government for being a puppet of US. But you seem to be living in denial.

US asked india to join the coalition forces in invasion of Afghan but india refused. so you really can't call them a puppet no matter what the corrupt politicians in India say

[YankinBlue42 72]

India was not and and will never be a US puppet. Out relations have always been inclined to Soviets and current Russia. The incident you are talking about is the nuclear deal that india signed with US giving US government contractors multiple million dollar deals to build nuclear reactors for power generation.

Sorry to offend you but the whole world knows that UK is a puppet of US if not then you wouldn't have followed them to the gulf war in the last two decades and not to mention the Afghanistan invasion. Had your government had a spine you wouldn't have had the bus bombings. Also UK followed US in putting sanctions on IRAN due to their pursuit in building the nuclear bomb and hence the protests. So yeah your government is to be blamed for this fiasco.

I thought the British hated their government for being a puppet of US. But you seem to be living in denial.

US asked india to join the coalition forces in invasion of Afghan but india refused. so you really can't call them a puppet no matter what the corrupt politicians in India say

So you agree with your country's tendancies to be aligned with Russia, as opposed to other, democratic global powers?

[warnie_666 1,081]

So you agree with your country's tendancies to be aligned with Russia, as opposed to other, democratic global powers?

Yes..Soviet Russia has played a huge role in

Making india the country it is both defense and economy wise

[warnie_666 1,081]

Their government openly admits to a genocidal policy. Free the people of Palestine.

..A real country. With a real history and a real civilisation.

Slight Correction here....Judaism is the oldest religion along with Hinduism. Islam which is the religion of Palestine is a byproduct of Judaism. So, the place actually belonged to Jewish people. And the real history that you are talking about has originated from these very people and the religion you are blaming. The real civilization in this case is actually the Jewish, rest all are byproducts.

But, this was during the ancient period. In this new age, what the west did was wrong. No matter what the history says, to drive out people belonging to another religion inorder to make place for Jewish settlers because that was the birth place of Judaism, is WRONG.

If only Hitler was not so anti Jewish the world would have been a better place to live...

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Slight Correction here....Judaism is the oldest religion along with Hinduism. Islam which is the religion of Palestine is a byproduct of Judaism. So, the place actually belonged to Jewish people. And the real history that you are talking about has originated from these very people and the religion you are blaming. The real civilization in this case is actually the Jewish, rest all are byproducts.

But, this was during the ancient period. In this new age, what the west did was wrong. No matter what the history says, to drive out people belonging to another religion inorder to make place for Jewish settlers because that was the birth place of Judaism, is WRONG.

If only Hitler was not so anti Jewish the world would have been a better place to live...

Jews who use Hitler's actions as justification to run riot over a country called Palestine are an insult to their ancestors who died under Hitler's reign. If not, worse.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

When you're the strongest and richest free country in the world, you have a moral obligation to protect freedom around the world. This isn't to say that the US hasn't made some bad decisions, I'll be the first to admit that. But the issues with nukes is only a means to ensure that Isreal has an equal show of force to Iran. If Iran is going to flaunt its nuclear program while declaring their wish for Isreal to be blown off the face of the earth, then Isreal needs to show an equal military force to keep that crazy President in Tehran at bay.

:o :o You are one deluded man, my friend!

1. Though the US might be the most powerful country, it does have the biggest debt in history making it far far away from the richest country in the world.

2. Moral obligations? Are you serious? You are talking about the country that is responsible about the biggest massacres in history when they used the atomic bombs on Japan. The protectors of freedom back dictatorial hierarchies throughout the world (Joradn, KSA, Qatar...etc) and recently ordered (yes I mean literally ordered) the Saudi army into Bahrain to slaughter peaceful protesters.

3. Israel has had Nukes way before Iran started their nuclear program. As a matter of fact Israel had nukes even before the Islamic revolution; and back then Iran was in America's, and Israel's pocket, so you can't really say that they have nukes to defend against Iran. The Israeli arsenal has always been a way to terrorize the middle eastern countries, why else would they have over 200 nukes, enough to blow more than half of earth off?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

by who's definition yours ? one member of the British public who's views are representative of very few. Contrast this to the many,many countries across the World who recognize Israel as a democratic and legitimate Country. Each of whom having made this policy clear have been elected by their respective electorates.

Define terrorism.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Slight Correction here....Judaism is the oldest religion along with Hinduism. Islam which is the religion of Palestine is a byproduct of Judaism. So, the place actually belonged to Jewish people. And the real history that you are talking about has originated from these very people and the religion you are blaming. The real civilization in this case is actually the Jewish, rest all are byproducts.

What does religion have to do with civilization? Can you say that christians in america and christians in africa have the same civilization? In my opinion, the civilization of a certain geographic region belongs to the people who live there. In the case of Palestine, though the religions in the area may be a byproduct of Judaism, the civilization belongs to the people who have been living there for over 1400 years, whilst the Jews who replaced the original inhabitants are from civilizations from all over the world and know very little about the regions history and civilization and over the last thousand years or so, contributed nothing to it.

Also for historical accuracy, the Palestinians, that is the inhabitants of Jerusalem before world war I, were not only muslims. The multi-religion area was also a home for christians and Jews, who were thrown out of their homes in 1948 just like their muslim friends and neighbors.

[YankinBlue42 72]

:o :o You are one deluded man, my friend!

1. Though the US might be the most powerful country, it does have the biggest debt in history making it far far away from the richest country in the world.

2. Moral obligations? Are you serious? You are talking about the country that is responsible about the biggest massacres in history when they used the atomic bombs on Japan. The protectors of freedom back dictatorial hierarchies throughout the world (Joradn, KSA, Qatar...etc) and recently ordered (yes I mean literally ordered) the Saudi army into Bahrain to slaughter peaceful protesters.

3. Israel has had Nukes way before Iran started their nuclear program. As a matter of fact Israel had nukes even before the Islamic revolution; and back then Iran was in America's, and Israel's pocket, so you can't really say that they have nukes to defend against Iran. The Israeli arsenal has always been a way to terrorize the middle eastern countries, why else would they have over 200 nukes, enough to blow more than half of earth off?

1. Our debt is only a problem because the idiots in Washington feel that protecting their political future is more important than the country's finances. A modest increase in yearly revenue and decrease in spending (not to mention ending the wars in Iraq and Afganistan) would erase our debt in less than a decade.

2. You make your claims about our moral decisions without providing any counterpoints or context. You also forgot to mention that the Allies including your own country supported the effort to build a nuclear weapon and use it. The question of how to handle dictators around the world in our present time is a massively complex one. You can disagree with attempts to appease certain dictators in hopes they treat their people fairly, because no one wants to go to war. In this so-called Arab spring, the US has had to tread carefully, but in many ways, some very subtle, has supported the people's revolution, even if it meant that the new goverment would not be a guarenteed friend of the US (see Egypt).

My "moral obligations" statement wasn't to say that the US is the moral leader of the world. It was a general statement that the US is looked upon to be a leader in the fight for democracy. Has been since the first 2 world wars. Depending on your view point, we have done some terrible things. But no country is above that. You can be appalled at the use of the atom bomb, and I can say that using the atom bomb saved lives, when you consider the atrocities happening in China at the time and how many military and civilian lives would've been lost in a ground invasion of mainland Japan.

3. I'll take you on your word regarding the history of nukes and Isreal. But the question remains, why should they dismantle their nuclear program when they have a sworn enemy with nuclear capibilities within missile range?

[warnie_666 1,081]

There is no way on earth that US is going to erase the debt in next two decade let alone next decade. Economy is slow. Banks are suffering from the after effects of the recession. Steps are already being undertaken to reduce the debt. For Example some of the Islands off the coast of Rhode Island have been set up for auctions by the US government.

To Choulo:

It's easy to blame the US for Nagasaki and Hiroshima but that incident bought Japan to it's knees. The atrocities that Japanese committed during the invasion of China were unpardonable and inhiman compared to the Atomic Bomb. Read about Nanking Massacre. Also,They used chemical and biological weapons on Chinese and I am sure you had no clue about this. Not to mention the unprovoked attack on Pearl Harbor.

[warnie_666 1,081]

What does religion have to do with civilization? Can you say that christians in america and christians in africa have the same civilization? In my opinion, the civilization of a certain geographic region belongs to the people who live there. In the case of Palestine, though the religions in the area may be a byproduct of Judaism, the civilization belongs to the people who have been living there for over 1400 years, whilst the Jews who replaced the original inhabitants are from civilizations from all over the world and know very little about the regions history and civilization and over the last thousand years or so, contributed nothing to it.

Jews replaced the "Original" inhabitants? I am sorry but the original inhabitants of that place are Jewish. Later people adopted Islam and Christianity and continued to live there. But I agree that it is wrong to drive people who have been living there for several years because the land beloved to the Jews Originally.

History has it that the most oppressed race or country end up becoming the most ruthless one. Jews and Israel. The size of the nation is small but they have are ruthless when it comes to dealing with their enemies. Sure they have the backing of US as most of the Lobbyist in US are Jews and that's where the money comes from.

China is the other one. For long the country had been vandalized by the Jap imperialist army.

Read: Nanking Massacre on wiki and you will know that the Japanese Army back then were inhuman and barbaric.

60 yrs on China is a country even the US does not want to mess with. What the Israelis and the Chinese went through have made them what they are today.

[dave30 728]

Well my town has just stopped Tesco from building a massive ugly superstore that would kill off our high street.So i guess i could get used to this Global Revolution

[LDN Blue 7,903]

It's easy to blame the US for Nagasaki and Hiroshima but that incident bought Japan to it's knees. The atrocities that Japanese committed during the invasion of China were unpardonable and inhiman compared to the Atomic Bomb. Read about Nanking Massacre. Also,They used chemical and biological weapons on Chinese and I am sure you had no clue about this. Not to mention the unprovoked attack on Pearl Harbor.

Dear lord man..

You're not actually attempting to justifying and finding a positive from Nagasaki & Hiroshima are you?