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Take Iran for example, although I'm not a fan of the ideology they wish to impose or their extremism, I can understand their need to defend themselves. They are hated by the biggest powers in the world for rebelling against a dictator far worse than Saddam, and neighbored by Israel, their enemy who happens to be the biggest military force in the region. It is only normal for them to be intimidated and seek means that ensure their survival.

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On a side note, you should know that the US is more likely to provide Al Qaeda with weapons (seeing as Bin Laden has fought with American weapons before when the now "terrorist" jihadists in Afghanistan had the financial and military backing the soviet Union in the 70s and 80s) than Iran. Iran and Al Qaeda are complete opposites. Iran are Shi'a and Al Qaeda are Sunna extremists. They hate Iran even more than they hate the west.

1. Like I said in my first post. Every country has the right to build their power. India built their nuclear armory but the world although initially did have problems they do veleive that india is a responsible state and has a no first use policy. Pakistan on the other hand is a mess and has no first use policy. Iran is run by a dictator. It is not a democracy out there.

Ok al Qaeda was a wrong example but try do have links to jehadist groups. AQ Khan sold the technology to north Korea and Iran who is to say that Iran won't sell it to other nations?

US may have a large stock of nuclear arms but they won't use it. He'll they didn't use it at the peak of cold war against the soviets what makes you think they will use it against the weak nations they can destroy with their tomahawks and B2 bombers. Use of nuclear weapons is a desperate act an act that a weaker nation would commit if it thinks that they can't match the strength of the powerful nation

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To be honest, I hate the idea of anyone having nuclear weapons. But who are the West to tell other countries not to bare their own, if we in turn do ourselves?

America used nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, who punished them? They use radioactive weapons in Iraq, who punished them? It's typical Western hypocrisy. I'd love to live in a world where there were no nuclear weapons, unfortunately they've developed the technology.

I'd love a world without hypocrisy....

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1. Well it gives them every right to put a stop on Iran nuclear program. Look at Pakistan. The only reason the world can't touch them inspite of being a haven for terrorists is because they have nuclear weapons. They were hiding Osama for years right next to the Pak Army base. These are fucking rogue nations. I am an India from US and I wished Pak wasn't a nuclear power. They had the nuclear vessels ready to launch when they were getting their arses wooped in Kargil. US and the world DOES NOT want another Pakistan in the middle east. Iran is a hardcore Islamist state with an anti west agenda. They may not launch the attack themselves but have the al Qaida lauch it.

America is hardcore capitalist state with an anti-Islamic state agenda. Do you see how everything you claim Iran is, the same can be said about America in the same perspective?

Oh by the way, India has terrorists too.

2. White phosphorus is an incendiary weapon just like napalm and was used to flush out the terrorists hiding in the holes. They aren't exactly chemical weapons. You know what a chemical weapon is? A mustard gas is termed as a chemical weapon. Saddam used it on kurdish civilians and that has left several of them deformed and dead.

Have you ever seen the effects of white phosphorus? It's inhumane & it has long term effects on victims, research it if you don't believe me. I'm not saying Saddam didn't play dirty, but don't paint America as heroes for using similar tactics against innocent Iraqi's.

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1.America is hardcore capitalist state with an anti-Islamic state agenda. Do you see how everything you claim Iran is, the same can be said about America in the same perspective?

2.Oh by the way, India has terrorists too.

3.Have you ever seen the effects of white phosphorus? It's inhumane & it has long term effects on victims, research it if you don't believe me. I'm not saying Saddam didn't play dirty, but don't paint America as heroes for using similar tactics against innocent Iraqi's.

1. I never said the Americans are saints. Not sure about the anti Islamic agenda as Saudis and kuwaitis would choose to disagree. Also I don't always beleive what I see. I have a soft corner for the Palestine people. But not Iran. I have Iranian friends an they have told me how crazy the nation is under a crazy leader. Add to that how Iran handled the protests after ahmednijad got himself re elected. It is not different to Taliban except that it is a bit more reformed.

2. No shit. All countries have terrorists. But there are countries that are responsible and there are countries that are rogue and irresponsible.

3. Like I said white phosphorous is NOT a chemical weapon but an incendiary weapon like napalm. It burns your skin. The US army was wrong to use it in civilian territories but they did it to bring out the terrorists hiding behind innocent civilians. To say that US used similar tactics to saddam is just outright ridiculous. Saddam gased the Kurdish civilians. That was an act of genocide. US didn't target innocent civilians. The terrorists were hiding behind innocent civilians in their houses. The use of white phosphorous or napalm is nt prohibited by any law as long as it is used in an act of war against another belligerent. The use of chemical weapons on the other hand is prohibited.

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There is more possibility of terrorist orgs funded by pak, iran , north korea launching a nuclear attack on west than west launching a nuclear attack on Iran, pak, north Korea.

What US did was more than 60 years back and since then no state has used the nuclear weapon. But non state actors funded by those rogue nations are a major threat. They don't care about civilians. If those rogue nations can safeguard their weapons then there should be no problem but tere is no guarantee tht they will.

One terror/nuclear attack by a non state actor funded by rogue nations can trigger a nuclear war between the nuclear powers.

I am not sure what radioactive weapons US uses in Iraq. Care to elaborate on that? But I am sure saddam used chemical weapons on Kurds. So it is even I guess...

Depleted Uranium, which the U.S used in both conflicts in Iraq in early 90's and from 2003 on, has left parts of Iraq contaminated with radioactivity, especially it's use in shelling Fallujah. It has led to increased cancer rates, higher deformities and abnormalities in babies born to parents exposed to these weapons, much similar to the use of the rainbow herbicides such as agent Orange used in Vietnam.

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Iran is not a rogue but will soon be. Partially democratic? Really? It is as fake as Kim kardsashians ass. Thousands protested when ahmednijad got himself re elected the protests were huge and the govt banned the media from sending the images of atrocity outside Iran.

It is easy to say they attack countries for oil. Does Afghanistan float on oil? Saudi Arabia floats on oil, Kuwait does. US has the worlds largest untapped oil resources in Alaska. It has become a norm to blame everything on oil. Which is silly. IRan like I said is a hardcore Islamist state. The world turned a blind eye to Pakistan when they built their nuclear armory. The world cannot afford another Pakistan. Like I said every country has the right to defend themselves only if they guarantee the safety of true weapons. But countries like north Korea, Pak, Iran cannot be trusted.

Afghanistan has one of the largest untapped gas reserves in the entire world, their plan was to build that pipeline. So they could get oil from Iraq and Gas from Afghanistan.

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An hour back British embassy in Tehran was stormed by hardline Iranian Students and apparently they have taken the embassy officials as hostages.

Reminds me of the US embassy take over during the Islamic Revolution.

There were cries of 'Death to England' as they stormed the embassy.

This is going to get nasty..

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An hour back British embassy in Tehran was stormed by hardline Iranian Students and apparently they have taken the embassy officials as hostages.

Reminds me of the US embassy take over during the Islamic Revolution.

There were cries of 'Death to England' as they stormed the embassy.

This is going to get nasty..

Why does America feel like it can tell each country if they can have a nuke or not when in the same breathe they GIVE nukes to Israel. If they deem the government as a ''dictatorship'' they just say no you cant have this and you cant have that.

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Why does America feel like it can tell each country if they can have a nuke or not when in the same breathe they GIVE nukes to Israel. If they deem the government as a ''dictatorship'' they just say no you cant have this and you cant have that.

Why does UK govt have to be bow down to the US on every single foreign policy. If the UK govt had a spine this wouldn't have happened. So let's not blame US for this fiasco..

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Why does UK govt have to be bow down to the US on every single foreign policy. If the UK govt had a spine this wouldn't have happened. So let's not blame US for this fiasco..

ow but of course India's foreign policy has always been a constant example of peaceful perfection. It wasn't so long ago your politicians were having to dispute claims India was a "US puppet". And as for Israel i read a article very recently that described Indian-Israeli relations as "strong but low key" i have big respect for India and dont believe you are US puppets, but lets not blame the UK for this so called "fiasco" ...

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Why does America feel like it can tell each country if they can have a nuke or not when in the same breathe they GIVE nukes to Israel. If they deem the government as a ''dictatorship'' they just say no you cant have this and you cant have that.

When you're the strongest and richest free country in the world, you have a moral obligation to protect freedom around the world. This isn't to say that the US hasn't made some bad decisions, I'll be the first to admit that. But the issues with nukes is only a means to ensure that Isreal has an equal show of force to Iran. If Iran is going to flaunt its nuclear program while declaring their wish for Isreal to be blown off the face of the earth, then Isreal needs to show an equal military force to keep that crazy President in Tehran at bay.

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