CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 it makes no sense to have only 2 strikers... strikers get injured quite often imo (don't know why). So it makes no sense we have only two strikers in a 24-man squad. Regardless of the system, there should be three strikers. We don't need three top strikers (that's nearly unrealistic imo) but we could have a world class, a top striker and a squad member striker as we don't exactly have any natural strikers in our Youth that showed they can handle being part of the main team in case any of the two strikers get injured.The issue with that is that the third choice striker would practically be unused during the season unless there are injuries.This season all of our strikers were poor and we never really had a first choice striker, but still we ended up with Ba not getting much minutes. Imagine how that will be when we have some like Costa who will start every single match unless he is injured or unless it is a small match that Jose wants to rest him in. Ideally, that third striker would be a youngster who would be on the bench and cover when needed while still playing at times with the U21s to stay fresh, but we all know that's not gonna happen at Chelsea. But like I said, Schurrle can cover for emergencies.If Jose can decide to play half the season with only 6 defenders for the 4 positions then I'm sure he could decide to go with two strikers for one position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 The issue with that is that the third choice striker would practically be unused during the season unless there are injuries.This season all of our strikers were poor and we never really had a first choice striker, but still we ended up with Ba not getting much minutes. Imagine how that will be when we have some like Costa who will start every single match unless he is injured or unless it is a small match that Jose wants to rest him in. Ideally, that third striker would be a youngster who would be on the bench and cover when needed while still playing at times with the U21s to stay fresh, but we all know that's not gonna happen at Chelsea. But like I said, Schurrle can cover for emergencies.If Jose can decide to play half the season with only 6 defenders for the 4 positions then I'm sure he could decide to go with two strikers for one position. Tell me which top-10 team in EPL didn't have their strikers injured this season at least once? Etoo, Torres, Daniel, Aguero, Podolski, van Persie, Lukaku, Dzeko, Rodriguez, etc...When it comes to strikers injuries aren't about if, but when... in that case having only two is suicidal imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodIsBlue 291 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 We got pretty lucky with injuries this season, they were pretty much a non-issue. No bad results can be attributed to injury because we never had a spell like Arsenal to justify that excuse. Next season we may not be so lucky... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Tell me which top-10 team in EPL didn't have their strikers injured this season at least once? Etoo, Torres, Daniel, Aguero, Podolski, van Persie, Lukaku, Dzeko, Rodriguez, etc...When it comes to strikers injuries aren't about if, but when... in that case having only two is suicidal imoAnd how often does it happen that a team has two strikers injured at the same time? I thought it was suicidal that we went into the second half of the season with only six defenders, much much more suicidal especially that defenders get injured as often as strikers do, but we did it because we had a settled back four who were going to start every game if fit. That's my point about next season, if we have striker who we know will start every game if fit, then I can see Jose going with only two striker to eliminate some selection headaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Hope we sell in the summer, especially if the Costa rumours are true. We can probably court a £25m+ fee.Spend the money on a CM. Keep Ba and Eto'o.Lol. Yep , this is THE striker we need to sell. Have a lollipop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodIsBlue 291 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 And how often does it happen that a team has two strikers injured at the same time? I thought it was suicidal that we went into the second half of the season with only six defenders, much much more suicidal especially that defenders get injured as often as strikers do, but we did it because we had a settled back four who were going to start every game if fit. That's my point about next season, if we have striker who we know will start every game if fit, then I can see Jose going with only two striker to eliminate some selection headaches. That doesn't leave Mourinho with tactical options when 1 striker is injured however. Eden2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 That doesn't leave Mourinho with tactical options when 1 striker is injured however.Yeah, I said so in the first post. It will depend on whether or not Jose wants to have a plan B involving two strikers on the pitch at the same time because having done a couple of times at the start of the season he seems to have abandoned it till up until the PSG game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 it makes no sense to have only 2 strikers... strikers get injured quite often imo (don't know why). So it makes no sense we have only two strikers in a 24-man squad. Regardless of the system, there should be three strikers. We don't need three top strikers (that's nearly unrealistic imo) but we could have a world class, a top striker and a squad member striker as we don't exactly have any natural strikers in our Youth that showed they can handle being part of the main team in case any of the two strikers get injured.thank god for a post that stopped me getting warned again .. A squad needs 3 Keepers and a MINIMUM of 3 strikers .. if you are playing with one or FOUR if you are playing with two Barbara and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 And how often does it happen that a team has two strikers injured at the same time? I thought it was suicidal that we went into the second half of the season with only six defenders, much much more suicidal especially that defenders get injured as often as strikers do, but we did it because we had a settled back four who were going to start every game if fit. That's my point about next season, if we have striker who we know will start every game if fit, then I can see Jose going with only two striker to eliminate some selection headaches. sweetie, that's the point.If you only have two and one of them is injured, you're screwed because if the guy is having a day off there's no one else to bring. If he feels something during the match - a knock - there's no one else to bring.Seriously, it makes no sense at all to have only two strikers in a 24-man squad.And what do defenders have to do with that? In a 24-man squad there are two players for each position, plus a third GK and a ST, your point being...?Also we have some versatile players such as David Luiz, Oscar, Azpilicueta, Iva - all of which who can play in more than one position decently. The Skipper and Mohammed Seif 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 sweetie, that's the point.If you only have two and one of them is injured, you're screwed because if the guy is having a day off there's no one else to bring. If he feels something during the match - a knock - there's no one else to bring.Seriously, it makes no sense at all to have only two strikers in a 24-man squad.And what do defenders have to do with that? In a 24-man squad there are two players for each position, plus a third GK and a ST, your point being...?Also we have some versatile players such as David Luiz, Oscar, Azpilicueta, Iva - all of which who can play in more than one position decently.Think we've pretty much covered everything about it. Agree to disagree? Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 thank god for a post that stopped me getting warned again .. A squad needs 3 Keepers and a MINIMUM of 3 strikers .. if you are playing with one or FOUR if you are playing with twoI remember we were having a very similar debate in the summer when the club renewed Hilario's contract and I was arguing that Blackman should be third choice while still playing with the U21s and that the renewal was just a waste of money. If I'm not mistakes, Hilario made the bench once this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I remember we were having a very similar debate in the summer when the club renewed Hilario's contract and I was arguing that Blackman should be third choice while still playing with the U21s and that the renewal was just a waste of money. If I'm not mistakes, Hilario made the bench once this season. Blackman was a disaster waiting to happen ... I am serious when I say I would have been happier with JT in goal than Blackman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 What many people don't realize is Eto'o and Ba have a higher minutes per goals ratio than Lukaku. So how good is he really? Good enough to be Diego Costa's understudy, but not good enough to be the main man. The main question is whether Romelu is happy with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 A surprisingly decent article from the Mail:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2597545/THE-NUMBERS-GAME-Why-Lukakus-NOT-right-striker-Chelsea.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Blackman was a disaster waiting to happen ... I am serious when I say I would have been happier with JT in goal than BlackmanGranted he's not at all experienced at this level, but I find that harsh on the boy who has done well for us youth levels. But my point was, the issue with having 3 players for one position is that the third choice player won't be getting any playing time, in fact he might not play at all.I remember under RDM when we even only had two strikers: Torres and Sturrdge and Danny barely got something like 100 minutes off the bench in the first 5 months of the season and not a single start because Robbie decided (rightly or wrongly) that Torres was his first choice striker. I think that something similar will happen if we get a Costa or a Cavani in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 A surprisingly decent article from the Mail:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2597545/THE-NUMBERS-GAME-Why-Lukakus-NOT-right-striker-Chelsea.htmlas usual ...they came to bury Chelsea not to praise us ,,, but unlike Marc Antony they meant it ,,,, AND were so fucking wrong again ... WE are still in there fighting ,, KTBFFH fuck the Mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodIsBlue 291 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 What many people don't realize is Eto'o and Ba have a higher minutes per goals ratio than Lukaku. So how good is he really? Good enough to be Diego Costa's understudy, but not good enough to be the main man. The main question is whether Romelu us happy with that.Yes! Romelu does not hae the ego people think. They this big hulking black man and the silhouette of his dread and they thing they're looking at an ego filled bad ass but they're so wrong, Lukaku is a kid. Hazard is far more badass in his personality. Lukaku is a humble kid who loves to laugh. He knows how unprofessional it would sound for him to demand first spot at Chelsea at his age and if that was his intention his agent would not have let him come here. He wants to work for his chance but he knows at Chelsea he needs to be 2-3 choice because 4 choice doesn't allow that to happen. You have to wait until misfortune befalls 3 other strikers until you get your chance and if you screw up you have to go through that whole process again. He's not naive has a VERY extensive football knowledge archive and he is very smart, he knows how this system works. He knows his place and he has not yet developed an alpha male personality although he could easily assume that position if he tried is heart out. He also doesn't want that responsibility he, looked shattered after he missed the super cup penalty. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodIsBlue 291 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 A surprisingly decent article from the Mail:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2597545/THE-NUMBERS-GAME-Why-Lukakus-NOT-right-striker-Chelsea.htmlUnsuprising bull shit article just spreading common football rhetoric. NEVER take football journalism seriously, for the last 5-10 it has been filled with people who can write English but don't care about football. They choose article because of their sensationalist qualities and not because their a fruitful story to share. This guy never watched Lukaku this season, he has missed all his beautiful back heel flicks and how got dam well he can hold a ball with his back to the net. He's comparing the stats of Atletico, Bayern and Chelsea players to an Everton player but he doesn't mention that (put Messi in Everton and see what happens to his stats). His main reason for Costa being so great is a heatmap from one game, I actually watched that game and obviously Costa had possession further back than normal Bilbao were parking the bus. Costa would be great (I agree with that) but this article is not worth a read, I regret reading it and do not recommend it. Sports journalist are always looking at Chelsea for a dramatic story, you find more truth in the opinions of poster in the forum than 99% of sports journalists writing about Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 His touch is still shockingly bad. Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 If Jose saw Lukaku today, I cannot be too surprised to see him being sold. At the start of this season, I thought this kid was ready to play for Chelsea. Then, the longer I have watched him the more I think he is very far from it. That 20m or something like that for him just might be used for a better player, I feel. Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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