🇧🇪 Romelu Lukaku

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Last Season

Lukaku 20 goals in 48 games or 0.41 goals per game

Costa 21 goals in 37 games or 0.56 goals per game

no mattter what way you look at it Costa is a level above Lukaku, Costa is world class Lukaku will most likely never become world class.

[didierforever 7,349]

lukaku - 20 goals, 7 assists, 3749minutes -> 138min/goalandassist

costa - 20goals, 5 assits, 2915minutes -> 116.6 min/goalandassist

aguero - 32 goals, 9 assists, 3186minutes -> 77.7 min/goalandassist

if costa is a level over lukaku then aguero should be 2 or 3 levels over costa, right?

also, does that mean lukaku currently is a better striker cos his stats are way better than costa's. the point of showing lukaku's stats in the previos reply was simply to show that a 21 year old striker had scored 20 goals in a season and it was said that he had a "disappointing" season.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

lukaku - 20 goals, 7 assists, 3749minutes -> 138min/goalandassist

costa - 20goals, 5 assits, 2915minutes -> 116.6 min/goalandassist

aguero - 32 goals, 9 assists, 3186minutes -> 77.7 min/goalandassist

if costa is a level over lukaku then aguero should be 2 or 3 levels over costa, right?

also, does that mean lukaku currently is a better striker cos his stats are way better than costa's. the point of showing lukaku's stats in the previos reply was simply to show that a 21 year old striker had scored 20 goals in a season and it was said that he had a "disappointing" season.

I like how you add assists to try and boost Lukaku and Aguero's stats, so below are non penalty goals from last season.

Lukaku 16 goals in 3736 minutes or goal every 233 minutes

Costa 20 goals in 2863 minutes or goal every 143 minutes

Aguero 25 goals in 3201 minutes or goal every 128 minutes

So yes Lukaku is a level below, maybe 2 levels below, as a number of Lukaku's goals were in the Europa League.

[jmarlow 458]

I like how you add assists to try and boost Lukaku and Aguero's stats, so below are non penalty goals from last season.

Lukaku 16 goals in 3736 minutes or goal every 233 minutes

Costa 20 goals in 2863 minutes or goal every 143 minutes

Aguero 25 goals in 3201 minutes or goal every 128 minutes

So yes Lukaku is a level below, maybe 2 levels below, as a number of Lukaku's goals were in the Europa League.

and also remeber Aguero scored hattricks agaist Bayern and Qpr, Bayern were already through and not really bothered about that game, and Qpr didnt even turn up as they already accepted they were going down, those were games where Aguero boosted his stats by preying on teams who really were not up for it.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

dude, even i have stopped arguing with him.

i mean someone who thinks aguero and costa are on the same level. or lewa and costa are on the same level. or that costa is the 2nd best striker in the world.

or that kdb is so and so and so...

i mean the amount of garbage said, the amount of fake stats put in by just that one poster is actually incredible. i mean not everyone can do it.

LOOL oh the irony!

fact is i back up my opinions! over the last 4 season Costa has been more impressive then Aguero and Lewandowski! you are the person who thinks Matic is playing bad and cant even do the basics because of Fabregas! LOL

You talk more BS then anyone! i back up what i say, you dont, that is the difference.

[Reddish-Blue 2,509]

and also remeber Aguero scored hattricks agaist Bayern and Qpr, Bayern were already through and not really bothered about that game, and Qpr didnt even turn up as they already accepted they were going down, those were games where Aguero boosted his stats by preying on teams who really were not up for it.

At least Aguero managed to score a hattrick against a quality team like Bayern....Costa has been almost non-existent in the Champions league with Chelsea

[Pacquiao 1,834]

At least Aguero managed to score a hattrick against a quality team like Bayern....Costa has been almost non-existent in the Champions league with Chelsea

with Chelsea the only quality team he has played against in the CL is PSG, where as a team we were awful. Aguero has never done anything of note in the KO stages, Costa has for Atletico when he played a big role in getting them to the CL Final!

[didierforever 7,349]

LOOL oh the irony!

fact is i back up my opinions! over the last 4 season Costa has been more impressive then Aguero and Lewandowski! you are the person who thinks Matic is playing bad and cant even do the basics because of Fabregas! LOL

You talk more BS then anyone! i back up what i say, you dont, that is the difference.

hahahhaha...

the last 4 years? seriously?

did not i OWN you and your dubious stats on that. or should i embarass you AGAIN. oh wait, oscar has played more minutes than messi, right?

and matic has been "awful" and yet he was one of our best player against city, palace and everton. but dont let that blind u to facts.

but u do backup what u say by quoting out of the world stats.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

hahahhaha...

the last 4 years? seriously?

did not i OWN you and your dubious stats on that. or should i embarass you AGAIN. oh wait, oscar has played more minutes than messi, right?

and matic has been "awful" and yet he was one of our best player against city, palace and everton. but dont let that blind u to facts.

but u do backup what u say by quoting out of the world stats.

LOOL! yes last 4 years! I owned you like I always do on that topic before, you ran off and had no reply! And as for dubious stats you are the king at that! Just like you have prove once again today by trying to add assist stats to boost up Aguero and Lukaku! LOOOL

And as for Matic once again I owned you on that topic where you even had to backtrack and admit he wasn't the best in all 3 of those games! LOL

So if you want to get owned again, that is fine by me.

[Kieran. 6,317]

Pacquiao v didierforever, the two most condescending members going at it [emoji23]

[cfcs most wanted 657]

The tag of 'best striker'

[didierforever 7,349]

LOOL! yes last 4 years! I owned you like I always do on that topic before, you ran off and had no reply! And as for dubious stats you are the king at that! Just like you have prove once again today by trying to add assist stats to boost up Aguero and Lukaku! LOOOL

And as for Matic once again I owned you on that topic where you even had to backtrack and admit he wasn't the best in all 3 of those games! LOL

So if you want to get owned again, that is fine by me.

http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/18470-19-diego-costa/?p=1154204

http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/18470-19-diego-costa/?p=1154203

hahahahahha,,, embarassing indeed. last 4 years, thats what u said, right?

true, assists are not a part of football. ozil and mata are shit. lol

but dont worry dude, oscar played more minutes than messi. hahahahah

delusions of grandeur. i mean calling matic awful and then literally having no answer when shown why he clearly was no where near that.

aything that helps u sleep at night buddy.

"costa is world class"

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

fact is i back up my opinions! over the last 4 season Costa has been more impressive then Aguero and Lewandowski!

Ludicrous statement. Only in the 13/14 season did he score more goals than those two (and 3 more than Aguero in 12/13). They beat him in every season besides that one. In 12/13 he scored 20 goals, but only 10 in the Primera division and the rest in the Europa League, something you downgrade Lukaku's stats for.

You're nothing but a troll.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

How is this debate still going?
Do people really believe Lukaku is already as good as Diego or DD? His career can go up or down really, what he showed so far is that he isn't ready to compete for his spot, something most belgian players (not all) are badly coached about.
Inbefore someone will quote me with a lengthy answer on how Belgium produces only perfect players, comparable to several new Jesuses.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/18470-19-diego-costa/?p=1154204

http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/18470-19-diego-costa/?p=1154203

hahahahahha,,, embarassing indeed. last 4 years, thats what u said, right?

true, assists are not a part of football. ozil and mata are shit. lol

but dont worry dude, oscar played more minutes than messi. hahahahah

delusions of grandeur. i mean calling matic awful and then literally having no answer when shown why he clearly was no where near that.

aything that helps u sleep at night buddy.

"costa is world class"

Ludicrous statement. Only in the 13/14 season did he score more goals than those two (and 3 more than Aguero in 12/13). They beat him in every season besides that one. In 12/13 he scored 20 goals, but only 10 in the Primera division and the rest in the Europa League, something you downgrade Lukaku's stats for.

You're nothing but a troll.

So let's see what Costa has done in the last 4 seasons.

At the age of 22 (the same age as Lukaku is now) Costa suffered a very serious knee injury, the type of injury that made players like Torres and Falcao come back as a shadow of what they used to be. After Costa recovered he was loaned to Rayo, no one expected much from him as he had just returned from a long lay off, he went on and scored 10 goals in 16 games to help save Rayo from Relegation, The following season he then goes back to Atletico and is asked to play on the wing or as a number 10 behind Falcao, (who was the best striker in the world at the time) and Costa goes on to score 20 goals that season without even playing as a striker, he also scored in every round of the Copa Del Rey including the final against Real Madrid, en route to lifting the trophy.

Then the following season in 2013/14 his impressive form gets rewarded and he gets his chance as Atletico's 1st choice striker, he goes on to score 36 goals! 27 in La Liga just 1 less then Lionel Messi, his goals and performances played a key role in guiding Atletico to the La Liga title, something Aguero couldn't do, he also scored 8 goals in the CL that season en route to the final, which Atletico probably would have won had Costa been fit. Then he moves to a new country in a new league in a new team and scores for fun once again, playing a key role in Chelsea's PL and CoC successes! That is an insane 4 seasons after such a bad injury! Not many players in world football can match what Costa has done in the last 4 seasons, only a world class player can come back from such a bad injury and do what Costa has done.

Since Costa returned from a serious knee injury

Costa 87 goals in 149 games - 0.58 goals per game

Aguero 107 goals in 164 games - 0.65 goals per game

so Aguero has scored 20 more goals in 15 more games, now factor in Costa didnt even play as a striker in one of those seasons, he had to overcome the type of injury that all but ends most players careers at the highest level, and then factor in the fact Aguero has done nothing in CL outside of the group stages. and then if you were to minus penalties scored i am sure it would be very similar stats between both players.

Sorry but when you look at what both have done for their teams in the last 4 seasons, you can see Costa's achievements have been far more impressive, and before you say Aguero won 2 PL titles for City, yes he did he won 2 PL titles by small margins in uncompetitive seasons, with 2 of the most exspensive squads ever assembed in the PL, so taking everything into consideration its clear for me Costa > Aguero.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

I'll say he's just a level below. And that is very good for someone who is only 22.

But seriously Costa should prove himself that he is still better than Lukaku this season. It's like he threw everything he got last season and now he's out of juice.

I want other fans to continue envying us for the players we got. Courtois and Azpi are the only starting XI players I can think of that are constantly good.

No offence to Lukaku but we shouldn't envying him at all, but this is what happens when Chelsea are playing shit football for months.

atm Lukaku is better than Hazard Doesn't mean in the bigger picture he's better than any of our players. It's really that simple.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Batshuayi is a better player than Lukaku. Rom is a very good striker but he has too many glaring weaknesses and he's half the player against deep blocks. Great players excel against any type of defences.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

atm Lukaku is better than Hazard Doesn't mean in the bigger picture he's better than any of our players. It's really that simple.

Very True. Right now Vardy and Mahrez are better then Pogba and Gotze, maybe we should sign the 2 Leicester lads?

[didierforever 7,349]

So let's see what Costa has done in the last 4 seasons.

At the age of 22 (the same age as Lukaku is now) Costa suffered a very serious knee injury, the type of injury that made players like Torres and Falcao come back as a shadow of what they used to be. After Costa recovered he was loaned to Rayo, no one expected much from him as he had just returned from a long lay off, he went on and scored 10 goals in 16 games to help save Rayo from Relegation, The following season he then goes back to Atletico and is asked to play on the wing or as a number 10 behind Falcao, (who was the best striker in the world at the time) and Costa goes on to score 20 goals that season without even playing as a striker, he also scored in every round of the Copa Del Rey including the final against Real Madrid, en route to lifting the trophy.

Then the following season in 2013/14 his impressive form gets rewarded and he gets his chance as Atletico's 1st choice striker, he goes on to score 36 goals! 27 in La Liga just 1 less then Lionel Messi, his goals and performances played a key role in guiding Atletico to the La Liga title, something Aguero couldn't do, he also scored 8 goals in the CL that season en route to the final, which Atletico probably would have won had Costa been fit. Then he moves to a new country in a new league in a new team and scores for fun once again, playing a key role in Chelsea's PL and CoC successes! That is an insane 4 seasons after such a bad injury! Not many players in world football can match what Costa has done in the last 4 seasons, only a world class player can come back from such a bad injury and do what Costa has done.

Since Costa returned from a serious knee injury

Costa 87 goals in 149 games - 0.58 goals per game

Aguero 107 goals in 164 games - 0.65 goals per game

so Aguero has scored 20 more goals in 15 more games, now factor in Costa didnt even play as a striker in one of those seasons, he had to overcome the type of injury that all but ends most players careers at the highest level, and then factor in the fact Aguero has done nothing in CL outside of the group stages. and then if you were to minus penalties scored i am sure it would be very similar stats between both players.

Sorry but when you look at what both have done for their teams in the last 4 seasons, you can see Costa's achievements have been far more impressive, and before you say Aguero won 2 PL titles for City, yes he did he won 2 PL titles by small margins in uncompetitive seasons, with 2 of the most exspensive squads ever assembed in the PL, so taking everything into consideration its clear for me Costa > Aguero.

have not i already shown you the stats of the exact number of matches that costa played as a winger. and infact shown you the number of matches that aguero played as a second striker were more than those numbers? you can go back to the costa thread to jog your memory.

whats worse is that i am pretty sure i have also given u the penalty stats and still aguero was way ahead.

and yet u keep coming back with the same old poor arguments. like ATM reaching the CL final. i am sorry, it was a lot on the team ATM had than costa which includes the manager too. ATM beat barca without costa who were there biggest test in CL knockout stages. players like villa, luis, koke were as important if not more to ATM's play. aguero has not been able to lead city anywhere cos of inapt managers who play with 2 strikers against barca at camp nou. it is the same aguero who scored hattrick against bayern munich to keep city in play or who even a week or 2 ago saved city.

kudos to costa on coming back from the injury. that shows his character, not his skill. be it any part of the play on football field and concering football (not kickboxing), aguero is better than costa.

[didierforever 7,349]

atm Lukaku is better than Hazard Doesn't mean in the bigger picture he's better than any of our players. It's really that simple.

most of our posts are statements. why dont you try and give a few REASONS as to why u think costa is not better than remy or falcao or not as good as costa. again reasons, not statements.