Vincent 403 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Maybe.But he can't cross, he can't dribble, he is slow. All the contrary of a modern right back. My bigger concern is when he faces pacy winger. Against United and Tottenham, he has shown that he was too slow too handle Bale and Nani.And at the end of the day, we gotta have a real right back. To play players out of position is a real disease at our club...ps : don't get me wrong, i ain't saying he's done a poor job for us.Dani Alves and Maicon would be also too slow. If an attacker comes to you at speed you can't stop him by running, because he started earlier and he's on speed. Ivan is fabulous, he has a great tackle and most important the good attitude!It's funny cause i remember some exact same argument being said about Suarez.Not sure if it was you or some other guy, that watches the dutch league. But they said the same exact thing you are saying about VDW, and look at him now...That wasn't me, but i could've been negative about him. I'm more into the real English soccer with good attitude, not the diving and stuff like Neymar, Ronaldo and Suarez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Dani Alves and Maicon would be also too slow. If an attacker comes to you at speed you can't stop him by running, because he started earlier and he's on speed. Ivan is fabulous, he has a great tackle and most important the good attitude!That wasn't me, but i could've been negative about him. I'm more into the real English soccer with good attitude, not the diving and stuff like Neymar, Ronaldo and Suarez.Forgot to mention Drogba there as well! But Drogba has matured a lot from those days.Same can happen to these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Forgot to mention Drogba there as well! But Drogba has matured a lot from those days.Same can happen to these guys.For the last time : Drogba doesn't dive, he exaggerates contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 For the last time : Drogba doesn't dive, he exaggerates contact.More or less the same thing to be honest.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 More or less the same thing to be honest..Just no Diving = feigning contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Just no Diving = feigning contact.It's acting to get a set-play. They're both forms of cheating/conning the referee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 I've always said that too to so many ppl. It's true he doesn't dive but goes down like he's been sniped when he is touched even minimally. He must be 15 stone ish, he really should bully people much more than he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 It's acting to get a set-play. They're both forms of cheating/conning the referee.One's with contact, the other's without contact. Feigning contact is unlawful, exaggerating contact isn't, as proved when these acts don't get reprimands from the ref, while diving does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 One's with contact, the other's without contact. Feigning contact is unlawful, exaggerating contact isn't, as proved when these acts don't get reprimands from the ref, while diving does.Oh come on Max..If Drogba didn't play for us we'd all be slaughtering him. Call and apple and apple. He cheats when he does that (which is less frequent now in fairness). He deliberately tries to take an innocent tackle and turn it into a foul with the theatrics in an attempt to stop play so we get the ball. That's cheating in my book. It's the same intention as diving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Call and apple and apple.But I am. I'm distinguishing between the two To each his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 For the last time : Drogba doesn't dive, he exaggerates contact.Same stuff.Drogba is still in the categories of those that try to get one over the ref. like those names you mention, like Barcelona team and such. We have them all over the place. In our team, our opposing team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Same stuff.Drogba is still in the categories of those that try to get one over the ref. like those names you mention, like Barcelona team and such. We have them all over the place. In our team, our opposing team.He wants the best for the team and wants to win. If that requires to drop on the ground a few times then I won't judge him. It is irritating to the opposition, but I don't hear people complain when we bring 3 points... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 He wants the best for the team and wants to win. If that requires to drop on the ground a few times then I won't judge him. It is irritating to the opposition, but I don't hear people complain when we bring 3 points...You can't say that & then criticise Barcelona then (if you do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 He wants the best for the team and wants to win. If that requires to drop on the ground a few times then I won't judge him. It is irritating to the opposition, but I don't hear people complain when we bring 3 points...So to those that dive. Like the players of Barcelona.It's ok for Drogba to do it, but not Barcelona players??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielampard 0 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Felipe Mattioni or Michel MacedoBrazilian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 Easy now. I do hate when Barca dive, but they also win. They fight when they get out there and show passion for victory. Besides that, their opposition usually plays very defensively so it is expected to see them dive that much.I do agree with Max though that DD exaggerates contract, rather then taking the dive.And let's stop the off topic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 VDW.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milllz 43 Posted June 12, 2011 Author Share Posted June 12, 2011 kyle walker!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.F. 1,484 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 johnnie walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 kyle walker!!!He is really good from what I've seen against Spain...shame he plays for Spuds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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