Mouri_Matic

Tried so many time, never did anything good there.

It is not that he should be sold, he already came out and said he will leave if he doesn't start more so basically he looks like he won't be willing to fight for his place. To be fair I knew it was always gonna come to this anyway, you never get 2 top class players for every single position and keep them happy. Many of the top class players are very ambitious and they want to be playing all the time so no matter how much rotation it is never gonna work well.

No point loaning him anymore, unless loaning gonna make him scores 10 goals and have 15-20 assists he is finished here. He will never be the regular player he wants. Not because he is lazy or not talented but just that others are better such as Oscar, Hazard and Mata who can't even get in the team atm. Best bet would be to sell him for £15m to some German team like Worlfburg or Leverkusen and see him play because we are wasting his career here.

If his release clause is only £30m could see Arsenal going for him, just too good to miss out for that price. Personally I don't think we would need him unless we sell both Mata/Kevin but one of the best attacking midfielder in the world atm for sure.

I still like Bayern's pressing and dominating game though. And about Dortmund I agree, while they attack too much they seem to forgot their defensive responsibility. And I know there will be game where counter attacking is needed such as when playing better teams like Bayern, Madrid, Barca...etc but NOT ALL THE TIME. Look what happen when the players only know how to counter attack. It only works well when opposition want to attack and press themselves which will leave space behind. Since teams just sit back and let us have the ball, it won't work and we will be exposed to counter attack ourselves from them such as Newcastle, West Brom. So I believe the team should find the right balance, not all out attack or defend but in the middle. Jose only wants defend first and attack 2nd which is not OK imo especially with the players we got. It is not like we got 34 years old Drogba as our forward anymore or Shevchenko who can't run to save his life. We got Schurrle, Hazard, Oscar...etc players who can dominate and attack opposition if the coach instructs them to. But Jose didn't do that, he still wants to use his old way with the current players and it just will not work as we can see. You can't just buy a Fiat and try to drive it like a Ferrari.

We should play like we did in that last 10 mins against West Brom, I don't care if we will ge tired by half time. Just get in a 1-0, 2-0 lead then park the plane. It is basically A MUST WIN.

I prefer Bayern, Dortmund style. Total attack.

Oh by steamrolling I meant like dominating controlling the whole match Yeah if they come at us that would suit us hehe

If Jose insists on using counter attack football in this match I can see a repeat of the 3-1 loss last time. One thing is for sure, WE ARE NOT GONNA STEAMROLL THEM.

His new philosophy is the same philosophy that he had been using for 10 years now. Building lol? And those players at the peak of their career? Like Mueller, Kroos, Neymar, Varane...etc? We got a lot of peak players ourselves in Cech, Lampard, Terry, Cole, Eto'o, Ba, Torres, Cahill. The thing is if you compare the quality, we are no where near them. Each of them have a player that is considered top 3 in the world, we got none who are in the top 5. If you could actually point one thing to what Jose had changed this season I would be grateful. Our start have been worse under him than under Carlo. The only big win we managed was against City thanks to a cock up at the last min by Joke Hart. All I am saying is maybe you shouldn't worship Mou like God and actually see some negative points in him, he is not perfect just as nothing is. Btw patience isn't in Roman's dictionary. So even if we do, he won't.

And we are not one dimensional now? All we know is counter attack. We don't know the meaning of total domination anymore. Under Jose we won't ever see another 5-0 win for a very long time but a lot of 1-0, 2-0 just like his first spell. What are our plan B atm? We got none.

Spot on, it is good that your attacking players work for the team but if that means hindering their ability like Mata and Hazard then they shouldn't have to do it. Jose should look at how Heynckes and Klopp got Reus, Lewandowski, Robben, Ribery...etc now committed more to defending but still retain their attacking form.

As the day goes on, it looks like either Mata or Mourinho will have to leave the club. Looking like Mata atm but if we continue our horrible form then Jose should be worried

And whose fault is that? THE FUCKING MANAGER WHO IS MEANT TO GUIDE HIS TEAM. It is not the players, remember how RDM had this team with less attacking players playing great attacking football before he got the sack. Time to actually start to blame Jose and not just the players, his tactics are not spot on for these games. He wants us to play counter attack all the time and even today, he admitted it in his interview.

Abuse? LOL WHAT. Saying anything negative is counted as abuse? Abuse is used by troll/rival fans not our own fans. No one here want to abuse any of our players/staffs but we can all voice our thought. That is why Hazard had sticks, Torres had sticks for more than 2 years, Eto'o last month, Mourinho now. It is called criticism, whenever the coach/player do something and we feel it is not right, we should voice our concern. If that is not allowed then there is pretty much no point in a forum anymore. What is knee jerk about what everyone is saying? We believe Jose wants his team to play counter attacking which was not suitable for matches like this, isn't that right? We believe Ivanovic had a poor game and needs to improve his crossing, is that not right too? Both of those are facts since Jose came out and admitted it in his interview and Ivan had worst cross statistic for any player in this match

I don't know dude, they have been on good form since that 2-0 win against Bayern in March, so their good form have been for over 8 months now which seem a long time for a bottling don't you think?

Top 4 is not good enough, what difference is that from our one under the FSW last season? Roman didn't pay Jose triple the Waiter's wages for this. A title challenge is a MUST, even if we don't win it eventually.

But this is probably our last pen for the next 2-3 months though. They will make sure they correct this mistake by ignoring our next 10 legit appears.

Next-West Ham, another Newcastle game. Prepare for the worst.

Mourinho. He cannot tell his team to play attacking football. Horrible horrible at attacking, the only attacking word he knows is counter attacking,

Well he made it up by robbing them 2 points, what more do you want?

Hard really, remember we spent a lot this summer again to support Mou and he is getting paid £13m per year apparently. That mean he is under even more pressure to bring trophies and good football.

How long though, remember Roman have none of that. If this doesn't change I could see us going for Klopp eventually. But this is really unlikely atm, but definitely a possibility imo.

Against Hull, 2 goals then suddenly they go toe to toe with us in the 2nd half Basel- we all know what happened Cardiff-GK cock up, lucky and eventually regain momentum Shalker home- another GK cock up and eventually momentum after suriviving early scares Newcastle-Need I say more? West Brom- robbed them thanks to ref Every single of these teams have set out to pack the bus and while we won most of them, none of them was really convincing

The myth has been debunked really. Wouldn't be surprise if we get one of these against us later in the season, it is called karma. Then we would probably throw crap at ref but forgot moments like today really.