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because he has been stopped with dirty fouls every time he tried something sharper. But well, I think it was very good. Everything he could have done.

I can't stand watching Oscar anymore, can Mourinho make a sub before 65 mark? Stop with the fuckery

in that case I think your expectations are delusional. Just because we sucked in general, it doesn't mean he wasn't very good. He was. Like I said, he can't do everything by himself. Oscar and especially Hazard looked TERRIBLE and Costa didn't have service. That's why it looks dire, but saying that Willian wasn't very good looks like you expect us to play like Barcelona or our players to be Messi... to each their own.

Oscar came a little bit better, but gosh, it looks like he moves in slow motion.

Wililan was very good. Both pressing, defending and in the attack. It's unfair to ignore his display But what can one player do all by himself in a whole team?

we need to improve years light to finish 6th

he can have his wakeup call in the bench. one between him and Oscar have to make room for Kenedy. They've been both awful, but as Hazard is more attacking minded (and positioned) he's damaged our attack even more. Oscar has barely been involved (also a fault) and failed when he was.

mine too. There's a clear as day change in the way the team plays five minutes after taking the lead. Frustrating, annoying, infernal!

in my defense Cuntterburg should have already finished the first half when I wrote it

I know Should have resisted. He's been worse than Hazard today... and that's saying a lot, but well, there's his wonderful goal he's known for.

and there is is. I knew when I was typing the above message, Coutinho would score, LOL Should have resisted the urge

have you read what I just said? Isn't almost general consensus here that any manager that comes here would have an immediate impact? How many times a team goes lively with a new manager after a situation with the former stretches? His Liverpool looks insipid. We're making them look better now, at the beginning of the match when we were nearly decent, they looked lost, even in their pressing, but then we decided to go back to the usual suckery and they grew. So if he couldn't do something inspiring to this team now, he wouldn't have done here either I suppose... What's so difficult to understand in the parallel? Next season is a new story for everyone, and hopefully for Chelsea too. What I really to read is Coutinho's worshipers. He's been sucking for a while now, as anyone with a brain could say he always does, but they pick one pass and one goal every 10-15 matches and he's a wonderkid. LOL

They're trying to provoke Diego. Let's hope he doesn't fall for it Skrtel tried to hit him in the face...

when a manager has been cooked for as long as Brendan was (or how Jose is now) and someone new comes, normally (almost all times) the team immediately picks an improvement (which is why some have been wanting José sacked now and not at the end of the season) that doesn't last a lot anyway. The only improvement I see in this Liverpool side is how much more violent they are. Killing every single play with a tough foul.

Hazard has been good for nothing after the goal. He ruined our attack in a way or other every single time...

have Cunt-burg brought his yellows or are they all saved for the players in blue?

It seems like I made a mistake assessing Klopp as someone to replace Mourinho... I've seen a bit of his Liverpool and it looks as bad or worse than Brendan's... but maybe I haven't watched enough

Zouma (who was offside) didn't touch or take a relevant part in the construction of the play... or am I wrong?

I guess you missed the word I used a few times when talking about it: recent. It's been a lifetime since that happened and Malouda had been a rollercoaster, one I'm happy we didn't have to deal with for longer than necessary. Oh yeah, Walsall and Maccabi are just like the challenges we needed to show a good attacking display. Not only I disagree those were our best attacking performances, but giving the attack any credit when they played those teams and didn't score at least 5-6 goals is a travesty. Haven't watched Stoke though, so you might have something there, although I read Hazard (playing through the middle) and Kenedy were the keys to our attack looking better. Haven't read one single mention of Baba.

What is depressing about this lineup in general is that if you take away Zouma who is only playing because Iva is injured, that's exactly the same team we had two years ago with the exception of Costa (and that's only because we currently don't have any of the strikers we had two seasons ago, thanks God for that). That shows how much we regressed as a team. The same way that team of two seasons ago wasn't good enough, this one won't ever be. Matic, Fabregas, Pedro - who were theoretically our best signings (keeping Costa out of it because he's actually in the team) being all benched (Pedro would have been benched even if not injured), just show how the squad management both by the manager (last two years) and the board (last transfer window) has been poor. We took several steps back and I applaud the posters who saw this coming a long time ago (I couldn't). We overachieved last season with this tactics and players. There are some serious misfits and while I think we might need some new players next season, it's imperative we have a new manager with new ideas. It's not that Mourinho is bad, it's just he needs some time off of football to reinvent himself. He lost the plot, both tactically and emotionally (given the things he says and does).

And you guys have all those pretty attack theories as if we had ever played wide in recent years even when we had better FBs and currently look well drilled and with attackers looking great. I mean, the only problem our strikers and AMs (except Willian) have not been nearly close to decent is because we lack a RB like Baba. Yeah, I can see him making a whole big difference. Sorry, but our problems in attack run much deeper than this obsession with width that never, ever, ever in recent years actually happened with Chelsea. Playing baba would make no difference in the attack, that's not how we play and having him in defense would be a nightmare, although ad DYC. said, Zouma may not defend all that well in the right. I'd start with the same lineup, but switched Zouma and Azpilicueta

He made stupid mistakes that didn't turn into goals because he only played really poor opposition. Against half decent EPL teams it could be as bad as Ivanovic as they made the same kind of mistakes, but let's have TC gurus and their logic pick the team. Mourinho is as good gone at this point, but the lack of respect and how no matter what you guys will say shit about him is an annoying diarrhea. Only a few actually address what really are the problems he has that should see him out. Not playing ducking Baba isn't one of them

I thought there would be more celebrations posts as Cesc was dropped like some of you have advocated for months... But only one poster actually stuck to his guns... The rest prefer talk nonsense about the Baba vs Zouma situation... As if Mourinho was stupid to play defensive useless Baba on this match... Well, nothing new around here

did you read the part when I said big stage? I said he did play well in some big games where there wasn't important things at stake. If I don't consider bundesliga a relevant league because of its one team, what do you think I - and everyone else with common sense - make out of German domestic cups? Wolfsburg NEVER threatened Bayern's title last season.

LOL. 5% his fault? LMAO I still stay firm in my belief, he isn't a big stage player. If that's yet or not time will say because he's quite young. He'll shine and thrive when there isn't much pressure. But against big teams with big things at stake (top of the table) or deep knock outs, he's been a failure wherever he played (Belgium WC, Wolfburg EL). He played well in some big games before, but there wasn't something really important at stake. He's easily neutralized if a little more of attention (and quality attention on that) is given to him. About this speed liability, I've never paid attention to this before, my only instances on him are that he thinks only of himself and has no concept of team if it threatens his big star status (if the manager and team mates are willing to see to his every little whim, then he can be a team player) and when time of the truth comes, he just fades... But I think none of this is definite yet. He's young, he has a lot (A LOT) to mature both mentally and his game. If he takes the right routes, I'm positive he can be a player with better return than Hazard, although Hazard will always be the more talented because Hazard has a gift... but at the end what's more important, talent or how big a player becomes? The biggest example of not so awesome talent and still out of this world size is Cristiano imo. He isn't a very talented guy, but he's so success oriented, and so determined and works so hard that he found a way to get in the discussion of the best player in the world when a certain Messi also plays. People keep comparing both and saying all kind of things, but do they ever stop to think that Ronaldo isn't anywhere, nearly, close talented to Messi and he still put himself in the discussion?