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Anyone who wants Poch long term is either lowering their standards for “stability” or is deluding themselves into thinking he’s gonna win something ofc the club have already lowered the standards , Roman wouldn’t even have considered Potter a candidate

So you are lowering your standards. If it was up to you we’d probably still have Potter saying “the boys gave everything” maybe no one is expecting major trophies right now but in a few years we will be , and poch , a serial loser won’t be the man to deliver.

A top class manager wouldn’t need carrying and you’d at least see signs of good play, there’s been nothing to suggest poch is heading in the right direction. I’m not just talking about the lineup , it’s the awful tactics , no pressing , too much space between the midfielders etc it makes sense to give someone like klopp time given his track record , but not serial losers like poch or nothing managers like potter you can opt for patience when you actually hire someone good

He’s setting the team up poorly regardless of experience. A team full of experience can carry a poor manager (Di matteo, grant ) but an inexperienced team cant. we need more experience, quality and a better manager , that’s the bottom line

Not bad but ideally you’d upgrade chilwell and Jackson that’s a weak looking left side.

Forum is full of messages saying every player isn’t good enough. It was based off him playing 5 minutes every other month out of position under a bad manager in a team full of inexperience

Problem was , we were continuing with 3 atb when our wingbacks (James and chilwell ) were injured so it was just absolute aids, with gusto and maatsen flying down the flanks it could have been an option , as well as providing additional cover for the elderly silva and inexperienced colwill , would make enzo and caicedo/ gallaghers job easier too no , it’s not ideal , a well built and managed team like city , Madrid etc won’t be using 3 atb but we don’t have the players or the technical ability to dominate with other formations , it’s a formation to help less talented teams be competitive, and ultimately we won our last PL and CL with this formation

Well yes , it’s the clubs fault ultimately for hiring complete shit like potter Lampard and poch and ruining the squad. but even if we had a perfect squad , poch wouldn’t cut it , so what’s the point ? They’d probably hire another second rate , yes-man loser , that’s the only reason for keeping him , but you’d also have to accept the club is dead at that point

He didn’t play a single game in his natural position here under a manger who thought Sanchez was better than petrovic. You can’t say he wasn’t good enough. Dortmund would abuse us 1 on 1 and he’s good enough for them

I’ll watch only because it’s on free TV , wouldn’t stream this shit

Best we can hope for weak ass mentality. gonna rage if we sell Hutchinson too , should sell mudryk and madueke before him

new managers have an immediate impact all the time. If it wasn't the case, you wouldn't see clubs threatened with relegation routinely fire managers as a last attempt to stay up

those guys all had a big run of games in their normal position. I was thinking of maatsen more as a wb in a back 3/5 yes. It would benefit the old silva and help colwill settle as a back 3 too, a good manager would have seen this. Even if we had a perfect squad - would you want Poch? for me he'd still put the team at a competitive disadvantage as we'd be fighting against clubs with much better managers. Do you see him winning PL/CL , if not , what's the goal? if we want to win those trophies again we'd have to sack him somewhere down the line anyway. If our ambitions are lower now, we could have midtable mediocrity with potter and save a bunch of money

if you have already hired a top manager with a proven track record then yes, why would you suddenly choose to be patient with some loser who never won anything? could have kept lampard with that logic and not won the CL

i don't care how he played, out of position for 3 minutes every 5 matches. Fact is, he's been playing well for a far better team than us It’s still early days in Dortmund for Dutch left-back Ian Maatsen, but this hasn’t stopped the entire BVB fanbase from raving about the Chelsea loanee, despite him having only played five games so far this season. Maatsen arrived relatively unknown to many, but in his short time in Dortmund, he has shown that he’s exactly the kind of player that Terzic’s team needed. Maatsen is technically gifted to the extent that he’s comfortable inverting, he’s solid in defense, and able to ask questions in the offense as well. Lastly, he doesn’t seem to run out of steam, much like his Norwegian counterpart at right back. With Maatsen in play, Dortmund can suddenly progress the ball down the left-hand side—something that wasn’t possible until recently, because Rami Bensebaini is an entirely different profile from Maatsen. I think it’s no understatement to say that the sole introduction of Ian Maatsen to the squad has totally changed the way BVB are able to play.

Dude had maatsen all year fit and ready but he chose to put colwill out of position.

So what’s your reasoning for keeping poch ?

Palmer and gusto playing well isn’t down to pochs tactics , they are just genuinely good players colwill was being played out of position earlier in the season , disasi played one good game and attributing the goalkeepers ability to poch is really scraping the barrel, let’s not forget he’s only playing because the terrible goalkeeper who Poch preferred got injured, if it wasn’t for that we’d still be seeing clownshows from Sanchez every week

Next season is a write off then , he’s never gonna win anything here or elsewhere , he wouldn’t win the lottery if you gave him the winning ticket

Why not ? Season is dead so there’s no point wasting time with poch, sack him now or back him long term (although that will mean mediocrity for years to come) fresh impetus might even help some of these guys , someone who can fire them up and motivate instead of another soft touch

Those donkeys are already pointless 😂

Even if no one was injured poch is still a shit second rate manager , having injury problems and a piss poor manager just compounds our issues

Poch isn’t and will never be PL / CL winning standard. That has to be the aim so he needs to be sacked

0% chance we win the FA cup , better to go out early on and show Poch the door

Rúben Amorim - High pressing 343. Get a striker and left wing back and it’d be much better than this directionless shite we see. james can be rcb, gusto rwb, 3 at the back suits us better tbh , we don’t have the raw quality to go 433/4231