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please feel free to list your own criteria for what a "Big Club "is . But I think most people consider Brazil is a country not a continent

A topic which usually causes arguements but perhaps a diversion from transfer rumours. The difficulty usually arises fro the different perceptions of what actually constiutes a" big club" I will set out my criteria which you are welcome to dispute provided you keep offensive remaarks within bounds. It is acceptable to call me "an old Fool" but not an Idiot. My criteria: 1 Success on the field .. This is deliberately vague as I will explain later. 2 A large domestic fan base. 3 A world wide fan base. 4 Consistently large attendance figures. 5 Top class facilities and Academy 6The ability to attract the World's best players. 7 The ability to attract sponsors. Returning to the first criteria ,,I would expand this to prolonged success in winning trophies both domestic and continental. Now for MY opinions ENGLAND 1 without question the club which most easily satisfies all 6 of the criteria is Manchester United. If anyone disputes this I can bore the ass off them with stats 2 close but my second would be Arsenal ...again they tick all the boxes despite no trophies for 8 years. Again a study of their history should convince sceptics 3 The team I despise most of all Liverpool. Well that is my English BIG CLUBS . Chelsea ... We are a work in progress our success started in the last 10 years we are still not nationally well supported but it is growing as is our world wide fan base as witnessed by the membership of our forum. Kenyon was widely derided and his talk of domination ill conceived but he did start to build us a name to be recognised on the global stage. We do need a larger stadium as do Liverpool. Summing up ...we are moving closer to matching my criteria ,,perhaps in another 10 years we will be there. And now north of the border ... A wonderful country inhabited by savages .. but two BIG CLUBS .. It is almost impossible to separate them ... certainly don't get between them on an Old Firms day. Celtic and Rangers ...Complete domination of the domestic scene .. now perhaps they lack the finance to attract the World's best but on their reputation and world wide fan base must be considered BIG and now to Italy ,,,a country and people I love ... I must admit to not being a fan of Italian football. Putting aside this antipathy 1 Juventus ... the most successful ,,best supported by far of the Italian clubs . Recent times they are in a slump but they are a giant both in Italy and beyond . 2 I will leave it to members to differentiate between the two Milan rivals . and that is my Italian BIG 3 we're off to visit sunny Spain ... Costa Brava in Summer Costa Del Sol in winter. an undisputed Number 1 Real Madrid .... 2 Their politcal and football rivals Barcelona again I could swamp you with stats..but will spare you that ... Now the floor is yours ...I am hoping that our overseas members will talk about their country and their biggest clubs . Obviously many couldnt match all the criteria but I would welcome imput about other leagues . My friend Kostas will I hope talk of Olympiakos and Panathanikos Kilimanjaro talk of Lyon and Marseilles . Im not sure if wir habe ein Deutche freund hier. Finally please Henrique describe the Big Brazillian clubs .. Look forward to hearin from you. oh forgot our Irish friends ,,,remiss of me ,,when the first overseas side I saw live was Shamrock Rovers

as a newly promoted FIFA VP and member of their Executive Committee ..I can guarantee you my vote ,,,For a consideration I will have a word with Jack Warner as well.

congratulations on making the 2000th post on this thread ... and one of the most interesting as well

maybe they dont have televisions

The irony was the way the Dutch played in the final and they still lost

As a member of FIFA executive committee you can rely on MY vote

RVP right van prick

sorry but it would only encourage us to lump long balls forward....

if it is a serious injury then YES ,,we have a record of signing crocked players

agree ,,,even if we sign Lukaku ,,he should be behind Danny in the queue ,,and I feel sure Anelka will leave and Drog will be at ANC

the last very young player we got from Belgium was their player of the year at 16 ,,,remember him??

slightly misleading title ,,,he hasn't earned 2 cents it is actually more than he is worth

good luck Jack at least the fans valued you

YES ...sell Alex and can just see the scenario in November . Terry ..back injury out for 6 weeks .. Luiz and Bran serving 3 match suspensions .. back 4 ?? ?? ?? cole

don't they always

it is on the Club website

isnt that exactly what we are doing with the loan system??

then why is this fucking thread going on and on and ON

Ive lost track of what he has said or his agent or his father or Pele or the club president or you or even Uncle tom Cobley ,,,Just know the whole thing is ONE LONG BORE

I thought because of his age we will be entitled to compensation even tho his contract has ended

I think we would always get 50000 to 55000 and more for the bigger games even an average of 55000 would be an increase of 25%

Surely I'm not the only one getting bored by this thread. He is an undoubted talent but of suspect temperament .. IF he did come he could be brilliant or a pain in the ass . The "will I wont I " just adds to the annoyance level

a good informative post ...thanks

and you know very little about the English ,,,thats why you show no respect.