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Cheers love. Absolutely appreciated this post. Apologies if I meaner or impugn or insult....or maybe even spell a word incorrectly (that covers me right???) Logged on, expecting lionsden and mr excalibur and a few others to have slated this team as soon as the match finished (probably even a bit before) and I thought to myself it was a shit game. Absolutely dire. But who cares? Sunny day, Bank holiday wandering out of the Bridge heading towards the river fancying a cider - do you know what that's like? To walk out of a shitty game, moaning to a mate about spunking £60 up a wall for that? It's actually pretty funny at the end of the day. A norwich supporter can count the number of tenners they lost on one hand. But that's football. It isn't all champagne in Munich. It isn't all open top buses, there's a few shitty results like today where the lack of a striker is self-evident and the lack of quality is fucking awful. But I got speaking to an old boy later on and he spoke about the pleasure of seeing Eden Hazard on the ball. The utter joy in his voice at seeing such a great player in the team and it got me thinking... There's a fair few CUNTS on this forum who do nothing but slate the team. They know who they are because I've name checked a few of them. Here's the proposition. One year from now. Henrique, lionsden, excalibur, styles, laura90, theskipper, whomever....I'll put up the cost of the servers for one year against you guys. If we win the league, you pay up EACH. If we don't, I'll pay up. You want to criticise, put your money where your mouths are or shut up. I'm bored of the constant criticism. I look at you guys and you have nothing invested in the success of this team bar a fleeting interest in bpasting about a win on Facebook to what are surely your equally tiresome, irredeemably identical 'friends'. So here's a chance to be invested in Chelsea Football Club's success, via TalkChelsea. All six of you have to agree to it and if anyone else wants to bet against us winning the league you're welcome.

Thank you Ash. It's a bizarre feeling in football when a player becomes one of your own. For a while after you left Arsenal you still felt like one of them. The first image you conjured would be red and white, but at some point you became a blue. It's not often a club can say they had the best in the world but we absolutely did. You took far too much shit and maybe you cared too much about what other people thought, but you were the absolute best at what you chose to do. Those tears got me today because I knew we were probably losing one of our own. Fuck me it's going to happen a few times in the next few years but no matter what, thousands of people will know they got to see one of the best ever. So thanks. Hundreds of times I got to see you and I still probably won't realise how good I had it. :blue scalf:

Just exemplifies how you don't understand football and see these as mutually exclusive. Counter-attacking play will always be part of this team's philosophy as a first-phase attack. Do you know what that is? Teams transitioning from attack to defence leave gaps, and we will always look to exploit these gaps with our pace. The key is the next phase if this counter breaks down. That's where we've been poor and that has a lot to do with our strikers' movement. Eto'o's has been terrible at this and just seems to stand there. Torres always seems to drift to the edge of the box and Ba probably has the best movement in the box which is a woeful indictment of our options. So it's become fashionable for people like lionsden to not even contend this point, but try and diminish it by suggesting that strikers really aren't that important. This is hogwash of the highest order. A dangerous striker puts defenders on their heels and creates space between the lines for midfielders to operate in - that lack of space has killed us. The lack of a threat at 9 is the reason teams can double-team Hazard. It's why people like you should have some patience when 'assessing' the tactics Jose employs. He doesn't have the requisite parts yet. Just look at the transformation the acquisition Matic made to our midfield and use your imagination to think what difference a striker might make to our attack.

Cahill has passion. Terry has passion. Lampard has passion. Azpi has passion. Ivanovic has a ton of passion. Ramires has misdirected passion. Hazard seems to genuinely enjoy being a footballer. Costa (if we get him) certainly has passion and fire. I think you're confusing passion with taking selfies and giving thumbs up whilst sticking your tongue out. That's Miley Cyrus passion. There's always a hope that David Luiz can mature as a player.... I mean he is only 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 . Newcastle was a big game and he didn't perform in that. So was West Brom. In fact people need to get over this notion of their being 'big games' - every game where a person pays to see you put on the shirt with the money they've worked hard for is a big game. There were also plenty of mutterings about players being pissed off with his attitude as well. Yes take joy in the football but do the hard bits as well. No-one will disagree that he has EVERY physical attribute needed to be a top-class defender. But it's the mental side that is highly questionable. For me he is fourth-choice centre-back behind Terry, Cahill and Ivanovic and I'm even tempted to put Kalas above him too. As a midfielder, maybe he has a future here.

In the real world, Jose doesn't bring negativity. I challenge you to honestly say the atmosphere at Chelsea matches has been negative this year - it hasn't. In fact Jose has brought a kind of unity and togetherness amongst the Chelsea support (I'll repeat that, the Chelsea SUPPORT) that hasn't been there for a while. Under Robbie there was a defiance because we were underdogs, but under Jose there's been a belligerence and strength amongst the crowd. On the internet it's a little different. In fact on this website there's been just a few negative members who constantly criticise Mourinho based on an agenda. I've been critical at times and I was wary of him returning, but I see the smiles back on people's faces in the crowd and the optimism that he has brought. But I will say this. You are not representative of the vast majority of Chelsea supporters. Lionsden is not representative of the vast majority of Chelsea supporters. Mr Excalibur isn't representative of ANY Chelsea supporter that I've met in the last 20 years of going to Stamford Bridge (that's our home ground FYI). Now I do understand some of the criticism and frustration. People want things overnight. There's a certain sense of entitlement that fans who came to this club really from the turn of the century have. The type of fan whose brain wasn't blown by seeing that we'd signed Mark Hughes on Ceefax. The type of fan who had to look twice when they went to Priesfields in Gillingham and saw RUUD FUCKING GULLIT in a Chelsea shirt. There's a type of fan who thinks Roman's money entitles us to success and success now and if it doesn't arrive within the first year then it's time to turn on the manager. Those supporters are a cancer. Maybe parasite is a better word. They take all the good stuff and aren't prepared for any of the hard graft and the occasional fuck-up. Their form of 'support' isn't worth shit and for you to take that tiny, insignificant minority's negativity and attribute to the support at large and then blame it on Mourinho is disgusting and it should be viewed as such and nothing more.

I'll miss them. Never could muster hate for Fulham because they're just so....beige? Most interesting fact I know about Fulham - only league ground in England with a tree in it's grounds. That pretty much sums them up for me.

He'll win it if he works hard. Ronaldo for all his talent is one of the hardest-working players in the world off the pitch. When Eden starts doing that for a few years then he'll be right in the mix.

I've never been that convinced about him, but he was fantastic the other night. Pulled off a reflex save that we'd be oohing about if it was Courtois and looked very secure elsewhere. Probably deserves a good loan to a Championship team but I'd be surprised if he was anything more than a future back-up for us although that's no bad thing.

Nope. I'm saying that rather than be a coward, why not actually call Jose what you are afraid to, maybe even in person and not behind a keyboard. And you're just another gloryhunter who does nothing but criticise. You use phrases like 'trophy drought' against our manager when he's spent this season rebuilding a fractured club, then dare to criticise him for calling Wenger a 'specialist in failure' when he hasn't won anything in EIGHT FUCKING YEARS. Oh look, someone got himself a book for Christmas . No mate, I'm not. I'm just a guy who is prepared to say exactly what he says on here in the real world as well. The thing is I have. I've proven to you that YOU ARE A FUCKING LIAR. You actually posted lies in order to besmirch the name of Jose Mourinho. AND IF I HAVEN'T PROVEN YOU'RE A LIAR THEN I WILL PAY THE FULL MONTH'S UPKEEP OF THIS WEBSITE. SO COME ON, TELL ME I HAVEN'T PROVEN YOU'RE A LIAR.

You do nothing but criticise. You contribute nothing positive (not even money to this site's upkeep) and do nothing but moan. Honestly, you represent everything I despise about a certain breed of supporters who arrived in the late-90s. But what is it you think he's turned into? Come on little lamb, have the balls to say it in front of the rest of the class. Even better, try uttering it at tomorrow's game. That'll be a nice little education for you, and an education is something you sorely need.

The fact is that Jose has praised Hazard a lot this season and given him a lot of responsibility in this team, which is one of the strongest endorsements he could give him. One bit of well-deserved criticism alongside that isn't 'throwing him under the bus' as some are suggesting. The maturation process isn't just about praise, it's about looking at yourself critically and learning from your mistakes. Some people don't seem to understand that. Eden making a mistake was crucial to our chances of going through, but I think everyone connected with the club expects him to learn from that in much the same way Oscar will learn from his poor form this year. We're a work in progress and that includes the players as well. People need to recognise that and have some patience rather than constantly criticising.

Don't believe that for a second. You've done nothing but criticise the manager and the football since you signed up. You're the type of gloryhunter that every true supporter of this club despises. You don't 'support' in any sense of the word, you just criticise from your armchair. You don't represent a single thing I know and love about this club. You wouldn't last a fucking second here.

I don't believe you. So you're ignoring 2012 Madrid when they scored a record number of goals. Proven liar. Wenger is also largely despised amongst managers, and opposition fans. He's widely mocked IN THIS COUNTRY. Once again you've shown you simply don't understand ENGLISH football.

Which we've employed how many times? Try watching the games and making your own mind up rather than listening to twats on twitter talk shit. We've 'parked the bus' in less than 5% of our games this season.

You're so far wrong it's a fucking joke. How dare you offer an opinion of what the supporters of this club think? You have no fucking clue. There is no division in my view, except for from a few cowardly shits on the internet who don't represent a single thing about this club. Mourinho has more support than any manager I can remember for a long time. You are a fucking disgrace.

I'm always amazed by the way people who dislike this club take a few instances of us 'parking the bus' and suggest we do it a lot. They did it in 2012 as well. Bravo.

That would be mine. They way we broke for that goal was beautiful. The closest one to that would be the goal against Bayern though, and I think that's probably the best example of the skill, pace and incisiveness that Mourinho has wanted all season.

All exceedingly true. In fact I've said similarly myself. We were the poorer team, with an atrocious midfield and terrible strikers. We were also 1-0 up. Against Liverpool had about 7 first-teamers out and gave a 20 year old his full debut. Yet we won that against all odds by nicking a goal and defending manfully with no-one making any real mistakes. If we get to half-time 1-0 and don't have to chase the game, would you back us to see the game out? I would. He made one big mistake that completely undid the good work everyone else was doing in that particular moment. Yes we were stretched, but if he simply blocks that ball from Juanfran and puts it out for a corner then we can get back into position to defend it. We may concede from the corner. We may go on to lose 5-1. All I know is that Hazard's mistake completely changed the structure of the tie. We were NEVER going to beat them going toe to toe with them. Our only chance was to defend like we did at Liverpool and look to get something on the break. We didn't do that.

For me it's once the manager has had a chance to build the team he wants. We've had midfield problems for YEARS and no striker worth his place since Drogba left. Now we actually have something approaching a decent midfield (Matic) and hopefully a proper striker (Costa). The squad has had a year under Jose to learn what he wants and they'll hopefully go on from there.

How exactly is it crap? Are we the finished article? Do we have a solid spine throughout the team, or are we still building one (with the acquisition of Matic and hopefully Costa)? Are we still trying to shift dead wood like Mikel and Torres? How exactly are we not in transition?

So who is the best manager right now? Guardiola? Klopp? Ancelotti? Simeone? The point is that you could go back to 2004, 2005, 2006, 2010, 2012 and maybe a few other years and see Jose having success. Seven leagues and 2 CLs means his record is as good as anyone currently working.

So now we're rewriting Jose's triumph at Porto? Fuck me that's desperate. Have you 'forgotten' that he won La Liga in 2012 with 100 points and a record number of goals? He only went out of the CL on penalties as well.

This is getting pathetic now. Jose is a fine ambassador of this club and good value. He's done more than enough to earn a bit of leeway and doesn't deserve 'fans' like you constantly on his back. I'm sorry if you think I'm picking on you, but in my defence it's only because I despise fans of your ilk and what you've brought to this club. He hasn't thrown Hazard under the bus but simply been honest in the hopes that Eden will learn from his mistakes.

He's a bad loser. That's fine. There's nothing noble in being a good loser. Jose isn't always right, but most of use support him. You never fail to moan and criticise him. You're a joke.

Well Luiz is a defender. You'd expect him to tackle better. Eto'o is a striker and Costa mugged him. Don't forget Eto'o got plenty of grief for his 'tackle' on Suarez earlier in the season which should've been a penalty because it was stupid. This one was just a guy trying his best and simply not being very good at something. That's somewhat forgivable. Ideally he shouldn't have been on the pitch in the first place but we had to chase the game.