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Ignore everything you said? Did you not clearly say in your previous post that you weren't going to bother answering any of my points lol and you didn't answer anything about how the Hamas leaders have CLEARLY stated it is their aim to eradicate the Jewish race (along with several other points I made in my original post) If anything I answered what you said on Hamas and the ruined buildings, I answered the 70 year aggression thing. If you have any other points I missed, write them in bullet points and I will respond. I will the articles as soon as I post this but by looking at the headlines. Hamas leaders have written in their charter all kinds of things about eradicating Jews from the Earth. Furthermore, it is a fact that Hamas deliberately fires from civilian locations and uses its people as human shields (in order to gain 'appeal' about their barbaric movement). As well as that Israel uses the technique of roof knocking to alert civilians to escape before the real rockets are fired? Does Hamas do that? Anyway I don't fault you for opposing Israel since you are arch enemies with them. EDIT: What do you mean by I have been taught? You think they teach this to us in school lol? I'm 16, are there not exceptions to the general rule? It's like saying Indians like cricket. We do, but there are some who don't. But it's generally true, young voters are usually completely misinformed. There are countless young voters (like the ones in the video) who vote for someone despite not knowing anything about them. Someone in my year (who is going to a EYP Cyprus) asked me whether the radicalised teens going to fight with ISIS are going there to get paid lol. Here's one story which we often talk about: So there was this debate outside school where we were trying to discuss promoting the usage of IT Technology in Education, and this person stands up and says: "We shouldn't use ICT as people need to go outside and be social." Then I stand up while making a really straight face and say: "I'm sorry but I'm really worried about you if you're being social while studying." I know you are, I can clearly see that . (read the above post as well) I luckily know some intelligent folks too, but socialists/progressives/liberals always target the younger generation as they are easier to fool. There are many well informed youngsters but unfortunately the vast majority know nothing beyond Hollywood and gossip....

And the people who did this: Who use those: to "shoot at random civilians for fun" as IDF soldiers admit are the oppressors. NO in terms of number of votes, UKIP got more votes than SNP. Parliamentary democracy doesn't represent which parties are more popular. Scare tactics? How is saying that Israel is protecting its civilians from terrorists - scare tactics? To me scare tactics seems like delegitimising Israel's right to exist. I see that you're using typical BDS tactics, which are going for emotional appeal rather than looking at facts. Showing pictures of the 'mighty,evil' Israel. As for the 'oppression of the Arabs and Palestinians' are you referring to the invasions of Israel by the Arabs who refused to recognise a UN decision? The same UN who you use as an excuse to delegitimise Israel's right to exist? Well first of all, also Canada supports Israel as for the anti-Israel UN, well the US funds that anti-Israel body too..... Anyway we can see what wonderful people these anti-Israel activists are (the people you claim that believe the Palestinians are being oppressed) from their actions. Attacking koshers, attacking synagogues and ofc all the other actions which portray the rise in antisemitism. (Not referring to the agencies you speak of, more the individuals who claim they are anti-Israel). As they say, Israel will always be seen as the oppressor, no matter what they do. People would rather see Israel stand quietly and allow their nation to be devoured by extremists, their people raped and murdered and their cities burnt to the ground..... But as Netanyahu said: "I can only urge the leaders of the world not to repeat the mistakes of the past. Not to sacrificed the future for the present, not to ignore aggression in the hopes of gaining an illusory peace. But I can guarantee you this: the days when the Jewish people remain passive in the face of genocidal enemies, those days are over!...[A]s PM of Israel, I can promise you one more thing. Even if Israel has to stand alone, Israel will stand." Here are some other pictures you might like to see: As for the final picture if your movement is so innocent and true, why do you need to make fake pictures of Israelis? P.S: The Hamas were the people the Palestinians elected, I think that's a good way of looking at the Palestinians right? You should read how Bret Stephens often responds to people who believe in cutting defence spending. As for your 1st paragraph, I haven't followed your conversation, but for the more money in pocket thing - I'll give you an example. During the Reagan administration, Reagan lowered the top rate tax. And it increased the tax receipt as incomes rose. Higher incomes means higher tax receipts, not invoking taxes that suffocate the economy and reduce economic growth and ofc ultimately lower incomes. It's simple economics, the more disposable income people have, the more they spend, the more demand increases, more employment in the economy and more economic growth. Since you're a Tory supporter, I saw this quote by Cameron: ‘True compassion isn’t giving people a benefits cheque – it’s giving them a chance." Wow so since you can't beat my argument, you pretend that I'm an agent. Typical of someone who has no response. As for the whole Israel thing, I've been on this forum for a few years now and this is the 1st time I've been debating about Israel.

It's not my fault you've not read the UKIP manifesto and actually seen their policies, but that doesn't matter Britian is waking up as now UKIP is the 3rd most popular party. So I'm not too worried about them. Actually talk to some UKIP supporters and you'll see what they truly stand for as a party. Yea a racist party which had an Indian girl promoting UKIP youth (and I believe even had a Muslim MP running in one of the constituencies). Didn't know a guy who believes in small government and freedom was a fascist. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ I am more than aware about the Israel issue, thank you very much. As a matter of fact, I wrote a resolution on it during my MUN (whole conference was full of anti-Israel bigots and had to hear all these people going on about Israel being an apartheid state). Dunno where to start since this is a huge issue. I had no idea first of all, that one of the most tolerant countries in the world, Israel, is eradicating Palestinians. While barbaric, savage, murderous terrorists like Hamas (what's even more scary is they were democratically elected) who were building tunnels to murder innocent Israeli children, are the ones being oppressed. Hamas leaders and their allies have all openly expressed on countless occasions, their desire to finish off Hitler's holocaust. Are you aware about how much aid Israel sends to Gaza and how many Gazans are treated in Israeli hospitals? Who would do that to someone they were so hellbent on murdering? Do you think any Israeli would be helped by Hamas? HA NO WAY! Israel gives them cement to build buildings, they build tunnels to kill Israelis. Oh those cruel Jews are torturing those poor Palestinians! You know that they literally show cartoons of Mickey Mouse YES MICKEY MOUSE being killed by the Jews to get children ready to fight Israelis. Those are some facts about the poor 'oppressed' Palestinians, and the 'evil' Israelis. And finally, Israel uses the iron dome to protect their people from missiles, Hamas uses its people to protect their missiles. EDIT: So to answer your question. Do you honestly believe that the Zionists are the oppressors while the genocidal Hamas are the ones being oppressed? RACIST STATE!?!?!? Israel is the only state where muslims can live freely and people of all faiths can happily practice their religion, while Hamas has stated this in their own charter: "The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said:The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!" Yea support these people. Support the eventual aim to eradicate the Jewish race from the face of this planet. The US sends countless amounts of aid to Gaza, WHICH HAMAS USES TO BUILD MISSILES RATHER THAN HELP THEIR OWN PEOPLE! They literally place rockets in UNWRA schools, the aid that we send to help Gazans is used to make the tools by which they aim to carry out their genocide of the Israeli people. The Americans even refuse to move their embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem as well as the fact that they fund the Palestinian authority. They're willing to open an embassy in Havana but not Jerusalem!?!?! "You know this." You know what I know? I know that the media is cunningly depicting Israel, a symbol of freedom and democracy, in the Middle East seem evil while depicts its genocidal, extremist neighbours seem like victims.....

Farage a right wing fascist?!?!?! Young voters are some of the most misinformed idiots, that would vote for someone without having a shred of knowledge about them. That's why lefties are always desperate to lower the voting age, gives them a chance to fool more kids. Or rather break up this nonsense and let states look after their own business. Definitely wouldn't be a good idea to create a fiscal union. Are you talking about the spirit to eradicate the Jewish race from this planet? People sure were glad with the Nazis' spirit to mercilessly murder people, didn't die away - right?

Saw this now. Not sure if someone else posted it. Jose Mourinho explains Petr Cech’s move to ArsenalSource: http://www.dirtytackle.net/2015/06/29/jose-mourinho-explains-petr-cechs-move-to-arsenal/ Petr Cech has moved to Arsenal and, of course, this makes me sad. This makes me sad. Petr was at Chelsea for many years. We achieved great things together, but now he has decided to go to Arsenal like a top race horse suddenly deciding to pull a manure cart on a farm and people are asking why. The first question is why would he go to Arsenal when he could go to any club in the world? Petr was with Chelsea for 11 years. He loves the club. He is 100% blue. But did he want to keep his family in London? Yes. Did he want to play in the Champions League, but not past the round of 16 because he has already won the competition with Chelsea? Apparently. Could his scrum cap be strapped on too tight, cutting off the blood flow to his brain and affecting his decision making abilities? I don’t know. Whatever the reasons, he decided that Arsenal was his only choice. Not because he loves Arsenal so much. Because someone else is now wearing his favorite shirt and the only shirt in his size at the shop happened to be red, so he had to buy a red shirt. That’s it. It doesn’t mean he likes red shirts, just that he is now wearing a red shirt and wishing it was blue. This is sad. Tragic. The second question is why would Chelsea let him go to Arsenal — a rival and maybe our nearest title competition? This is an easy question. Very easy. Because Arsene Wenger has never beaten me and he never will. He is a specialist in failure. I could give him my whole team, plus Messi, Ronaldo, and a 10 goal lead and he would still be so frustrated that he would push me on the touchline like a weak French baby man. His tie flapping in the wind from by my laughter. It will be exciting to see how Arsenal still finish third or fourth even with one of the best goalkeepers in the world, though. Of course they will have a strange number of injuries and all of their players will be too busy smoking cigarettes and making fun of Tottenham to focus on beating good teams, but maybe they will try something new this season. Like accidentally locking themselves in the dressing room at halftime or deciding that their fans paying additional fees to see the team score a goal would generate even more revenue for them not to spend. But Petr will do well at Arsenal. He survived Andre Villas-Boas and Rafa Benitez at Chelsea, so I’m certain he can deal with Wenger. Plus, he can always go to a bigger club after a little while like all of Arsenal’s best players. Which reminds me, Cesc Fabregas would have talked Petr out of going to Arsenal, but he was too busy kissing the Premier League trophy that he waited so long to win. And did in his first season with Chelsea. So good luck making the most of your new shirt, Petr. You’ll need it.

Indeed, I was unaware they were lies as that's what the MSM claimed. Just shows how the left fools people these days. Thank you for pointing it out! I'm guessing you're quite pleased with the outcome of yesterday's referendum. It will only be worth it if you pull out of the eurozone though.

So while we're making a reunion with players from the 2014 Spanish Champions and European Runners Up Liverpool are making are making a reunion for Southampton players haha Not much to lose in this deal as it's a loan! If it doesn't work out we send him back to France at the end of the season - simple as that. EDIT: The club site writes he helped MUFC to get to the Champions League. Lol over-hyping things a bit? Yup, bet he was dreaming of playing with Oscar and Willian..... ;p

Really excited! The site writes he helped MUFC to get to the Champions League. Lol over-hyping things a bit?

I believe he was referring to the tax evasion issues in Greece where billions of euros in tax was not collected.

Good explanation for those who are not well acquainted with the current European Debt Crisis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8xAXJx9WJ8

You have the season review man! Excellent! Why don't you upload it on a thread we have for our season review?

Welcome! Searched for your channel but couldn't find it..... Could you share a link to it?

Might as well just play the matches with our training kit....... My favourite Chelsea kit of all time is 08/09. Love it but unfortunately it just has too many cruel memories attached to it......

What's surprising is that we're not debating the situation in Greece. Referendum's in 4 days.

I'm doing ok. Only have two more years of school left and for the 1st time in my life I've realised that in a couple of years everything's really gonna change....... Scary but also exciting!

As for the final bold sentence, you're wrong again I repeat it's not my fault if you haven't read the case for the protection of traditional marriage. There are several good online sources and I'd highly recommend that you read them. As for the 2nd paragraph a lot of changes happen once you change the definition of marriage, again Brian Lilley described some of the consequences that are happening in Canada as well as their new sex-ed programme which is what I'd say 'discrimination' against religious families. Legalising same-sex marriage may now accommodate for institutionalised discrimination against religious people. So yes, it'd be nice if we could just live happily together as you claim will happen, but unfortunately as we have seen that rarely happens (if ever). Furthermore, regarding jokes etc, then again you're wrong - the politically correct police ensures that no jokes are cracked on homosexuals and viciously attack anyone who does. That's why so many comedians now refuse to attend colleges because of how politically correct the society is there. As for the priest, I was merely using that to crush your false notion that the those who want to defend traditional marriage are 'evil, twisted bigots'. Ik the left loves creating false images, but the reality is quite different. The only bigots are those who wish to redefine marriage, and they are given a free reign by institutions to say whatever they want, while any attempt to protect marriage is labeled as 'homophobia'. As for the 'force their orientation onto others' thing is complete nonsense. They simply wish to find a solution through civilised discourse, something which so many who wish to redefine marriage are strongly against. This is evident from their vile attacks on religious institutions. As well as they do their very best to stop their opponents talking by 'name calling'. As they say just keep shouting homophobe until you get what you want...... Weird isn't traditional marriage believers wish to engage in civlised discourse and want to let the other side express their opinion too, but the those who wish to redefine it will use every power they have to shut up the opposition. That's why the bakers in Oregon went bankrupt because a gay couple claimed that being denied a cake resulted in them feeling 'mentally raped'. This is the free and equal society you speak of? As for not baking a cake being homophobic? You can serve whoever you want!!!! It's your bakery!!!! Many of the bakers and florists literally even gave numbers to other nearby shops and told them to go there! And oh, by the way, recently some Christian organisation called up 13 prominent gay bakeries and asked them to bake a cake writing 'Gay Marriage is Wrong'. Did they bake it? No. Did they have their business shut down? No. Did anyone in the media even mention it? No. Instead they replied with hate-filled messages. While the Christian bakers (and also some Muslim bakers who refused to) politely declined the offers. Yet again demonstrating which side is being hateful.... Wonder who is being discriminated against here...... I posted exactly this a couple of pages ago. It's shocking when I hear some gay rights activists compare themselves to Dr.King. It's a disgusting attack on his memory and his greatness. What's even more ironic is that Dr. King was a firm believer in traditional marriage and his motives were deep rooted in Christian principles. I would recommend you and b]@kellzfresh, read Dennis Prager's recent article on: PRAGER: The Formal End to Judeo-Christian America Please elaborate cos that sound like Animal Farm's "All Animals are equal but some are more equal than others."

One of my teachers told me that the 1st ever Cypriot player played for Newcastle (which is why he says NUFC is his favourite team as he isn't a major PL fan). I googled Charlie George and it doesn't say that he's Cypriot. Yes I know some people here who's ancestors lived in London and they support Tottenham and Arsenal (my barber as a matter of fact has Tottenham clocks and calendars all over his shop!!! EUGH!!! ;p)

Boycott Divestment Sanctions.

I've never taken a selfie out of choice, I've kinda been forced into them a few times though lol Nor do I ever smile in photos. Always try to look serious.

Everything!?!?! ;p Wouldn't put it on Indian food haha

Yea those were some good days haha, I remember those minions @Tiwaz, made for us and the whole trend of having the same profile picture haha (Literally the only time in my life I've ever followed a trend haha) What happened to Tiwaz and also @Ankit? I also remember a really nice American lady who used to live in China that gave everyone here excellent advice. She was a really kind person (can't remember her username). Does she still come on this forum? Do you guys still do that hotseat thing btw?

Giasas. I live in Cyprus and I have to say there are not too many Chelsea fans here haha (most of the ones Ik are British). Although I often see a "Cyprus Blues" banner at the Bridge!

ah a BDS lover. So for starters yes, I am a believer in traditional marriage and no, my original point was regarding the SCOTUS. As for this 'fear mongering' homophobe nonsense, I didn't know voicing genuine concerns about how people could exploit, turning the definition of marriage from the union of a man and a woman to "2 people who love each other" is considered homophobic or voicing concerns about how this may result in people losing their religious freedom. I'm guessing you consider people like Ryan Anderson (not the NBA player) homophobic too. In that case I think you clearly don't know the definition of 'homophobe'. Homophobes are those people who go around making banners like "God Hates Fags" not people who are concerned and wish to have civilised discourse regarding the situation. If anything it's those who believe in traditional marriage who are behaving in a more civilised manner. Gay rights activists freely go around labeling anyone they disagree with 'homophobes' while despite all this demonisation of traditional marriage believers, they have kept their calm and continue to engage in civlised discourse. Ever heard anyone say anything about Dan Savage's countless hateful comments? I'm guessing the fact that numerous gay rights activists openly display bigotry towards those who disagree with them is of no concern to you, but however a baker who kindly declines an offer for a cake is a bigot to you. Just think about this for a moment, imagine if someone stood up and cracked a joke on religion or even went as far as insulting religion. No would even bat an eyelid as a matter of fact people freely and fearlessly insult religion. Almost all the major comedians do. However, imagine if that same person cracked a joke on let's say...................... homosexuals? People would rage with their 'politically correct anger', pretending to gasp and being highly offended on behalf of someone else. Forget that, you're labeling people homophobes for politely declining an offer to bake a cake!!!!! Wonder which side is bigoted here..... I'm guessing ofc you have no problem with a priest getting spat on in a gay parade (what's beautiful though was that the priest actually forgave them for that). I guess you don't have a problem with some of the ways that bakers are being bullied and having their religious freedom infringed upon. I guess you don't have a problem with some of the pictures which @Fernando posted. But ofc none of that is hateful but those who want to find a solution to this issue through civilised discussion are bigots, homophobes etc. As for the how you claim it won't affect traditional marriage believers, well that's wrong as it has - in Canada. This is being used as a mechanism to bully religious institutions and you can check out this video where Brian Lilley talks about some of them (as well as something he doesn't mention about the new sex-ed program in place in Canada). And yes there are valid points for both sides, it's not my fault if you haven't researched them and don't read both side's point of views. As for why I believe in traditional marriage? It has nothing to do with my religion - as I stated earlier, Hinduism makes no reference to homosexuality. Furthermore, many gay rights activists claim that it tolerates it. My views are entirely my own. They have been crafted through research and reading what each side has to say until I made my own opinion. Additionally, I'm not someone who'll just believe what 'everyone else does' like some lamb (there is a Greek saying about that) because I'm more than capable of thinking for myself. As for this myth that 'only religious people' believe in protecting traditional marriage because 'some book orders them to' is an utterly false notion. There are many secular cases to protect traditional marriage and I know some atheists/agnostics personally who believe in traditional marriage.

Well we are kind of starting to drift off the original topic now haha, I was merely voicing the concerns of traditional marriage believers. As for the final line, I still disagree. I still believe it is a state matter. As for the agenda, well I could argue that almost all media outlets have an agenda too Horowitz is an Isreali fascist? lololololololol I guess that's why he believes in freedom of expression and thought, unlike politically correct progressives. So anyone that wishes to protect traditional marriage is a homophobe? Wonder who's the fascist here..... Anyway speaking of Israel, the following news emerged yesterday "Four hurt after shots fired in West Bank Terrorist Attack" (http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Three-hurt-after-shots-fired-in-possible-West-Bank-terrorist-attack-407534) Another outlet claims that "The terrorist who carried out the attack, identified as 20-year-old Bethlehem resident Misun Musa, confessed under interrogation that her intention was to kill an IDF soldier." No real talk about this on the MSM......

This thread doesn't seem to be anywhere near as active as it was back in it's 'golden days'. I remember a certain section of members even got really angry regarding some member of the month vote because they were annoyed that posters from this thread were getting nominated lol