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Alright, but that must count for both sides of the coin. No wankfest before he proves people wrong!

Who needs to watch games when you have Youtube?

WTF?

But like, what is the average?

Hhahahaha, you also cant call them Jo...

You should thank Moutinho, we are derailing his thread afterall!

Isnt he retiring?

True, I always forget that there is only one 's' in Spanish!

Sandro played with Mano until he got injured, I dont know if he will have time to recover for Confederations Cup and if Fernando continues to do well, I fear his chance will have passed...

Sí, es posible!

Bump! How much are the tickets price right now?

Yo hablo español

LOL, Bayern just buy players for the sake of weakening other Bundesliga teams, they wont even use them!

Hilario, Ferreira, Luiz, Ramires, Moutinho, Oscar and Jose Mourinho. Yet they say this is an English club!

Of course I would, just because you havent seen him play, it doesnt make him bad. No one will choose the Fernando from Porto because he is 5 years older and played in Europe if he is the worst player... I am glad that people from Brazil staff doesnt have that European bias. Thank fuck for that!

Paulinho won Brasileirao in 2011, Libertadores 2012 and CWC in 2012. What about Fernandinho? He won Ukrainian League 5 times without any competition and UEL in 09/10. I dont see how this can be considered bigger... This argument of playing UCL is more than winning things in Brazil doesnt cut here. Thank God we are the ones choosing our own players and not Europeans! Fernandinho is not better than Hernanes and Paulinho and he doesnt deserve that immense preference you want him to have. He doesnt play where the spotlight is at and that is a shame, but it is ridiculous to try to undermine the other two competent CMs who are getting their well deserved chance in Brazil NT.

That is the difference between Brazil and all other nations. We have way too many good players, if you are not in the spotlight, you are easily forgotten. If Witsel comes to any country he will still be picked because there is no other contender at all. Hernanes has been excleent in Serie A, whereas Fernandinho had one good UCL group stage and that is all. It doesnt matter if Fernandinho is better or not, nobody fucking cares because it is not him that will make the difference, Hernanes or Paulinho are very much capable of handling the job. You simply dont pick a player who has proven fuck all to be Brazil's first CM choice.

I can see even further, Mancini to PSG and Pellegrini to ManCity.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL! Brazil will fail because we dont look at players like Fernandinho, Willian and Taison? FUCKING LUNATIC! :lol2: Brazil's double pivot will almost certainly be Fernando (Gremio) and Hernanes (Lazio), an excellent combination of DM and CM. With Luiz Gustavo, Ramires or Paulinho as backups. Ramires and Paulinho only played against England, the very first Scolari match in charge. Also, in a 4-2-3-1, with the attacking trio of Lucas-Oscar-Neymar and Hulk, Kaka, Ronaldinho or Bernard as options, there is no space for Willian who decided to fuck up with his career by going to Russia. Taison is just a joke of a player, he is no Brazil NT material. Brazil will fail because it aint ready and their top players are still way too young and unexperienced, not because we are giving the Ukrainian Brazilians a chance. Only Thiago Silva, Julio Cesar and Fred are ready for this World Cup, the rest still needs to mature (hoping that in a year, players like David Luiz, Marcelo, Fernando, Lucas and Oscar can hugely improve)...

I would be willing to pay something close to 22mi...

Maybe because two of the players you posted play in a different position and the other plays in Ukraine (a league no Brazilian watches)?

Swein? Do you mean Schweinsteiger? Alright, first of all, Javi Martinez is a DM, so that is already very different. Second of all, Schweinsteiger simply does everything, he is in another level and anyone you put besides him will basically thrive. You cant compare any team with Bayern right now! If you want a fair comparisson, give me Khedira and Xabi Alonso. One is rather similar to Paulinho (even though Khedira defend absurdly better) and the other is almost the same as Moutinho. Even then, Mourinho decided to play Pepe in many Barcelona matches to give the pivot more protection and try to contain Messi. Also, if you watched Dortumund's game, you will see how vulnerable they both were. Paulinho needs a DM with him because he is not one and so does Moutinho. They would never work together!

Not really, because Paulinho will neither add the defense protection a DM would nor the passing and creativity a DLP would. He is the type of player we dont currently use! Paulinho is really good, but we dont need him. He is not the type of player to play on a 4-2-3-1, specially when you dont have a player like Ralf (that kills himself to defend and get possession back) alongside him. Our best pairing is a proper DM (Capoue, Mikel, Chalobah, etc) and a great DLP (Modric, Moutinho, Benat, Oscar, etc)...

Pretty much, with a better finishing and slower speed...