Magic Lamps

Lamps has been unusually wasteful today, but still MOTM

Super frank, super, super frank super. would have knocked in the 2nd if walters had not get a touch and also enforced the penalty by brillantly teeing up mata. Once again game changer, guess who predicted that...

getting owned by stoke: check

Bertrand is on the wing cos he is one of the better crossers in the team. Ba is tall and strong in the air. Makes sense, even though I do not now whether it is clever to try to beat Stoke that way, we know their major strenght is their strenght and height.

You seem to have fun quoting my posts and writing some random facts and statements that have nothing to do with it underneath. My point was not to include Mata in the starting lineup cos he has been shit lately. There is no logical link between that and the fact that Mata did only play the last 20 minutes or so against QPR. I also do not see how Marin on the wing should mean Oscar in the pivot. My point was to use Lamps and Luiz in the pivot. The former because these are the kind of games he can make the difference in like against Everton. If you want to leave him out (probably cos u really seem to question his ability as one can tell from your posts in the player's thread) that is up to you. While also your funny reasoning is up to you, just tell me, why do you always need to quote my posts when you decide to run epistemologically amok?

With Lampard and Ba from the beginning we got a chance to win this, even though it is not gonna be pretty. Azpi-Iva-Cahill-Cole -----Luiz--Lamps---- Marin---Oscar--Hazard -----------Ba------------- In this kind of game a decent out-and-out winger would be extremely helpful. Shame we got none. mata's been shit for a while, should get a rest. Lamps is better starting and in this kind of game he could really make a difference once again. Ba is our only striker, hence picks himself.

Doubt they would make an immediate impact but in summer at least we have to buy a dm like capoue and a dlp. i do not know much about Extlebarria, but Capoue is about as classy as it gets for a young, combative, intelligent number 6 with all the technical and physical attributes. I am sure he would flourish here after some time, esp when we continue with this overrated 4-2-3-1. Here's a good vid analyzing Capoue's game on the basis of a match highligh video 8 tackles and 5 interceptions is already impressive in one game, but he does this all season long.

One last time. It has nothing to do with Lamps agreeing pay cut or being only a squad player or all this BS.

Whereas Mikel never was a striker, its true we should rather have kept faith with studge than with Torres. But he at least made us realize how brillant Kalou compared to him. He worked as hard as anyone and had a habit of scoring important goals. I'm sure with him instead of Torres we would still be in the title hunt and won the CWC. He surely would have caused frustration and some terrible misses, but one thing you could tell about him is that he would always make up for this with his effort and every once in a while score in a way only he could - you never could be sure if it was brillance or utter luck - boy, Torres even makes one feel nostalgic over Kalou...

Cos he would improve them. Even if they do not desperately need him, he would still be a great signing. As we would be worse without him, they would be better with him. Simple as that.

Tell me, which of these random facts you listed there has anything to do with the debate? It does not matter how many midfielders they got. They lack goals and quality in the centre. We also got shitloads of CAMs. Nonetheless Marin or Piazon make us any better. Lamps is 34. however. giggs and scholes were about as old in 2008. Both played and won the CL final that. year. So again, irrelevant.

I also doubt it, but it would be interesting to see him at Juventus. Probably they will not be able to afford his wages, but a midfield of Lamps-pirlo-vidal looks appetizing. Also in Italy there is far more respect and use for aging players. It would suit Lamps and he always liked Italien football. He could replace Marchisio, who is skilfull but a mediocre passer and an even worse finisher than mata.

???? Their midfield is shit. Lamps is far better and about as productive as all of their central midfielders combined, he would give them goals and quality in the middle, they would have a midfield general, Everything they have been lacking for ages. +they would have a reliable penalty taker +his ability of scoring late and decisive goals would be even more lethal in Fergie time Lamps would be about the perfect signing for ManU, that is why I hope he will not go there. i would not blame him, cos that is his best option to continue playing at the top level while remaining in England. its not that he was going to an arch rival only to a title contender. But as things stand we won't compete with ManU for titles till the end, cos we will find it hard enough to secure international football if we let Lamps, Cole go and sign weakish kids and coaches like Benitez.

He may not be majorly at fault, cos he simply is no more than an average coach with some ok defensive tactics, but a high-scoring win and losses in every big game no matter how bad the opposition is just seems to be very much like Scolari. Only because they won big titles ages ago they are no great coaches after all. Guys like Ancelotti, Mourinho got consistent success but benitez' teams had been shit since 2009. He took over two CL winners and fucked up with either's decent squad. You can blame Torres, but it is Benitez who picked him and Benitez who should know about his habit of going missing when it counts. Mata's been shit for a while now, reminds one of last season when there also was a stark contrast between his first and second half of the season.

Its so much like under Scolari. Pull of a high-scoring victory more than once, but lose all the important games.

Mata so shit today. useless corners, awful freekicks, horrendous finishes

Michael laudrup looks like charlie sheen

ha Oscar and hernandez in the battle of weakasses

I would love to see Luiz+Lamps+Mazacar+Ba at some stage this game. Michu cold as ice, what a horrible mistake, completely against the run of play.

One tiem Torres makes a good run, but Mata does not expect it and shoots himself

mata is sooooo wasteful. Lamps would have scored that.

Ohhhh yeeeeeeees, thank youuu sooo much, I would never ever in a hundred years have figuered out myself that Lamps took most of our set pieces. Well that changes everything of course, forgive me for being so dumb not to consider that. We have to rewrite history, zolayes figuered out that lamps took our set pieces, I have to drastically change my opinion now, god thank you, I mean how shit is it to be a prolific penalty taker, that makes a player so much less great, cos it is so easy, that is why mata tried it...and soon stopped, becuase penalty taking so extremely easy that it only spoils a player and should make every fan reconsider his opinion about players that take penalties.Yes lets always take away penalties from the goal tally. Yeah lets also take away tap ins, and why not also take away headers, hey, why bother counting goals at all?

The truth is that no-one knows what will happen to the club after he leaves, but the board are putting us in a pretty strong position for that eventuality. The type of fan condemning us to failure before we even begin this new period in the club's life isn't the type of fan we really need in all honesty. But Lamps is the player who transformed Chelsea from a good to a world-class club. We were worse before and will be worse after, cos the board lets the legacy of the old guard go to waste. The board is overloading us with weakish, wasteful fair-weather footballers and taunting everything the club stands for. Clubs with more history than Chelsea have given their legends like Giggs, Raul, Maldini contracts as long as they wanted and it paid off. Lampard is far greater than all of them but still does not get his. This is simply a shame. I have followed a decade without a title for German football. That has taught me to recognize the early signs of oncoming gloom. u try to find excuses for Mata's decline in the latter stages of last season again. Hence you confirm my point. I don't give a fuck why he went downhill (first season bla bla), fact he was not there when the team needed a leader, a big time player. So why should it be different now? My assumption of his performances and goal rate going down is at least based on experience, other than your idiotic "25 goals, 30 assists" season bullshit projection. Were it also you brain-wanking about your imagination of that infamous "25 goals 30 assits season" being bettr than Lamps's best? Lamps had 27 goals and 19 assists in 2009/10 + a decnet number of goals in international games. Wake me up when Mata has done that. I guess you can drop the act.

+ Lamps is the face of Chelsea, even more after the departure of Drogba. the board will fall out with the fans after Drogba, RDM, Benitez now even Lamps...? Sth goes horribly wrong there

The period of Lamps's absence (in which we won only one of 8 games) is an early sign of the longstanding darkness that awaits the club after his departure. You do not win anything without leaders (except maybe inGerman football, as there are no leaders whatsoever, but they have to give the trophies to someone). Based on facts, there is no-one who can replace him yet, neither footballingwise nor characterwise. At this point some people often use arguments like "De bruyne looks awesome", "Oscar can play in the double pivot" or my favourite " Mata is on course to a 25 goals 30 assists season. this is all utter BS. We do not know whether de Bruyne will even make a game for us again,w e do not know if he could fulfill his potential here, we do not know if Oscar can be only a fracture of the player Lamps was for us for over a decade. And the most ridiculous argument ever is this "Mata is on course to score 25 goals bla bla". Well, he also was last season in January. But you know what, we entered the crucial time of the season, suddenly his goals and assists began to dry up, his performances went downhill. So I could also say, mata is on course to be outscored by Lamps once again. Lamps, Drogs are natural born leaders, big game players, Oscar, mata, hazard are not.