Zinedine Iniesco

Shame on them for wasting so much money on failures money they could have used on players who were actually great for their system.So shame on them. Im not saying that they are a bad club.. You didnt understand.

Dont be ridiculous, you are confusing your self in an attempt to prove me wrong, and fail.Benzema wants to have a playmaking role, a very focused one, with the 3 chelsea play makers there, that won't happen, so CHELSEA IS NOT THE IDEAL PLACE FOR WHAT BENZEMA WANTS. If benzema leaves madrid it is because he is not THE starter yet, if higuain gets ostracized then benz might stay and score some 40 goals and 20 assists if we are to judge from previous campaigns. He wants a sort of freedom that here in chelsea he wont get, not good enough for benz or chelsea. There wouldnt be a majority vote for a new striker if it wasnt fact that torres is not enough, you can argue that until you fall asleep if you want, but a goal scorer who you can feed and play vertical football with is the answer, lets see if torres delivers, and if chelsea decide to leave him be. Please dont try to go around things, what i said is that benzema wont come here because it is not ideal, and that chelsea are arguably looking for a striker, and the type of falcao or higuain would be the best. Considering that there arent many players like benzema in a world class status if any, then a 9 is what you will get as the reference up front, thats it. I mean, can't you see the unsettlement and news around getting a new striker since people arent convinced with torres overall? You wont get benzema, and if you get a new striker it will most likely be a 9 thats it. Having benzema at chelsea would be a waste specially for him. And please dont get so defensive, "my boy" is a way to make conversation, im not trying to degrade you as a human being.. My main thesis has been said, and i doubt it can really be fought against. Look at benz in france vs japan yesterday.. he played behind giroud ffs. He is more of a playmaker/goal scorer than anything else. Hasnt scored a goal since september 2011 with france. not his fault entirely though. If torres comes though and no new striker comes in then good for you, but if you dont want to miss out on guys who have proved them selves like falcao and yes even higuain ( youd have to be a blind delusional to think he isnt proven, compared to torres at the very least) then you will go after them. If torres links up well and starts scoring goals then great, that may not be enough for roman though, what stops him from going after the most inform striker in the world?

His father also says that madrid is his favorite club since when he was little, but that he knows that manchester city and chelsea have shown interest. As i already said, florentino already is mending relations with athletico incase we decide to go for him, and considering the money we have, and will get with the selling of one of our current strikers, arguably we will have more than enough in our side to be favorites to buy him if interested. Chelsea are in the list of interested though apparently, madrid could end up with tevez if falcao goes to city. Tevez would accept a semi benching role along with higuian and even benz imo. Right now i still think chelsea are faves for falcao as i wouldnt want to have both higuain and falcao or benz and falcao due to the same bullcrap going on, id rather have falcao and someone else who will be a super sub, but madrid wont sell both. Chelsea are faves for falcao atm imo. Madrid is the lurking shadow in this.

TSK...Wrong my boy, the man wants to play behind the striker, or atleast not serve as a main goalscorer among playmakers in a clusterfck.It seems you didnt read well or didnt understand. This man wants to be the focal point of a team in a way in which he scores alot while also playmaking, with 3 people already doing the playmaking, he'd be cut short, can't care less what chelsea fans think they want or need when it comes to benzema if they can't understand that the way he'd play one of your oscar, hazard, mata, would get benched. With all the playmakers you need a goal scorer, why do you think you guys have this thread? Because you need a goal scorer, and if your coach was smart, he'd go after falcao or higuain. Lol using torres as an example...you guys have no reference upfront, benzema wouldnt come here to be cut short. At madrid he's near perfect ( doesnt make many runs a 9 would, but i think he'd adapt if higuain leaves), the problem is that he is still not undisputed starter, this is the last year this will happen at madrid, benz wants to leave because he got told by mou ( according to sources near to him) that he would start most to begin this season, he lied to benz, and now he's looking for a way out. Mou wanted higuain to play as the 9 apparently and its not working, so benz is coming up and if he "rules the world" and ostracizes higuain then even better for chelsea. Falcao wont come with benz here, and falcao and higuain will be up for your grabs, which is the ideal.

We are just too good for everyone The hate serves as only more fuel for the arrogance Love arrogance at a club as long we back it up, and we have.

Be Enlightened.

I didn't say that about modric, i said he'd go because mou wants him, cmon now, quote me and even then i'll show you you misinterpreted. Ya i was wrong about sahin, but you again missed the point, my point is that i said so many logical things and backed them up about chelsea, yet i got attacked, the message is for you to be a bit more open minded. And anyways i was wrong about sahin on just a little bit, i said he could leave or not, i wasnt adamant about him staying, i was adamant on the fact that there could be room, but it was a longshot.

Nope you misunderstood, people attacked my predictions which were made well with logical backup, with anger and attacked me because they thought i was in someway insulting chelsea by arguably aggressively saying that the idea of those players coming was not right in many ways, and in the end despite all the hate and drama, i was right, thats all.You went and misinterpreted and thought i was saying something else, so i suggest you start opening your mind up when reading what i post or else you will be confused just like many before were. There you go, people misunderstood my logical explaining for arrogance that in someway intimidated them. Well the point i was trying to make is that they werent going to come, some said they were just to say the opposite, some attacked personally, and in the end i was right, thats all. So much drama, to end up by showing that i was right, and that was something that many were able to take notice of, like today, i post something about falcao possibly being a target for real, and they start discussing as to why that will never happen, it is a defensive reaction when in fact im only posting relevant information linked to chelsea with logical backup up, but some feel threatened, and boom war begins, that discussion is correct though, what wasn't was the irrational bit i got before. I said maicon was arguably finished, was not a prospect for the future, didn't add enough, that modric was madrid yes or yes, and that hulk was ridiculous for several reasons despite some huge hype, and i got attacked as anti chelsea for going against what many thought was not right to go against.

I agree in part with the agreement, but most of all i am giving out this information because it is a fact that florentino perez has met up with enrique cerezo and gil martin on rebuilding relationships between the clubs.One year ago they were publically ridiculing madrid for the aguero saga, and now 1 month ago or 2 the officials from both clubs met and started talking about rebuilding a good normal relationship, opening the doors to real madrid. Now after this, both cerezo and martin come out and say that with falcao they will let him go wherever he wants, to who ever wishes to buy him, very different from the stance they had before, similar to how atheltic bilbao made it impossible for both madrid and barcelona to even dream of javi martinez. coincidentally after these statements from athletico madrid, falcao's father comes out and says twice that his son's dream is to play for madrid. Now if real madrid wants him, and if he wants to go there ( he has stated twice on video that his favorite club is real madrid) he will arguably be madrid's. Now i do agree that benzema offers more than higuain in many aspects and that if he leaves we should go after someone different to higuain but there arent any world class strikers out there who play the way benz does, so falcao becomes the only choice in a club that demands the best, now unless mou opts to go for a clear sub, or super sub, instead of buying the best 9 in the world then so be it, but considering that higuain can also score many goals and assists, benzema leaving doesnt make buying a 9 irrelevant. The doors are open, its up to the manager and president to decide if they will go after falcao, that is why they have opened the doors in the relationship in anticipation. Mou has said that benz and higuain will not get 50-50 time, one will win the battle early on, the other will be ostracized, and the one who is ostracized will leave. If higuain leaves and benz stays, then falcao does not come here, if higuain stays and benz leaves, i personally dont think its enough to keep only higuain. Only time will tell but the doors are open, believe me its not out of the world to see a team composed of falcao and higuain albeit they are similar in many ways.

He is loaned in shalke now, he was a guardiola signing, was injured, turned irrelevant with guys like cuenca and tello, and isnt a tito signing, could go to arsenal eventually imo.

He knew it but he is not happy, the problem with barcelona is that they have not brought the right players in their attempts to bring in players to maximize messi.Villa only joined barca beacause he wanted titles, now that he has problems with messi, with tito, he doesnt play, and when he does play he doesnt play where he should ideally, rumor has it hes even had talks with juventus, and this comes from a very close guy to villa's group of close confidents. They sold eto'o, they wasted almost 200 million on failures of ibrahimovic, affelay, sanchez, and arguably villa ( hed ba a failure if it wasnt for the 10/11 campagin) shame on them. Barca has been garbage at transfers.

I would just like to say, that now that i am partially back, that i was correct despite the hate by many haters here telling me i was wrong. I gave good, valid, logical reasons as to why some players werent coming to chelsea and i was right. I said modric was a no, he was a YES OR YES, madrid bound, and thats exactly where he landed. i said Maicon was a no considering chelsea should look forward, and he offered little to the table compared to debuchy or azpilcueta in many ways and i was right. And i said hulk was a no because he was overated, there were better options, and too expensive. And look at what happened. About mou to chelsea, i say he win the cl this season, and leaves either next year or the year after. he might stay until 2016 but if by the time fergie leaves, he feels his time at madrid is good enough, he will go to manchester united. Dont see city in the bloom unless chelsea and united have no space for him.

Also, how bout david villa? This guy is being ostrocized, the benefit of the doubt is being given to the fact that he needs time after his injury, but its fact that he has problems with messi, and has played 30 some minutes in 3 games, he wants to leave, specially if the rumors of neymar arriving at barca are true. Villa could and probably is facing his last season at barca. A 31 year old villa for 15 million, or even less, would chelsea take it? VILLA IS HAVING BIG PRObLEMS WITH MESSI AND TITO FACT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOxoStwv0w0&feature=g-u-u You understand spanish and the video above is fact that says villa is out. Unless he's given the place of undisputed starter. and even at that, his position at barca really damages his ability to do his best.

For the delusionals talking about madrid with no clue, please gain some knowledge. Only reason madrid is behind is because of lack of form, both physical and mental, which is steadily starting to disappear. Had we scored from the glamorous misses against barca ( could have won 6-1 for all that we know had higuain slotted in his chances and barca created didley squat, exactly like last match, and the whole season, and basically since late 2011 against madrid) could have beaten manchester city ( 5-2 had higuain slotted his chances and ronaldo as well ) and had it not been for very clear glamrous misses against getafe, sevilla, and valencia, you could say that at half steam we could have beaten the likes valencia, sevilla, getafe, barcelona, city, whilst under performing. Cl and Copa del rey is still open, and madrid's run like last year's might begin now in la liga. Barca will lose points, up to us to win everything. Have in mind, ozil has to improve, benzema will probably make higuain go into ostracized mode, modric will be integrated after given time, etc. This team will be king in knockout tournaments if they slot in their chances, la liga is simliar but ill form led to that. Look at madrid 98 ffs we were 6th, not even europa league level in la liga, yet we became champions of europe..only that this time madrid is much better and will surely fight for la liga, they have to if they want to provide the kind of form that leads to places. Barcelona is in more trouble, hopefully messi or someone vital gets injured, anyone who watches barcelona knows that they have played below par compared to previous seasons, and should have arguablly drawn against valencia had it not been for referee, and lost in sevilla, had it not been for referee.

Also you have to analyze things well when saying that he played bullocks, france played bullocks, the lack of creation forced him to be played in the area behind the striker, he never was the guy upfront, he was the main guy in a cluster fck which ended in failure. Hopefully they start understanding that it is best to put benzema not as sole striker, regardless of what a Di Maria -Ozil - Ronaldo -----Benzema-- would tell you, its more like Di Maria Ozil Ronaldo Benzema Di Maria helps defend, cuts in, ozil drives the ball forward with help from di maria, alonso, and khedira, he is good at driving forward, ronaldo comes running down the left, benzema controls while also commanding at front Much better than the dry france system of euro 2012 http://www.zonalmarking.net/2012/06/06/euro-2012-preview-france/ AHHAHAH Ribery provided width that led to nowhere, nasri was non existant, and putting malouda at the midfield would show you how lacking and desperate france was. Near the end of their adventure they change http://www.zonalmarking.net/2012/06/24/spain-2-0-france-blancs-double-right-back-plan-fails/ Still a disaster but could search for something at the break, and nothing else, and failed. France had no chance.

You see the problem is that we have to look at the big picture. If benzema turns into the principal striker of madrid he'd be able to score goals, and provide help to ronaldo which is the main attacking force, at madrid he arguably has a very good setup, he scored 32 goals and assisted 15 last season, if he had 1/3 or 2/3 more of the time higuain took from him he could have scored 40 goals and 20 assists, he can play well in the system, along with that benzema provides so much more than higuain, that in the end, if we were to choose i dont think there would be an argument for keeping higuain over benzema.The problem is that they have to share time, and benzema is getting sick of it, what he could do here, he will do somewhere else if given a good chance. If ronaldo would get injured is not enough of an excuse, if he gets injured then benz turns into the main attacking threat, which is even better for benz, higuain cant lead a team the way benz does, the perfect situation would be to have benz and a super sub, not 2 world class players who have to share minutes and stop them selves from "exploding" their potential. Falcao? I buildt an argument, as to why realistically, real madrid could go after him if benz gets sold, go to the falcao thread to read it, its all over the spanish media, shows, marca, as, el confidencial, sport.es, florentino is working on reworking his relationship with atheltico in an attempt to set up the process to buy falcao. in there is also the rumor benz WANTS to leave with valid reasons. As mou said, a club like real cant afford NOT having two world class strikers, the problem here is ronaldo, which wasnt a problem when we had MORIENTES, RAUL AND RAUL/RONALDO although the raul/ronaldo bit arguably started the downfall of raul's prime. Benz and higuain could play together but there is ronaldo. Benz and ronaldo is arguably the best partner ship in the world but it fails to reach its top because benzema doesnt reach peak because of higuain and vice versa. Lol higuain is selfish and never has been a big game player, benzema is the exact opposite.

By rule the planet i meant that if benzema does enough to become a starter yet again over higuain then that could be the end for higuain at real madrid because after almost half a decade of benching each other, this thing where they share minutes has to come to an end eventually. Hence benzema wants to leave because that declaration of being starter has not been given to him yet.If one striker prevails over the other, then that might make mourinho play that sole striker for much more time than the other, because the sharing of minutes has hurt them both in that they cant hit that form and stride an undisputed man like ibra, or rooney can, as a player. Hence one of benz or higuain will leave by the end of 12/13 i guarantee it, and for chelsea for me higuain would be a good idea at the very least, not benzema though. Benzema has stated many times he wants to be an SS type of play, he wants to be a mix between a 10 and a 9, he wants to give goals, while scoring them, hence his reluctance to make runs in real madrid a typical 9 like higuain would do. That means that since chelsea is filled with playmaker type of players like oscar, mata, hazard, going to chelsea for benzema would be kinda stupid. he wouldnt be able to play the way he wants, he'd actually have to play next to another striker in my opinion, while also taking the place of one of the 3 attackers mentioned. For the kind of player he wants to be, it would leave chelsea in a situation similar to spain's in which fabregas has to be the goal scorer while the whole bunch of play makers behind him struggle to really find a goal scoring reference. In madrid that isnt the problem since the main attacking drive runs through the left flank and ronaldo, while benzema backs it up while getting support though the middle and right side. Higuain for chelsea would be great, benzema would not. It could work but the whole front line would have no reference up front, it woul be a pack of creative guys trying to put a ball inside the net, like having mata, silva, iniesta, and a goal savvy fabregas, not enough imo. Look at france, nasri sucks so much donkey d!ck that benzema tend to play over him behind giroud even, to provide assists. Actually hes provided assists to ribbery and diaby i think it was. Let me add, that the leaving of one of them could lead to the arrival of falcao as weird as it may sound to some considering the benching issues. Imo chelsea might just add up with a striker from madrid ( falcao, higuain, and hopefully not benzema) i would not like benz to go to chelsea not only because i want him at madrid but it wouldnt be good to him or chelsea.

Look out, if benzema rules the planet this season, higuain might leave, and benzema might decide not to go after all.

That is why florentino is going into talks with them, the president cerezzo from athletico said that everytime a player leaves, he is never judged in a dictatorial way like atheltic bilbao did with martinez.If the player wants to go somewhere, and the club pay, they let him leave. Florentino has approached the sporting director in specialty and that can cause a big change in how the deal is done, making it easier for madrid. We will get revenue from the sell of either benzema or higuain too. So madrid have money. So i dont think that the club will try to block the leave all too much, specially if the player wants to go there, and real do their job at the offer. Look at aguero, he recently said that if madrid wanted him they would have gotten him, but they didnt approach him, and benz and higuain did a good job, the problem is, that the story is getting old for benz, and now he wants to leave. That's the story there. Madrid's two big no no factors, are that falcao could not like going into a situation where he may be benched, and that atheltico may not want to sell, the latter is being worked on.

Well falcao is without a doubt being followed by many clubs, arguably, chelsea may be one of the clubs who will go after his purchase next summer, but there's a side to this that i think makes the whole thing a bit more complicated for chelsea or any other bidders. Real Madrid will enter OPERATION FALCAO. Very strong sources are saying that karim benzema wants to leave real madrid @ season's end. Rumors are by some very close and respectable french links, that benzema has told those close to him that he wants to leave real madrid. It's been 3 years and he still isn't the starter, he is sharing minutes with higuain and that makes his ability to shine, to be downgraded. He has to share minutes with higuain and that has caused both of them to be a bit impaired on the pitch. With not as many minutes as other starters for other clubs, they arguably can't enter the same form as others, and their mistakes are much more magnified by the fans. Benzema say that he is tired of this thing where he has to bench at times for higuain, and that he wants to become more of a 20-20 player per season. He doesn't want to be a 9, he wants to roam around the box, help the link up play, he wants to play a bit more as an SS player of sorts, and this wont glo all too very well if he can't express him self in his prime years. With these rumors of benzema leaving, the rumors of falcao joining are getting stronger. He is the best pure 9 in the world, higuain has similarities but he has dissapointed just as much as benzema has in el classicos this season, and he hasnt quite shown he's an outstanding leader in the madrid attack, compared to benz atleast. There is something going on there, and atleast one of benz or higuain will leave, apparently benz has 1 door out already but has promised to give his best while at madrid. Florentino has also approached the athletico madrid officials to rebuild their relationship after several mishaps over last season and etc. Rumor has it florentino is now trying to make a connection with the athletico madrid officials to gain an advantage on falcao. If we sell benzema or higuain, as mourinho him self said, the club will need two big name strikers, and madrid could go for the best 9 out there, specially the type of presence madrid needs. Considering the selling of benzema which wont sell for anything less than 40 million, ( if psg goes after the french starlet we could maybe squeeze out 60 + ) along with the well documented talk between florentino and officials, falcao just may be real madrid's next purchase. With the money madrid is making ( madrid has plans to turn the bernabeu into a stadium straight out of star trek) and the money and nessecity that will come with benzema's leaving, madrid looks to be preparing to go full force for falcao. Bare in mind falcao has stated real madrid is his favorite club, with video evidence, and atheltico has to sell falcao, they are in a strong need to pay their dues, and i wont bother going into all the info on how athletico literally will have to get rid of falcao by season's end. Im not trying to add fuel to the fire but these are very real things, one of benzema or higuain will leave by season's end, its only natural, and we will need a replacement. That will bring in money to buy a replacement, while also the nessecity to do so. Florentino has (FACT) engaged in talks with athletico madrid officials last week, and there is more than enough reason to think falcao is first choice. Of course the main reason he might not want to come here could be because he will have to arguably get into a situation like the one higuain and benz are facing now, but he'd be part of the best club in the world, the best squad along with bayern munich's, and would probably be paid more salary as well. Madrid 70-30 will go for Falcao.

These classico matches include the highest level of football there is. Whether it be for other reasons such as personal measurement of entertainment, or pure disinterest in the teams, the fact is clear, and that is that these are the two best teams in the world, a clash of different philosophies, this has it all, you have to live in a little box not to be interested, but no matter, your loss.

Well i have decided to leave the forums until the season actually starts, or if i don't find reason to i won't return, period. The people here are far too narrow minded and foolish to be able to comprehend anything. I always stated logical opinions, and even facts under a certain context but there are foolish children like Spiegel,davidson, the orange guy, ollie, ( and i name them because they were the most reccuring ones , there were MUCH MUCH MORE) who decided to cry at any minute. To be Narrow Minded and Fickle seems to be the fad here, and that's a shame. Farewell..(no one gives a dam ) I'll see if i return, for now i will keep sanctuary at my beautiful Real Madrid forums, where not only do people have "brains", but well.. ya they have brains and with that comes everything else which i like... Shout out to Sh0n3x who will always be remembered by me as a worthy individual, very well done mate Cheers. Hala Madrid, i will have to see what i do with the chelsea fixation on my own for now. For the record, no one, even once beat me in any logical battle, i was always correct and was only attacked with jibberish that served as nothing more than entertainment for me. People could never nullify my arguments, instead they opted not to understand, and then to whine about it. The orange guy and ollie in specialty, thanks for the entertainment, the laughs, but i can get those else where the level of intellect here is astonishingly low and i wont waste my time here for the moment. I reign as king as champion, and dont worry i will return once or twice to look at the responses from anyone who reads this, wont reply ill just watch the simpletons give their take.. Farewell and Hala Madrid

Wait so what you are basically saying is that you are mad right? If only i could put that as a gif so you could see my exact response for all the jiberish you write..everytime you post that is

Cmon now ollie, did you forget to take your medication today? You seem much more angry today..your daddy spank you again? Cmon now ollie, you cant expect me to take your opinion seriously now right?