Zinedine Iniesco

Not generalizing about toure at all, stating a valid conclusion. the guy is almost 30 and there is no room, and that is also one of the reasons im not SOO enthusiastic about him coming here for 2-3 years and then goodbye, but for the time being he could prove well, and i see nothing TOO concrete from which i can call his transfer here a pipe dream, Let him come out and say no eh? You got nothing there again bud. I give you an F, back to pre-school for you.

Wrong, silva is a pipe dream, i judge based on positions, the past, the future, there are many tangibles which one needs to bring up, so once again you are generalizing here and i give you a thumbs down, disappointing.Regarding toure, anything can happen with him, he might still come here, barcelona will NEVER call him as they have no reason to. I can see him coming here happening.

I talk about possible players that have been linked with us, such as modric has with us, i have no idea if he will come here or not, but he is a player that would do us good.Ask him about his barcelona thoughts, only he knows the truth, quote what hes said about barcelona. I have never read anything as absolute like that come from him. He has never stated his desire to return to barcelona, nor would they get him back.

That is it, run away as you have no other reason or tools to continue in discussion.When i read things that are just wrong based on what i know, i respect them, but i attack them and bring them down if i find them wrong, and NOT ONCE, have i been proven wrong in this place and in many others, in real life, everywhere, because i never talk if i dont know what im talking about. If you see me in that way, then fine, thats just more of your opinion which i cant care less for regarding that topic and context. I post logical arguments, and win. I thrive in intellectual knowledge, but when i read stuff that is just wrong, i bring it down, and no one can bring it up. and then THEY LEAVE.

And by the way, i always imagine a team in a realistic boundary, i have to think about other factors such as the manager and club and history and style and current situations. I cant just talk as a "fan" whatever that means. thats why i puke at all the ridiculous van persie, rooney, aguero, silva, etc, transfer rumours linked to us at times by joke newspapers such as daily mail and the sun, and even marca. I always see things from as good as a view as possible.

So by now, now that you have nothing else to say you ask me this? I will answer it with similar fashion as before. I am not interested in possession football, here is where you have assumed WRONG, and incorrectly. I dont want ramires because he does not impress me, if mourinho wants a similar player he will get him but i dont think thats what he wants. You dont know whats going on inside my head, but you write in absolutes and ask question along those lines. Javi martinez, and yaya toure would be better additions than ramires, martinez is like a 2nd coming of redondo ffs, hed be a very good player. We play different football and a different scheme, we are vertical, those players would improve over khedira, and an aging alonso. Sahin-Toure Sahin-Martinez Alonso-Toure Alonso-Modric Sahin-Modric and dozens of more possibilities, it can only improve this team.

For the record when you post something, post it correctly, dont edit it, or else that seems like you are unsure about what you are writing and it may leave my response lacking as you keep adding to it. I cant care less for basque talk right now, sorry mate but lets not get into that political nonsense. We play at our own game and have done well doing so this season. Theres not much more to say. Its your view thats wrong. We wont ever try to play like barcelona, out football is quick, fast, and vertical, with priority on goals. Anything else?

Who says we are signing modric? Dont talk in absolutes like that.And then when it comes to the midfield and order of play, just because you are trying to find pieces of work in your midfield to improve in some way, it doesnt mean that you are trying to do the same thing. Do you watch modric play? He is similar to granero only miles better at certain aspects. Granero would be a good partner to alonso but he isnt secure enough at several aspects to surpass khedira as the partner of alonso. A Modrid-Sahin midfield for all that we know could do what ours can but with much more mobility, and ability to retain possesion of the ball, that though does not mean we attempt tiki taka ffs. You sound like you have no clue about our scheme, which apparently you dont mate.

I assume as i please and as i see fit. Your problem not mine.It's a familiar course as no one can beat me in a logical argument and instead point out to different factors that are just plain malformed, and i have proved it.

At this point we are getting off topic regarding ramires, and i cant care less for him coming to madrid and i have already stated so so lets just end it here, as this is not the thread for it. Go to the madrid thread or just look the other way after the following..Now again i find you rambling jibberish from your keyboard here. There is no delusional thinking under that context, atleast not from me or the club or the players. Mourinho likes hard working people and has fallen under a certain mold and profile of players but he adapts to the situation and has done so well here. You have still said nothing new, relevant, nothing. And then the 3rd paragraph, i can understand where that vision of yours comes from, and let me tell you that its wrong, its laughably wrong and this is all. Play at their own game? Open your mind and see the world as it is..no one is trying to out play them at their own game, you are looking at it wrong.

Please spiegel, as far as i know, under my guidelines, you know nothing about him under certain contexts, and all that have mentioned things about him have given me no reason to think other wise. Theres too much uneducated generalizing here.I just stated a whole lot of "truth" in my past post, and unless capricciosso or anyone gets into the discussion well, then there's nothing more to say, because im not wrong because theres no way to prove it. But i accept different opinions though, i find it under my right to bring them down though. In a logical sense of course.

Now i do get entertained from these discussions, even though the end result will be similar to the starting one ( the acceptance of my correctness) but um, i'll just put on the table some irrefutable statements that will rile your opinions into pieces at least in my view."Ramires is ahead of the 4 you listed" is a bleak statement that tells me very little to nothing ( i dont take statements down quickly, you either have some back up or what you are saying is equivalent to garbage from a dumpster. Mvila is an FM god?, Modric a rich man's mikel? Please boy please, this does not impress. I doubt you have the knowledge in your noggin to completely have a logical grasp on all those player's abilities your conclusions are bleak and thus irrelevant. The part about the muntari players is such a misunderstanding that you make the whole idea of how he works his teams a bit convoluted and one sided. He adapts to what he needs with his own style. Regardless of whether modric is coming here is true, he would only come due to mourinho, so in the end its all up to him but he knows what he has to do to win in several places, with specific styles, and so far hes left me personally nothing but satisfied. So for the 1st paragraph i give you a C- for effort. Technique is overrated? That is quite a bleak and irrational statement from my point of view, and if you want to generalize like that, then go look at what technique has done for Fc Barcelona specially since the guardiola era. He has to sign a well rounded player with the attributes needed to play the system we are playing right now. The fact that alonso's technique with the ball at his feet is low is a negative aspect. Lass is going out and he's all physique.. khedira? look at what happens when you dont have technique...you cant have the ball at your feet and you end up playing hoofball until you clock the pieces together to build a scheme which is what mou has built. Brash statements from you buddy. Don't generalize. Busquets is 10 times ( under a certain context of course) the player ramires is in my eyes and always will be. I give you a C- for 2nd paragraph for effort. 3rd paragraph is jibberish..and then 4th nears that as well, youd have to be dumb to think we'd want to play possession football. And then the anti football part is truly uneducated jibberish so..whatever. Try to give me some good insight. If that type of reply is what happens when i say ramires isnt anything all that special, then who knows what happens if i say other things. Ramires will stay at stamford bridge. Case closed. and imo hes good but nothing SPECIAL (i wont bother explaining). Mourinho has made this team play some of the nicest football ive seen from us, he cant just come here and do an inter and he knows that, and the numbers tell that. You have obviously not seen any of the recent classico's either, and if you have then you have failed to grasp a logical reality from them. Case more than closed here.

None of that and i mean NONE of that convinces me one bit. Ramires can stay at stamford bridge. Edit: At your edit , all that sounds brash, and malinformed from several angles, please now, come up with something good.

ill be stallone, you be russel :D

If only...theres still hope, as madrid would pay the highest, but we need a show of interest.

Atheltic Bilbao really doesnt want to sell to us. We'd have to pay the 40 million clause, and they arent willing to negotiate so that the clause isnt activated ( we wouldnt have to pay taxes).Toure M'vila Modric theres a whole lot of possible midfield options and i can assure you mourinho is looking at them, as lass will be leaving and will leave the nessecary spot, we cant let a midfielder go without bringing in a new tool into the tool box. Only way i can imagine bilbao negotiating with madrid is by an honest plead from martinez. Its easier for man city or bayern to get him than barca and specially madrid.

Plainly put his injuries at the start of the season inhibited his ability to have a successful season, then speculation occurs but i see things a certain way backed up by facts. I have no reason to think he is in danger of leaving, so that's that. Modric is nothing but a rumor, and i kind of doubt it will happen, hes like a better granero, im just not sure. And anyways modric wouldnt compete with sahin, i already explained this, Sahin is a DLP, i havent watched enough of modric but i assume that he could serve as a cm to compliment alonso, like granero does but in a world class form ( granero has liabilities in attack and defense but is overall quite good), Sahin Modric could be a possibility, and it could even serve sahin well, as the stronger midfield could give him more time and chances to play ahead of alonso.

:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: one for every one of madrid's european cups , but seriously...

Thanks for understanding mate, i came out reasonably well with logical statements, but the childish and comical statements and reactions by more than 5 or 6 people made me turn on THE TMO FACTOR, and it resulted in ownage.I recommend in future instances for those who dont like what i say, to just ignore me, or as i repeatedly said, deal with it.

i just bought it and uploaded this video

ya hes staying in madrid as far as im concerned.

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Ive done nothing wrong, and i know how it works, thanks for the reminder.

Has to gtfo along with essien to make room.

I doubt cabaye will go for more than modric though, and the modric deal is a difficult one.