i don't see it as all doom and gloom. Oscar is the big bright spot, and juve is a tough team, a point isn't too bad and it could have been better but it could have been worse. an attacking midfield of Oscar Mata and hazard will be amazing, we saw the link up play of Mata and hazard, the holding midfield is still a problem but other than the big mistake for the second goal it wasn't as bad as it had been. torres again did not show up and everything that was happening for him he was wasting. yes there are still problems but lets not go over the top, we will need to beat spartak and the other team (can't spell it) but this is the group stages and the future looks a bit brighter with Oscar putting his foot firmly in the door, when we get all our creative 3 in the team from the start we should do a lot more up top and especially hold the ball a bit more. could have been better but lets not go over the top, we played a lot better vs juve than we did vs qpr, and plenty of games left to try and qualify in first for the knockout stages