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Yes, Mourinho is planning to screw over every belgian player in his team. Next one will be Hazard. He's afraid Belgium will win the world cup, so he's already started with his destructive plans. Come'on, man, seriously... Like JM has a secret agenda to disable Belgium...?
Lukaku would've been easily 3rd choice, not playing many matches, at Everton he will be able to play every week. So looks good for his development.
Courtois would've been benched or Cech would be benched (most probably Courtois, because JM loves to play with experienced players and Cech is still very good) At Athletico Courtois can play every week in a top-team.
KDB is very good, but JM thinks others are better and KDB has proven in his last match others are better.It's still early in the year. KDB will get new chances to prove his worth. Otherwise he most likely will be loaned out, which would be good for his development.
JM does what he believes is best for Chelsea, not for the Belgian NT.

2 goals + 1 assist. I'll better start saving up buying Lukaku IF on Fifa 14 :-)

Jesus wept, some of the comment here are .
We are not a youth charity, if KDB plays it's because he deserves to on merit, not because he is a young player, Jose is not going to play him because some supporters have a fetish of the average age of the starting Xl being as young and inexperienced as possible.
You think he would walk in to Dortmund's team with Reus, Mikhitaryan and Blaszczyowski around?
KDB will get a game soon, and it's up to him to 'do a Mata' and show Jose he deserves a place, not the other way round. This is Chelsea FC not Kevin De Bruyne FC

no. big, huge, fat no.
Belgium has a soft spot in my heart and if Felipão wasn't Brazil NT coach I would support Belgium and Germany next year, but you can't compare the level of the opposition you guys are facing with most teams in EPL.
The last slightly better opposition you faced recently - a very shaky France - and you couldn't handle it. And that must be the weakest French side in 20 years... in addition to the internal problems they still have not completely solved and moved on from. Croatia, Scotland (sorry, Ry), Serbia and the rest of the competition you're facing might be giving you a slightly distorted perception of where you guys really stand in the whole thing. International football is completely different from club football. Why do you think there hasn't been any surprise in WC basically since it exists? Why do you think Holland hasn't won a title yet? Spain is the closest to a newbie we have, but they had tradition in the competition even if they had never won it until 2010, and they had won a Euro and had had a few very talented and inspiring generations before. I can't exactly pinpoint what the reason is, but tradition weights a lot in WC business. When was the last time we even had a team that isn't among the traditional ones to reach a final? Looking back I can't say, I probably wasn't even born.
I understand your enthusiasm though. You have very talented players in all zones (something I suppose never happened before or at least not to this extent?), but that doesn't automatically transform you in a big name in international football and that definitely doesn't make you compete easily against the sides of the most competitive league in the world. It's literally a different league... But if a 'newbie' is to ever surprise the world and win the WC without ever being competitive on it before, then I hope with all my heart, it's Belgium next year
Now on Kevin
I read a few things here and they don't make sense to me. Honestly...
Everyone complaining that Willian took his chance away... as far as I remember Willian played two matches for us - one of which Kevin also played. So while in theory your argument is good, in reality that's not what's happening. Kevin isn't playing because of Willian. Kevin isn't playing because of Kevin and to a certain extent, André, Mata and Hazard. He just didn't show enough to displace any players in the starting eleven - not even Eden Hazard who has been anything but impressive so far.
He was very good against Hull, but that was it.
His less than remarkable match against United shouldn't be excused by the tactics or the rest of the team's performances. He - like Hazard, Oscar and André - could (and should) have shown better football and he simply didn't. Actually among the four he was the one with less contribution to the match. So if the whole team was below-par he was among the ones that did the least to change that.
Then he had his chance against Swindow and he completely wasted it. Then the excuse given here is that it was his first match in a month. Well Mata had been playing very little by then and he took the chance and did the best out of it.
What de Bruyne needs is realize that he's going to have to fight for his position here - something he didn't have to do in Genk, Bremen and in the NT. Maybe he isn't used to not being the manager's sweetheart or he is disheartened by not being selected for a match that right now is very important for us and to which we should use our best players and have in our bench players that have experience in UCL.
I'm not saying he has an attitude problem, I'm saying he's facing something he hasn't yet in his senior career. The fact that he isn't used to being benched is an opportunity for him to grow and learn how to deal with it. I hope he accepts it and fights for his position rather than lose motivation and sink.
Also we've played what - 9 official matches this season? Did he or didn't he take part of one third of that?
Every single match will have one of our AM not selected to be even in the bench. So we should stop reacting every time one of them isn't. There's only 18 players that can be selected, 6 of which in the bench. We have 3 AMs spots in the starting eleven and 6 guys for the position. It's simple math and common sense to say we won't use 50% of the spots in our bench to cover only one of the FIVE positions we have (goalie, defense, pivot, midfield and forwarders).
He will continue to have chances - but the amount may be directly proportional to what he's been showing not only in matches he does have a chance to play, but also in the training sessions.
IMO reason he's with the U-21 team now is so that Mourinho and his team can concentrate in the tactics and preparations for tomorrow's match. It's better for his physical condition to train with the u-21 rather than not training at all. We lost a home match in UCL and no matter how weak our group is we now have to focus in the away matches to make up for that loss and prepare to them much better - especially against the supposedly weakest side in the group. Mourinho is closing up the group that will take part tomorrow. In Brazil we call it Concentração (concentration) and that's pretty intense and focused (sometimes the players even travel somewhere and are full time with the managers, not even going to their houses after the training, but remaining together in a hotel) and it's a common thing to be done ahead of really important matches or when a team is going through a bad patch. While I don't think we'll be isolating players from their routine - it'd be an overreaction - I do believe Mourinho wants to work with the 18 players he's going to use or at most with the ones he isn't sure will be or not part of the 18. Clearly he already knows Kevin isn't part of those 18. And I actually agree he shouldn't be selected for tomorrow - but I expect him to take part of the Norwich match, maybe even starting it.

Yes, Mourinho is planning to screw over every belgian player in his team. Next one will be Hazard. He's afraid Belgium will win the world cup, so he's already started with his destructive plans. Come'on, man, seriously... Like JM has a secret agenda to disable Belgium...?
Lukaku would've been easily 3rd choice, not playing many matches, at Everton he will be able to play every week. So looks good for his development.
Courtois would've been benched or Cech would be benched (most probably Courtois, because JM loves to play with experienced players and Cech is still very good) At Athletico Courtois can play every week in a top-team.
KDB is very good, but JM thinks others are better and KDB has proven in his last match others are better.It's still early in the year. KDB will get new chances to prove his worth. Otherwise he most likely will be loaned out, which would be good for his development.
JM does what he believes is best for Chelsea, not for the Belgian NT.

Yes, Mourinho is planning to screw over every belgian player in his team. Next one will be Hazard. He's afraid Belgium will win the world cup, so he's already started with his destructive plans. Come'on, man, seriously... Like JM has a secret agenda to disable Belgium...?
Lukaku would've been easily 3rd choice, not playing many matches, at Everton he will be able to play every week. So looks good for his development.
Courtois would've been benched or Cech would be benched (most probably Courtois, because JM loves to play with experienced players and Cech is still very good) At Athletico Courtois can play every week in a top-team.
KDB is very good, but JM thinks others are better and KDB has proven in his last match others are better.It's still early in the year. KDB will get new chances to prove his worth. Otherwise he most likely will be loaned out, which would be good for his development.
JM does what he believes is best for Chelsea, not for the Belgian NT.

As a fellow Belgian, I understand you fanboyism, as it's since long that we have some topplayers in Europe. But you got to realise that for every non-belgian fan KDB (or Lukaku for that matter) is just a soccerplayer like the next one. He got his chance and didn't take it. Too bad for him, better luck next time.
Mourinho's hired to make Chelsea win and get trophies, with his best team by his opinion. KDB just doens't look ready yet to play at Chelsea.

Yes, Mourinho is planning to screw over every belgian player in his team. Next one will be Hazard. He's afraid Belgium will win the world cup, so he's already started with his destructive plans. Come'on, man, seriously... Like JM has a secret agenda to disable Belgium...?
Lukaku would've been easily 3rd choice, not playing many matches, at Everton he will be able to play every week. So looks good for his development.
Courtois would've been benched or Cech would be benched (most probably Courtois, because JM loves to play with experienced players and Cech is still very good) At Athletico Courtois can play every week in a top-team.
KDB is very good, but JM thinks others are better and KDB has proven in his last match others are better.It's still early in the year. KDB will get new chances to prove his worth. Otherwise he most likely will be loaned out, which would be good for his development.
JM does what he believes is best for Chelsea, not for the Belgian NT.

It's still September. It's a long season. If he deserves another chance and can improve the team, then Jose will play him.
Again, Jose manages for the benefit of Chelsea Football Club, not Kevin De Bruyne, not Juan Mata and certainly not for the Belgian National Team. If you want Jose to make decisions with the purpose of helping Belgium out then you guys can pay him...I assume his wages would be about 10% of your GDP though, so maybe be careful with that.

Because he didn't give KBD as much game time, as Belgians want? Ridiculous. It's a Chelsea F.C., not a Belgium N.T.
I would like to see Kevin play more, but it's unfair to say, that Mourinho didn't give him chance to prove himself.
He must do, what Mata did. To be patient, wait for chance and when he get his chance, grab it with both hands.

http://www.vier.be/voetbal/videos/schotland-belgi%C3%AB-0-2/71236

Couldn't it be possible Lukaku himself wanted another loan? After some disappointments of being benched (and maybe the penalty miss against bayern) and eto'o, he wants more playing time, with his thoughts at the WC 2014?
Would've loved to see him stay, but for his own development, it's better. Sitting on a bench and playing 15 minutes in the end, will not do so much...
Jelavic didn't do much last season and Kone isn't that good, so he would be able to get the nr1 spot pretty quick.

Hell Yeah, even Verheyen was crap and he is retired for years now!
:goober!

Only when he stops asking for the ball while he's surrounded by 3 defenders, he can play for Chelsea :-) But only then!

1. I'm Belgian and would love to see Lukaku and Hazard succeed at Chelsea.
2. Lukaku may be playing ok now, but scoring a pen isn't that special and a graph doens't say it all. (based on MOTD) He's got this annoying habbit in playing. It looks like he's always waiting for the ball and complaining not receiving the ball, waving with his hands about. His first touch is terrible and remains to be so. How much I want him to become a beloved striker for Chelsea (and Belgium), imo he's nowhere near what a striker is supposed to be to play for Chelsea. He'll get there (hopefully and probably) but it will take some years. Not in January.
3. Damn you, Hazard, step it up FFS! The best we have ever had and his lack of commitment (or so it seems at times) is so damn frustrating. "He's 21..." Blabla; he's lazy and it's catching up with him... Hope he'll get his shit together!

1. I'm Belgian and would love to see Lukaku and Hazard succeed at Chelsea.
2. Lukaku may be playing ok now, but scoring a pen isn't that special and a graph doens't say it all. (based on MOTD) He's got this annoying habbit in playing. It looks like he's always waiting for the ball and complaining not receiving the ball, waving with his hands about. His first touch is terrible and remains to be so. How much I want him to become a beloved striker for Chelsea (and Belgium), imo he's nowhere near what a striker is supposed to be to play for Chelsea. He'll get there (hopefully and probably) but it will take some years. Not in January.
3. Damn you, Hazard, step it up FFS! The best we have ever had and his lack of commitment (or so it seems at times) is so damn frustrating. "He's 21..." Blabla; he's lazy and it's catching up with him... Hope he'll get his shit together!