BlueLyon
MemberEverything posted by BlueLyon
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Well CHO didnt start but Sarri was right with this lineup because we are playing absolutely brilliant. Not.
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He will learn so much sitting on that bench indeed. We are in super shit form and the club still wont play a single talent that might save the season in terms of establishing young player into the first 11. I always said that sometimes a season when we make new "John Terry" would be equaly great for me as winning the title. Making a new player who succeeds in first 11 brings as much joy as club winning title, at least for me. We won shitload of titles past 10, 15 years and not a single successful youth product since Terry. We could save the season by trying this with CHO who clearly has talent, but the club is too shortsighted and will play crap aging players to have bigger shot at results, but in reality they are so bad that we would probably win more if we gave CHO a run of 10 plus games. We might lose some in the start due to his inexperience, but it would repay us after a while. Its not like we are winning with our senior players either, so I dont see a single explanation and yet the club still plays them.
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Is Rlc injured again?
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If they reported gross fee, then it should be around 260k. Because he will be paid by italian club in italy, not uk. 400k might be gross in uk, but this deal has nothing to do with uk, its public misleading and done for publicity.
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Agresti is very reliable for juve releated stuff and Di Marzio for serie a in general. Both quoted deal is 7mio per year net (12,6m gross in italy) + bonuses. I believe those two more than Ornstein who just unloaded load of crap to make a hot topic. Who would believe Juve would pay Ramsey double what Dybala gets? Even for free deal, that would be ridiculous and completely destroy juves player fee structure. Kaboom.
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Yeah but Dortmund team impressed me many times. Pulisic never to a point I would say wow what a talent. Tonight he had a rare chance to impress and lead the attack, but he failed to deliver. Not that I expected much from him anyway.
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He is going to be on around 150k-200k pw. The 400k is completely invented by british press.
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Completely invisible the second half. Everytime I watch this guy he fails to impress. And we forked 60m on him
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Due to Reus injury, he will be starting against Spuds. Interesting to see how he does against them.
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I expected some realy bad defensive performances where we get destroyed and I even said it when we signed Sarri for fans to beware of this situation. It wont be Sarriball instantly,but will take at least two seasons to kick in. Whenever you decide to turn defensive team into high line pressing one, expect some teams could ridicule our defenders. BUT that said, I didnt expect THIS big defeats. 4:0 against someone like bournemouth or biggest loss in our PL history like 6:0 vs City. That was way way over the line and it makes you wonder if this is necessary evil for better tomorrow or plain suicide. 3:0 against some big rivals or something like 2:0 against average teams is fine all things considered, but we were murdered and disgraced by City and Bournemouth. Maybe Bournemouth loss alone could be explainable, but then City loss soon after, dunno its becoming a pattern and not some freak moment (like Pep lost to Everton 4:0 in first season) Also Jorginho gets shut down way to easily and our attack is painfuly slow and uncreative. Its hardly a progress and its hard to be optimistic. Even for first season under Sarri, we could show some more spark in attack. I guess next three games (not counting malmo fixtures) are make it or break it for Sarri. The club lacks patience, however I think we should give him some trust and time, but if we end up on 4-5 heavy defeats in such short time, there is no coach in any club in world surviving this.
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He is indeed fantastic player, but far less complete than Hazard for example. Mbappe thrives on collective game with his positioning, he needs creative team mates and he needs space. He is quite useless if opposition parks the bus. Hence I dont think he would be anywhere near as successful here. Mbappe right now is in form for Paris and we are big mess, its unfair to compare the two. Mbappe would be out of depth here too if he played for us right now. Hazard can score, assist, create, break defenses and much more. Mbappe is clearly the better finisher and his positioning is way better too. That said Mbappe is young which is even more exciting and he scores alot of goals. Hazard was ripping league 1 too when he was a kid. If you compare the two when both are at their best, both are world class and all Im saying is fans should appreciate us having this kind of player.
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And this is nice example how people are so naive sometimes. Mbappe is this and that and superstar and world class and oh my boy what a player blah blah blah. Hazard on other hand meh good ok player, has his days but realy inconsistent, not a leader, overrated, was never realy that great,... If only same people watched both week in week out with some sort of objectivity and without "their grass is greener" mind, the conclussion would be that both are absolutely fantastic players, but also both can dissapear in games (like every world class player does sometimes) Its mind boggling how some Chelsea fans dont rate Hazard, but lick the arses of half of players we dont have.
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Defending is collective thing and indeed both Kante, Barkley but also entire back four, specialy Alonso close the space incredibly bad. Dont know if they are just shit or its hard for them since this is new system, but either way its not just Jorginho fault. PS: Alonso is definately shit though. Its unfair to blame Jorginho for defense. He isnt anywhere great, but he cant keep the line alone. There is a whole mountain of points where Jorginho is at fault though, but defense is absolutely collective thing and they are all to blame.
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I keep reading we should sell him and then build a better team with that money. Should he leave, we would have to bring players like Koulibaly, Coutinho/Fekir, Pepe and Chilwell to improve "as a team". And I didnt even mention a striker. Anyone who thinks we will be anywhere near good with just straight Isco/Coutinho/xyz for Hazard doesnt know a thing about football. Thats downright midtable if we do only that. Like Hazard or not, he is still the best PL player three quarters of every season. He has indeed shit games too, but caries us in majority. There isnt a single player that could do that in straight swap. Not anyone that is available to us. So we would definately need a couple of top players. But obviously we wont get that much for Hazard and we wont invest that much to bring 4 quality players. We are pretty much fucked. Wouldnt worry if we had DoF who would sort it over 2 or 3 windows, but with current board I expect some quick fixes who will turn into overpriced flops.
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We have about 1/3rd less cash each summer compared to City, so yeah they can beat us there any day. BUT if we had smart board, we have enough cash to make great side. However we get rid of quality talent all the time and buy overrated shit. We dont have a DoF that would make some sort of plan for at least 2 summer windows and solve our key issues systematically. We also splash cash on overrated or unproven and overpriced players. 40m on Drinkwater? 60m on Pulisic?,... We are somehow ready to splash 70m on Morata and 70m on Kepa, but at the same time we are not ready to pay bit more for quality unless its direct replacement for someone leaving. Our expensive additions came in Kepa who replaced Tibo, Morata who replaced Costa and Jorginho who replaced Bakayoko who replaced Matic. Pulisic I have feeling will be Hazard replacement if he leaves. I have to wonder what did board expect in summer when they appointed Sarri. Sure he got Jorginho, but we also saw Kante shifted in different role, Azpi in entirely different system (both very consistent previous seasons), fullbacks who are realy bad for Sarri football, Morata who was just shit. Same goes for our players on RW. Then cherry on top, our midfield who should be extremely solid with all those players, turns to be our weak point after few months. No defensive stability, no creativity etc. In other words, if this club wants Sarri to succeed, either they have to spend like crazy or spend realy realy realy smart. I dont think we have capacity to do either.
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First things first, Alonso and Barkley have zero quality to be anywhere near first 11. Both are good enough only for cup games and bottom of the PL. Thats where we should start in summer. There is no excuse that Alonso got his extension. He can rot on the bench for few years, but the board shouldnt be that stupid to not buy new LB just because of Alonso contract. Its obvious any good club would replace him as soon as possible. If he remains our LB next season, we are definately done as elite club. Then you have to deal with CB (Luiz), (DM) Jorginho, (RW)Pedro/Willian, (ST)Higuain, maybe (LW) Hazard if he leaves,... Oh what fun.
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Busquets and Barca is actualy nice example. No way were Xavi and Iniesta defensive masterminds, it all came to collective defending. Entire team pressed the opponents and it did the trick. Also they had most of possesion, so they had much less defending to do. At Chelsea we still dont know how to keep possesion. When opponenents let us have the ball, we do nothing with it and when they press, we lose it quite quickly. But more importantly, our collective defending is shite. Jorginho like Busquets is our holding man, but unlike Busquets he has little help. Kante is often way too far, Barkley is useless in defence, not to mention Alonso who is never where he should be. Hazard has to cover up for his ass which is a disgrace. If our back 4 and both midfielders closed space, Jorginho wouldnt be as exposed as he is. He is weak and slow and will never be fantastic DM, but if whole team cooperated in defense, he would look much more solid. I cant realy fault him for his defense, because that simply depends on whole team. His offense is weak though. No excuse for him to hoof the ball in the stands when he has the time to execute a perfect pass. He gets pressed often, but I have seen it every game he is completely free with alot of time and he completely fucks up a long pass. Thats individual quality and he seems to have zero confidence in him. Either that or he is simply not the player we thought he is when we bought him.
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His defensive and offensive contribution definately depend on collective game too, but I can say his long balls are beyond shit for a while now. For someone who plays a role where you have to be pass master, his long passing is realy realy bad. He just flicks them way too hard and they end up too far ahead of our players. Not to mention his short passing. He has this weird habbit of rarely passing the ball on the ground. He hoofs it in mid-air and its hard for his teammates to control it.
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I remember when Drinkwater had an ok game (scored a nice goal) against shit opponent and people were already "must play this guy ahead of Cesc, he can be great blah blah. Dont know if some are just so naive or wanted to comfort themselves over the fact we forked out 40m for him and he just has to be this good.
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You need a manager that can adopt to PL, can apply his style and likely has to integrate youth. He needs player to follow him no matter what. Also the board needs to back manager with everything available. Need this player? Ok, we will get him. And for that you need competent DoF. We seem to have nothing. Im all for sticking to one manager, but first we need Dof and board that will provide full backing of whoever they bring. Just like we lost 6:0 and its easy to call Sarri and players a joke, the board and club are one massive joke for a while now, except they hide behind the squad and manger and blame them for everything.
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Id take 3:0 defeats, shit happens. But 6:0 is our record in PL and it comes after 4:0 defeat to bournemouth. We are a fucking joke now. I have honestly a feeling that Chelsea is becoming Milan of premier league... Doubt there will be a revolution and we will be back to best. Just too many problems from owner, board, manager to players. Once Eden leaves, our reality will be 6th place behind every big team in england. Maybe after 5 years or so we will return like Pool did if board finaly get shit together and build a team instead of spending money left and right with no plan. Sad time.
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Lol not even close. The quality of the league isnt anywhere near 2004-2010. Its like juve. They are winning title after title because league is a joke. Put them in gold age of serie a, they wont be anywhere near dominant. Until they win CL and at least another title ahead of Pool, they have no business being touted best PL team ever. They were a joke in europe so far, lets see how they do this year.
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They didnt score for 10min now guys. Lets celebrate
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Hazard surrounded by Alonso and Barkley. Wonderful way to get the best out of your player Sarri.
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Alonso doesnt know what his name is right now, nevermind where is the ball.