

BlueLyon
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I cant imagine him as cam, it looks like Real would play Benzema as CAM instead of Ozil. In that position, we need someone who can dictate our play; Mata. Hazard is too young, Jovetic is more striker or supporting striker. He has good shots or passes inside penalty area, but he is not that precise passer and crosser like Mata. He wont exchange several passes with either Mata or Hazard on wings, because he would prefer to shoot on goal. And we need someone who likes to pass more than to shot. Would be good backup, but he is too expansive for that, since we are nearing to get Oscar and Hulk. At least thats the feeling I have...
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Converting Oscar could be bad decision. He has that attacking minded play and if we give him defensive roles, he will not excell in neither, offence or defence. Perhaps I am wrong, but change of league and country will be big enough for Oscar, if he gets different position, he might not evolve his potential. Definately, we should first only try playing him as CM, then see how he feels in that position. I guess, he wants some free role around midfield area.
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What was the only problem (or advantage on other side) with our old guard was that they were brought not realy young Anelka, Ballack, Malouda, Drogba all arrived when they were 26yrs plus. Lampard came at young age, or Cech, but there are many players, we couldnt use for more years, like Beletti, Deco, Sheva,... This having Hazard, Marin, Oscar, Luiz,...is new generation that is created with different intentions. Sure ending point is winning trophies, but old guard, Mourinho team or whatever is called was brought together to win PL and after it, CL. It didnt matter how, just win it in shortest possible time. This generation is made of great talents; it will be required longer time for them to win anything. The point is not win CL anymore, but play nice football, one that soon everyone will love. And with such style, trophies will arrive in few years. When Mata will be 26, we already might be one of teams with beautifulest and dominating football, while Drogba just arrived at age 26. Imagine how much could then Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Luiz, Cahill,...achieve. Certainly project worth a lot of attention.
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Silva is more calm on the ball, plays one dimensional football and can tackle bit better, while Mata is younger and will get that calm passing and decision making, but he is already better dribbler and has ways to outrun opponent. I think they could be compared like Xavi and Iniesta. Both are unique and needed, but Silva suits Xavi more since all he does is more certain, while Mata (Iniesta) has faster play and more unpredictable. In the end, Silva is experienced player and has probably more stamina than Mata right now, maybe more balance, but Mata is two years younger and by age 26, he will get all what Silva has. But I agree, we shouldnt overhype him too much, he had fantastic season and I think next will be statisticaly less impressive, but his play will evolve into more responsible, more balanced. Having Hazard, Marin, (Oscar?), (Hulk?) along him, his play will be splitted between them and he will have more time to focus on game-dicatating. Player that just has something more inside than Hazard or Hulk. The spark, that truly reminds on that one of Zola.
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Just saw you have it on same day Clichy is also having party on same day.
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Modric isnt exactly good tackler or marker, yet he play double pivot in Tottenham. Oscar would be deep playmaker along Mikel. I guess he would be lined just a bit more forward than Mikel. I dont see him as regista, but some videos show he does lot of work in central midfield. But dont expect some heavy tackling from this guy. He is something between Mata and Lucas from Lpool type of player.
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Thats something you dont ask CL champions. FFP doesnt exist for us this summer
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Modric style of player. CAM, but plays as deep-playmaker for brasil. His atributes are passing, balance, fight for keeping the ball, crossing, vision. He is mentioned as Lampard replacement, but might also play in CAM or RW. Depend on formation. Has bright future, recently plays more (and better) for brasil than his more famous teamate Lucas. For more detail about who he is, watch some ytube videos and read previous pages. P.S.: I expect like for this
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He will play bigger role than we think. Similar to Cesc at Barca, when Villa, Pedro, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets were all fit, you could never put him in first XI, but he played much bigger role then. Something similar will happen to Oscar. As man above said, he is brasil international team starter, he might be more on bench, but he will come here as important player, not talent, prospect, future star,...He plays very good and should not compared to Lukaku, Romeu or Kdb. More to Cesc, who was first a sub, but played almost all games.
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How to know when we sign Hulk? Well the forum will crash for an hour atleast
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I will smile whole week if we sign Hulk and Oscar before 26 of july (my bday, but also start of olympic games). We will try to get Hulk till very end I guess.
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It sounds impossible, but we were after Hulk and Modric. I think if Porto will be ready to sell Hulk, we will buy him, no matter we (will) sign Oscar. Sure Moses then falls of, but Oscar and Hulk wouldnt be that impossible. Hazard, Hulk, Oscar and Marin. It would be best transfer summer ever.
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As long he keeps cool head and trains hard, there is nothing but sucess for him here.
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Also to compare, lets say we buy Neymar (im sure many of you Danny doubters would love it) and sell Danny. Neymar would cost us 40mio min. We play him all time, all team plays for him, just because he has to prove we didnt spent 40mio for flop. He will net 15goals etc. If we kept Danny, he would be used as sub and ocasionaly play and without serious support for him, score 6 goals. The point is that money decided who will we play more and who less. If we spend 30mio for player, he will be starter, If we pay for player 8 mio, everyone thinks he will be sub. If Danny would come now for 20mio, we would love it, while now we have him already for free, people want to get rid of him, just because he had bad half season. Benzema needed time in RM, Rvp needed time in Arsenal, Chicarito needed time in United. Lets give Danny another year, I say. We bought him for cheap, we wont have loss with him either. Just keep some faith in our own talent.
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Jesus, he is top prospect, one of few youngesters we actualy put in squad recenty and you want to dump him now? Torres had chances all year, support all year and he missed several 100% goals. Danny was in first half second most important player behind Mata, pushing Chelsea to at least top 4. That time, Torres, Cole, Terry, Cahill, Luiz, Lamps were all shit. Ending: Torres tried hard, had unluck, while Danny made more in terms of goals and assists. But become selfish. As character I like Torres more, as player too. But Danny was more important to us last year, is 7 years younger than Torres and can learn stuff. If both players could leave for the price they came (danny: less than 2mio, torres 50mio), I keep Danny ahead of Torres. And I like them both. But that is impossible and I hope we keep both of them and to have good seson together. Thankfuly, Danny will have olympic games to see him play and hope he impress. End.
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World class players nowdays cost 40mio+ Just to mention, Ozil cost 10 or 15mio and look how fantastic player he turned to be. He was not world class and yet after two years he is. He came to Real nothing else but very fine prospect and Mou gave him chance in first team. I think getting Oscar for 25 is something similar, yes we will pay more for him, but no top prospect would cost less (Hazard, Neymar, Lucas, Muniain, Gotze,...). If we play him enough with possibly RW regular place, he has all potential to turn like Ozil. And all that in our club. We were buying world class players in Torres, Sheva,...no one gave us what Lamps or Drogba gave. Talent and lots of chances is enough to player like Oscar becomes class. And give me 4 world class available players, we might get this summer for 125mio? Give kid a chance, he plays better in Brasil than Lucas in these last matches. As much I would love Hulk on RW, lineup of Torres, Mata, Hazard and Oscar looks as much promising and exciting.
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I like how you cant realy expect how good player will be, if we buy Hulk everyone will guess he will be star, but could turn to average, while here with players like Oscar, you can see how he grows to best of europe in your club. Something like that is fantastic. I think such signings are worthy double mention, now with Hazard, Mata, Oscar,...we can have truly magnificent team of players we made stars. If there is any other player i would equaly love to sign, its Hulk. I was watching him all time and he fits Chelsea perfectly.
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Not gonna happen for that money. With Lukaku, it was different, but if Oscar can play in national team against best team of Argentina, Denmark etc, I simply trust him. Robbie simply wouldnt put 25mio for sub player.
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Modric, Moutinho,...were all too expensive, I think Rdm wanted cm and we got him. To pay 25mio just to sit on bench is too much. I think Robbie sure has plans for him. Perhaps even as RW. But anyway we can get Hulk too. I guess we got more than 100mio from Cl win and probably we can afford that.
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I guess Roman and Rdm wanted Modric and Hulk. I dont think money was problem, but Modric wanted to go to RM and Spurs didnt want to sell to us. So we dediced to go after Oscar. That wont matter if we get Hulk or not. As long Porto will sell him to us, we will accept anything below 50mio I guess. Good buying, we would probably get Oscar for 16-18mio, but we had to offer more than Spurs and it came to 25, which is fair comparing to 40mio for Modric. Again, I dont see why would this transfer end us buying Hulk aswell.
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Fuck this, I want Hulk and Oscar at Chelsea this summer. They realy played nice together against Denmark, I can easily imagine them together here. Its so depressing that we cant do shit about, just wait and hope...
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Yeah, as long we get Hulk in the end, I dont realy care...
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I have feeling if we wont finalise deal with Oscar in this week, deal will fall apart...If its serious we will do it soon, if its just some bs rumour, we wont. It is pointless to wait for weeks to completr this deal. And once we complete the deal, I agree we should snap Hulk as soon as possible. But during olympics will be still soon enough. Before first PL match, we should complete our signings for this summer.
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Completely agree with you, Hulks price just wont be any higher except he will totaly explode there. But on other side, with only decent Hulk performance, Porto will have another excuse for their high price for him.
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I never put Ramires in my lineup, but why we wouldnt play with him on the wing actualy? In case we might lose Hulk, Ramires is very good winger I think. Yes, his passing is not best, but he would be very usefull if we miss on Hulk. A nice addition of his power and pace to technicaly gifted Mata, Marin and Oscar.