BlueLyon

I feel he was never realy Real Madrid coach. He had that fame and popularity but he made Real more of a celebrity club. Real needs classy manager, calm and someone who realy belongs there (imagine Del Bosque). Im not saying Mou isnt classy or anything, but he is centre of attention and biggest celebrity among coaches. His style was wrong for real too. Counter attacks are main tactic he is using and opens his play only when losing. If Real played with attacking football first match, there would be no doubt of finalist between Rm and Bvb. Real players should have mentality to keep the ball and pass it around. Mou closed their play too much and there is result. I am not sure how will Mou fit here but two things are certain; we will play on counter attacks and we will play better football in general (not necessary nicer, but more successful).

Schurrle is good but Kdb is easily worth around 18mio. That plus 20mio extra is 38. How the fuck is Schurle worth 38mio for Bayer?!

Why are some people soo against Modric? This year he was playing very unregulary and that is problem for such player who needs to catch rhytm. He was Reals best midfielder this year-2013 (said by Mou himself). He will be 28? So what. We cant just have team of talents. The main reason why we suck this year is because we lack experience and top players. Besides Modric is the type of player who will reach his peak in 1/2 years. Take a look at Pirlo or Xavi. Easily 5 years from Modric to come. He was never speedy or whatever, his calm passing and control will only improve. Now, he is reaching best years, he had lot of experience in RM, can handle pressure. He is PL proven (and was best midfielder of Prem last year). He wanted to join us, he will never be ahead Ozil at Real and might be looking for a move. His price would be around 25mio too, much cheaper than 40mio. For second player, I dont realy know. Benz and Pipita were very unconsistent. Benz is extreme shit in NT and Gonzalo is more of a poacher and can cross sometimes too. Higuain could work well here anyway. Khedira is good player, but seriously I would rather have L. Bender, Capoue or Vidal who are more hard working. Xabi is class player, probably my favourite at Real as he is typical allround CM. But he is 31 and I dont see him comming ever here. Why would I dream of something that impossible? Ramos is Real bound, Arbeloa is shit, Varane wont leave. Ozil is not required here and Dimaria is probably staying too. Pepe could bring some defensive skill to our team, he might be bit too old for our policy. Pepe and Modric seems most possible.

What about Phillip Wollscheid? Cb in leverkusen, huge (1,94) and realy good prospect. 24 years old, could partner solid back with Luiz for ages. Much cheaper than Howedes too.

Meh this isnt realistic system to show who is better, but I was just showing that we have long way to reach current Bvb level. One could argue that even Atletico showed better performances this season than Chelsea...

How can anyone say we are on Dortmund level this year? As a club (with history, trophies etc) yes, but in current form no way. Dortmund are far more organised team, with great coach, team chemistry (lot of home grown), loyal fans and attractive football. They are in Semis of CL, we are in europa league atm. WIth other words; Atletico won vs Chelsea 4:1, Real won against Atletico 4:1, and Borrussia Dortmund won vs real 4:1. This is where we are in europe this season. Behind Atletico, far behind Real and miles behind Bvb in terms of overall play. We lack top players, we lack team work, we lack fight and motivation, we lack of coach, we lack of respect among neutral fans/people in general. Bvb as institution is truly amazing, they proved money = nothing. I realy feel sorry for them if they will be keep losing their best players. Fortunely they can replace main stars with the likes of Dzeko, Eriksen,...

If Kdb goes to Dortumund he has written all over him that he will be huge sucess. If I was Kevin I would either want a role at Chelsea next season or just go to Dortmund if they wanted me. Kdb is too good to keep going on loans and Dortmund is fantastic club. Especialy now with Gotze gone, Kdb could wear #10 and get straight into team. He has Buli experience already. We will royaly fuck this if we let Kdb go. He is defo Gerrard potential. Not realy worlds best, but certainly top class potential.

Happy bday Mata!

This guy will go to Bayern next summer. No doubt about that.

The point is that if we spend 50mio for him, he needs to deliver 30+ goals in first season and be super effective. But that wont happen. In first year he will adopt and then he will be 28/29 next year. For someone who needs to adopt and is not effective right from start, 50mio is a way too much...he isnt worth that money. If we were spanish club (or Falcao would play for PL team) and he would be already used to play in league, it would make sense, but this doesnt. If we sign Lewa, he will need time to adopt but he will be half cheaper and only 25 by then.

Alexis is same mould as Nasri. He might have muscle and all, but he loves to dive. I want our winger to push through defence, not going down to ground all time...

Kdb is class player, Bvb knows that, Chelsea doesnt. As usual board will make mistake and sell him...fuck.

So you would buy Sanchez and have trio of 1,70m big players. In theory they would destroy everyone and all wwih their pace and skill, but reality is that they will be doing that in CL, but not in PL. No matter how you say it, but PL was always physical league and Manu, ManC have lot of strong players in attack. We would have only strker bigger (if).

Schurle is LW too, so Hazard would have to move to RW anyway. Besides Sanchez is small player, similar mould to Hazard. He is selfish, has bad decision making and lack of stamina. Bale is experienced and would give us world class attack. Impossible move though. But if it would be possible, Bale for 45mio or Sanchez for 20-25? I would go for Bale anytime, we need players who will win us games, not just waste of money.

Get your point, but both Silva and Viera (especialy Viera) were world class players in their prime, very experienced. Capoue and Witsel are very talented, but that is where it ends. Both played for Touluse and Benfica/Zenit so far...not much experience I guess. And Viera was the man that was both DLP and CM, Witsel is not as good DLP...

I would rather have Bale if we are looking for good winger...

That was straight red card mate. If Mata would get tackled like that whole forum would gone mad.

GUndogan is also schalke youth product, born in Gelsenkirchen. Obviously he didnt go straight to bvb but still. And there is talk of 20mio for Draxler from Bvb. Schalke will hardly refuse that. But its just bs for now...

You complaining about ref but Luiz tackle was straight red card. Try to be objective once. Very interesting game to watch though.

LOl my mistake. ObviOusly I meant hazard instead of striker...

QUite impossible but Dortmund will have lot of money from Gotze sale and in first place they will look for german replacement. Besides Schalke is in financial trouble now. Dortmund on other hand will have first team spot to fill and will be pretty popular if they reach finale of Cl this year. Germans naturaly dont like to leave Germany too often, but they love to go to rival clubs. All Im saying is that Draxler will want to go to big club but he is not top yet. So he would probably sit on bench in most big clubs (Rm, ManU, Chelsea, etc..) while Dortmund would give him starting spot, big paycheck and Draxler would basicaly live in same city. Dortmund has money, 37mio to spend on. Such buy from rival isnt their typical transfer policy but they will sure want to keep them as most competitive as possible. Draxler is one of biggest german talents and Dortmund has all to give him. Glory, trophies, play time, money,... And speaking of Draxler's love to So4, Gotze was saying how he wont leave Bvb for another german club, how loyal he is to bvb and all. But that is just bullshit. If I was Draxler, moraly it would be terrible to join rivals, but career wise it would be best possible way. Next level, play time and staying in home country. Bvb fans would like him from beggining too. Even rm and Barca, Rm and Atletico, Arsenal and Chelsea etc have done transfers in past too. Loyalty no more exist in most players. Take Neuer, Gotze, Gomez, Borowski, Frings, Reus from Germany only.

Dzeko and Draxler to join Dortund as possible Gotze and Lewa replacements. Wouldnt be bad for them though.

How much would L. Bender cost anyway? Him and dpl, Howedes and Shurle/Lewa. We should invest in germans too now. The more the better. Just checking our team for next years, Courtois AZpi-Luiz-Cb-Shaw? Dpl-Chalobah-Oscar MAta-Lukaku-hazard THat means we only have two english players (probably Cb and dlo wont be english). And there is big question if Chalobah will be starter in case we sign someone like Bender or other top DM. Am I the only one worried about our english player amount? Check Bayern or Borussia, Barca or even Real have lot and realy important NT players of their countries. We just dont have the english feel anymore. Our team is weaker, no english player who is key to us, we are linked with no one either. Big task for Cfc (and whole en glas football in general) to change. German and Spanish teams will rule for long time now. SpaiN has superb tradition of great prospects and germany has great system for young players. England dont realy care bout English players realy. I doubt there is any english player (or just talent) that could get into german or spanish nt.

Double post.

Gundogan and Lewa from Bvb. Tonight you saw what they are.