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I just want chaos (when we're not involved)!

Our defence has been OK without him. 3 of the last 5 goals we conceded came from either Jorginho or Kovacic while another 1 of the 5 was a long range effort.

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Would turn that into a 3-5-2, with Mount dropping into midfield.

Maybe I'll have a different reaction when we lose next weekend but as much as it'll hurt to lose the Champions League final now, not sure if we should be using to judge Tuchel. No one could have imagined us getting into the final this season, with the state of this current squad. Losing the FA Cup is the most infuriating one because that's the most winnable cup out of the two and we fucked it up, even more so after we saw the lineup and performance against the same team in midweek.

Manchester City 0-1 Chelsea PRE/POST-MATCH DISCUSSION, LIVE CHAT AND ANALYSIS 2020/21 Champions League Final 29th May, Saturday 2021 Estadio do Dragao 20:00 Kick Off (UK time)

Now for the Serie A Top 4 fiasco...

He hurt his ribs when trying to save the first goal. Seems minor? https://www.goal.com/en/news/Chelsea-to-sweat-over-mendy-injury-ahead-of-champions-league/qq9a695i9z5f10kd9iihsn68i

What do you expect when we had to rebuild our squad with new players? What do you expect when we had an inexperienced manager in charge for 18 months and then had to change to an experienced manager in the middle of a pandemic season with no time to do anything in training? For all the glory of Terry, Lampard, Drogba, Cech etc in the team 10-15 years ago, it's easy to forget that that team was forged to become what it was by Mourinho. He didn't just buy the players but he also built them to be a strong side mentally, character wise, tactically etc. Modern players can't be compared to players from that generation but we should be looking to give time to a manager to build a team to be strong in all departments - like Guardiola has done at City, like Klopp has done at Liverpool. This current team is not a ready made team like it was 10-12 years ago, where we could just sack Mourinho, Scolari, Grant, Ancelotti and continue to win regardless of who is in charge. This team needs someone to lead them and build them, not go through stupid upheavals by constantly changing manager. Ever since Mourinho got sacked the first time, only Mourinho (again) lasted more than 2 seasons and only Ancelotti, Mourinho (again!), Conte and Lampard lasted more than 1 season. Between all of that, we had Grant, Scolari, Hiddink (twice!), AVB, Benitez, Di Matteo, Sarri and now Tuchel.

"He has played the last few games in a double six role, which I don’t think is the best position for him..." https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/thomas-tuchel-Chelsea-fc-mason-mount-b935514.html

It was a half chance at best from a high ball, IIRC. The others mentioned had more glaring chances/misses.

If we go to a back 4, then the only position I see Mount is suitable for is a B2B midfielder in a 4-3-3. Tuchel already said he's not good in the pivot while he's not creative enough to be the #10 in a 4-2-3-1.

The funny thing with this is people think it's only down to having a clinical striker. Sure, it'll help but one person can't do it all. That striker can't be scoring every goal when the others like Mount, Pulisic are fluffing easy chances. Today is probably a good example. Werner barely got a decent chance to score despite getting into good positions while the likes of Pulisic, Mount, Havertz and even Chilwell somehow fluffed their lines in front of goal.

Not sure if Mount is the main man for that under Tuchel but if he's not playing as an attacker, then what is he supposed to do? What is his role in this team? The one thing I'd say is Mount gets away with A LOT of things on the pitch with the fans (more pertinent elsewhere), because he came from the academy. If he misses a chance, fluffs a final ball, makes poor decisions etc (and they have happened a lot), not many fans will complain at all. But if it's Werner, Pulisic, Havertz, Ziyech etc, there will be outrage among the fans. Sure, people will argue that Mount cost nothing while the others cost a lot of money but screw that. If people are gonna hold the others to high standards, top level standards, then it should be the same with Mount as well.

Now that the stupid drama has died down a little, am I the only one who thinks we were unlucky not to win the game? The performance wasn't the best but we created enough opportunities in the final. The only problem, as always, was the decision making and finishing touch! 🤦‍♂️

TOP 4 SECURED!

THIS IS FUCKING EXCRUCIATING!

YES THEY ARE!

Can't watch this...

His problem seems to be more about attitude/mentality than anything else.

Attackers win games but defenders win leagues. Attackers are important but we should also know better than most that having a strong defenders can be extremely valuable to the team. So much of our success over the last 15 years or so have been underpinned by a strong defence. If the homework has been done properly and you believe the player will come good, then you pay big money for that player. The best players or potential to be among the best players will always cost a lot. Is that not what everyone said when we bought Havertz last summer for £70 million+ despite not being a finished article yet? City bought Ruben Dias for only a few million cheaper than Van Dijk - around £68 million or so - and he has become one of the best defenders in the league and has just won the FWA Player of the Year last week. He's also the first defender to win that award in more than 30 years. Why do people always talk as if they are the ones who have to spend the money and not the club? Whether West Ham will accept the deal or not is not the point. The point is, if we can use Abraham to lower the fee for a deal, then we should explore at the possibility of doing it.

This may work in the odd game or two but it's never going to work consistently successfully because at the end of the day, Pulisic and CHO aren't wingbacks. We would just be putting square pegs in round holes. Not even Guardiola has done something as crazy as that consistently and even if he did manage to make it work, the one big difference between City and us is that they are far more comfortable in possession than us. We may dominate games in terms of having more possession but we aren't that good in possession based football.

LOL If the FA or the Premier League are out to get us, they should just come out and say it! #CAMPAIGNAGAINSTCHELSEA

I saw his post-Madrid comments back then and thought they were over-dramatic. The funny thing then is after he said what he said, he went and put in a run of average games, where he had little to no impact whatsoever. Not sure Ziyech justifies a start in the CL final at this point. Mount will start. Werner likely too. It's between Havertz and Pulisic for the third spot.

Says who exactly? Why does position even matter? Would you have complained had we spent £75 million on Van Dijk - not a defensive midfielder but a defensive player nonetheless - a few years ago? I'd argue that we desperately also need a new defensive midfielder considering (a) Kante isn't getting any younger and is picking up injuries here and there and (b) no one else in the midfield area has any defensive bones in them. It says a lot that most of us, if not everyone, feels panicky whenever Kante isn't playing. I agree that spending 80-90 million, flat out cash, for Rice is OTT but if we can throw Abraham in and lower the fee to about 40-50 million, then I don't see what's bad about the deal at all. We instantly get a known/proven player in the league and let go an unwanted player without having to scramble around looking for takers elsewhere. That is why there are talks of throwing Abraham into the mix to lower the fee...