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  1. So much facepalm in this thread. 'Average Arteta' and 'Crap Carrick'. They were both brilliant last season. Wonder what people are watching sometimes.
  2. Excellent performance from him today. Fergie was in the stands watching on. Presumably for United's match vs Fulham next week, maybe an eye on Dembele also.
  3. I stated my team name on the previous page but was still removed. Interesting.. Team name: Spurs 1-5 Chelsea
  4. They are in a difficult position. All the power is in Dembele's hands. He says he wants to be there but still hasn't signed a new contract. If a big club comes calling I would expect him to leave. Would be surprised if its over £10m.
  5. I think there will be more pleased Spurs fans than upset. If Chelsea had Modric and he wanted to leave, would you rather sell him to Madrid for £24m, or to one of your closest rivals (let's use United for example), which will improve their team greatly, for £40m? Madrid for me.
  6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL0rrEu1bFs&feature=plcp Some decent clips of him last season as a box to box midfielder. Excellent close control and dribbling, looks like if Madrid don't get Modric and sell Kaka, they will be after Witsel and Dembele.
  7. Just joined. Team name: Spurs 1-5 Chelsea
  8. ^ Not sure if trolling. Seems to be the 'go to' response for some on here. Maybe you could give Fifa a rest for a bit.
  9. I don't get why some people always refer to FM/FIFA when someone is just presenting an idea which is different from the most commonly used way or method. I didn't say we should use it, it would be interesting to see though.
  10. It is indeed. I stated that at the top of the post and gave the source near the end.
  11. Indeed. The Romeu - Oscar partnership was suggested as an option a few years down the line. Both players are very smart, ball retention in this formation is one of the most important things, and these two players know what type of balls to play and when.
  12. With RDM seemingly reluctant to change from the 4-2-3-1 formation, I'm keen to get others thoughts on a possible change to three at the back. I'm not yet fully convinced that the 4-2-3-1 RDM has been using suits the players at his disposal. It requires players to have specific attributes in some of the key positions that are vital in making the formation successful. The following article covers the changes Roberto Martinez implemented at Wigan, completely turning their season around while beating numerous top sides in the process. I didn't write the article, but found it a very interesting read and feel we have the players to make it a success. So without further ado, the article:<br /> <br /> Wigan stay up after a switch to 3-4-3<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> The surprise package in the second half of Premier League season was the only side who switched to a back three on a permanent basis.<br /> <br /> Background<br /> It seems odd to trace Roberto Martinez’s successful experiment with a three-man defence back to an eight-goal defeat, but that’s where we’re going to start. On the final day of the 2009/10 season, Wigan travelled to Stamford Bridge, where Chelsea needed a win to make sure of the Premier League title. Chelsea won 8-0.<br /> <br /> What went wrong? Well, Wigan went down to ten men. Gary Caldwell was sent off for denying a clear goalscoring opportunity, and Wigan could no longer play with their brave starting formation. The entire point of them playing that match was no longer there, and they ended up losing the second half 6-0 with a ramshackle formation and a half-hearted attitude.But that didn’t quite tell the story of the match. For the first half hour, Wigan actually dominated. They played an unusual 3-3-1-3ish formation, with Martinez taking the opportunity to experiment at a stage when Wigan had nothing to play for. They conceded an early goal, a slightly fortunate Nicolas Anelka strike following a set-piece – but from then on they were the better side for a good 20-minute spell. Chelsea, who were relentless and powerful at that point – but actually lacking in shape and discipline – found it very difficult to cope with the fact Wigan were playing three players in very wide positions with the ball, and by stretching the play as wide as possible, Wigan dominated possession.<br /> <br /> An interesting feature of Martinez’s post-match press conferences is his insistence on looking at a short, 10-15 minute spell when Wigan were the better side – even if it was at the end of a heavy defeat – and taking positives from it. That probably won’t be possible if Martinez moves to a bigger club, as the latest sports betting odds indicate is quite likely. At one stage this season, his confidence that these spells could be replicated over the course of 90 minutes bordered on the insane, considering his side was playing terribly for the majority of games. But this tendency to look beyond the result and see patterns of play in a set period of time is very interesting, especially when looking back at this fine first half performance (with eleven players) in an eight-goal thrashing.<br /> <br /> Return to three at the back<br /> Martinez returned to the three-man defence on the 11th February this year, for the home game with Bolton. Before that, Wigan had picked up 16 points from 24 games. From then, they won 27 points from 14 games. The turnaround was extraordinary, and while Wigan have made late comebacks something of a habit, their formation clearly played a crucial part in this season’s turnaround.<br /> <br /> Formation v Newcastle at home (4-0 win)<br /> Here are Martinez’s thoughts on the 3-4-3:<br /> “When you play a 4-3-3, you rely a lot on the full-backs to get high up the pitch. You shouldn’t look at a system as away to win a football match, it is the players that play the system. Maynor [Figueroa], Gary [Caldwell] and Antolin [Alcaraz] have been so solid with a back three, and it allows [other] players to be high up the pitch, like the wing-backs. They aren’t full-backs that need to get deep and then forward to give us an extra man, they are in positions where they can do both a little bit better, and we can be a little bit more solid.<br /> “The difference is the width that we get…before, we had to compromise a little bit, when you want to be very attack-minded, the full-backs have to push on, so you leave two players at the back. Now you’re still pushing the wing-backs on, but you’ve still got three players at the back, plus probably a midfielder. In the West Brom game, as Paul Scharner will tell you, we were attacking with seven, eight, nine players and they were surprised it, and that’s what the system gives you, without being weak at the back.<br /> “It suits our players. When you’ve got a Jean Beausejour who is a specialist in that position, you take advantage of that. The back three gives you that. Then there’s the energy we’ve got in midfield, players who can play between lines like Shaun Maloney and Jordi Gomez. It’s so difficult to play against…there’s a few clubs playing it around Europe now, Napoli are one: they play it with Cavani, Hamsik and Lavezzi…this is the advantage of this system – it goes where the danger is…it’s not in defensive lines, it’s not working as a unit of four, it’s not man-marking.”<br /> <br /> Back three characteristics<br /> The most interesting part of the formation is, naturally, the back three. Other Premier League sides have experimented with a back three, but generally only in one-off games, and often for defensive reasons.<br /> Martinez has been more committed to the shape, and it’s been interesting how ‘logical’ the statistics of his three centre-backs have been – Antolin Alcaraz, the right-sided centre-back, and the left-sided Maynor Figueroa, play as the ‘proactive’ defenders, happy to track a man, and willing to come up into midfield to make an interception. Gary Caldwell, who plays in the centre of the three, is effectively the spare man and does the dirty work in the penalty box.<br /> Therefore, using the statistics in this piece for WhoScored, there is a big difference between the performance of the ‘outside’ centre-backs, and Caldwell. See the figures for tackling and intercepting, compared to clearances, blocks and aerial duels won:<br /> <br /> These statistics take into account a period when Wigan played a back four, with Alcaraz a centre-back and Figueroa a left-back. But, regardless, the separation of duties works very naturally.<br /> <br /> Defensive version<br /> The interesting thing about the shape is that Martinez has made it work in two very different guises. There is the extremely defensive, counter-attacking shape (that is effectively more like 5-4-1, with the wide players dropping back a line), that Wigan played in the 2-1 win at Arsenal. That’s not unnatural – at the last World Cup, for example, we saw the usefulness of a three/five-man defence for minnows against stronger sides – if you’re going to sit deep in your own third of the pitch and not compete in an open game, the ‘formation battle’ isn’t so crucial. Instead, if you’re focusing on getting men behind the ball, you may as well employ an extra centre-back to deal with aerial balls into the box.<br /> In the Arsenal game, Wigan sat very deep in front of their own penalty area. They had a 3 v 1 against Robin van Persie, and one of the centre-backs, usually Figueroa, would follow him into deep positions. Caldwell would shuffle across, Wigan would defend with a 2 v 0, with no Arsenal player looking to make a run into Figueroa’s space. The wing-backs became permanent full-backs and picked up the Arsenal wingers, while the wingers dropped back and tracked the Arsenal full-backs.<br /> The interesting player was Victor Moses – although he generally stayed goalside of Bacary Sagna, he sprinted past the Frenchman as soon as possession was won, always providing the out-ball and launching Wigan breaks. The only ‘problem’ for Wigan was in the midfield, where they had a 2 v 3, but since they weren’t looking to have possession, this wasn’t a huge problem. James McArthur and James McCarthy picked up Arsenal’s two more attacking midfielders, while Franco Di Santo dropped back to become an extra midfielder, pressuring Alex Song.<br /> <br /> Attacking version<br /> Against Newcastle it was more attacking. Newcastle were playing a 4-3-3 shape, so Wigan only had 3 v 3 at the back. Faced with either playing 5 v 3 with the wing-backs dropping deep, or 3 v 3 with them pushing on, they went for the brave option. With Alan Pardew’s side looking to play quite a reactive game and letting Wigan have the ball, Martinez instructed his wing-backs to get forward and create 2 v 1 situations with the wingers down the flanks – Newcastle were caught understaffed at the back, conceding two goals in the opening 15 minutes.<br /> The most interesting feature of the play, and a small example that sums up the benefit of the 3-4-3 shape, was that Newcastle didn’t know how to press the 3-4-3 with their 4-3-3. The problem was this – Ali Al-Habsi would look to play the ball out to his three centre-backs, so Wigan could get the ball down and play. Newcastle wanted to stop them building from the back, so Hatem Ben Arfa and Demba Ba in the wide positions looked to close down Wigan’s ‘outside’ centre-backs. But this then left the Wigan wing-backs free, and Al-Habsi could knock balls out to the flank, where the wing-backs would then move forward to create those 2 v 1 situations. If the Newcastle full-backs came out to the Wigan wing-backs, then the Wigan wingers would be free.<br /> <br /> Newcastle were unable to press Wigan's 3-4-3 with a 4-3-3<br /> Newcastle’s spare man was in the centre of midfield, and they could have been cleverer with how the three shifted across the pitch to close down the Wigan wing-backs, but they still would have been vulnerable to quick balls out to the flanks anyway. In the end, Pardew decided the only way Newcastle could press Wigan (at 2-0 down, and needing the ball) was to switch to a 3-4-3 himself. Newcastle hadn’t played that way before, and haven’t played that way since. Martinez had forced the overachievers of the season to play in an alien way, and that in itself was a victory.<br /> <br /> Flexibility<br /> Martinez has also shown great ability to vary the shape within games, able to play 4-3-3 or 3-4-3. Emmerson Boyce can play right-wing-back or right-back, Maynor Figueroa can play left-centre-back or left-wing-back, Jean Beausejour can play left-wing-back or left midfield. “At Anfield we played the two separate systems,” says Martinez. “And no-one would have been able to see the difference [in terms of standard of play].”<br /> When asked if he thinks a sweeper should always play behind two other centre-backs in a back three, Martinez says, “If you play against a front two, you can do that. But if you play against a one and a one, then the sweeper plays in front, because obviously you can’t be three-versus-one at the back.”<br /> Individuals have played their part. Moses’ rise into a top-level player has been crucial, Figueroa’s passing ability means he’s almost been like an extra midfielder when needed, and the signing of Jean Beausejour is one of the underrated transfer decisions of the season. He’s a natural crosser, knows this (rough) system well having been a wing-back in Marcelo Bielsa’s Chile side, and has provided more assists than any other Wigan played despite only joining in January.<br /> But the key has been the system, and the manager who implemented it. Amongst more in-depth tactical analysis of the 3-4-3, there’s a lot to be said for simply ‘doing something different’ if you’re a weaker side in a league – give the opposition a new challenge, make them uncomfortable and ideally make them change, as Newcastle were forced to.<br /> “In a year’s time, there will be a lot of teams playing a 3-4-3, believe me,” Martinez says. “And we’ll have to be able to change, to adapt to it. And that is why it’s so important that players are flexible tactically.”<br /> <br /> Article: http://www.zonalmark...witch-to-3-4-3/<br /> <br /> ------------------------------------------------------<br /> <br /> I doubt it's something Chelsea are even looking at, at the moment. On paper we have players who could fit into this formation to a tee. David Luiz in particular I feel would thrive in a 3 man defence. At the moment there seems to be a debate as to where Ramires fits into the current system. In short, he doesn't. However, with his attributes he could do a very similar job to what Beausejour does at Wigan, but on the right side of course.<br /> <br /> On the left side, despite his willingness to get forward, I think Ashley Cole is an out and out fullback, that has improved his attacking game over time. I don't think he is suited to the wing back position, however, Ryan Bertrand could be the answer long term. In the middle of the park you need players who are mobile and able to cover a lot of distance, as well as being defensively disciplined (to an extent). Long term a Romeu - Oscar duo would be great to see, with Oriol obviously being the deeper of the two.<br /> <br /> Same as the above image, with Chelsea players<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Just some food for thought, didn't want to go into much depth.<br /> PS: If this is in the wrong section, sorry <3<br /> <br /> Click here to view the article
  13. Witsel is the complete midfielder. Great debut season for Benfica but too pricey. Has about 4 years let on his contract so Benfica have every right to be demanding so much.
  14. Indeed. City did well to sub him off, any other mistimed tackle and he would've been off. I can see why the ref gave the red, but for me it was harsh. If you remember Kompany's red card vs United last season, it was basically that but from a side angle. And even after that the referee booked Lampard when he slid in, but he clearly got the ball.
  15. I recorded the game and have watched it back about 10 times. Kolarov plays the ball onto his foot and Ivanovic follows through catching him. Rules for a red, "A challenge that far exceeded the necessary use of force and was in danger of injuring the opponent". I think it was harsh. And I've watched Savic' block on Torres and it is as clear a yellow you'll see. Only about 20 seconds before the Ivan red.
  16. To be fair to City, they beat United home and away, scored more goals and conceded less. If Jose had been in charge of City they would've been out of sight long before the season ended. Both teams will be strong this year, I still have my doubts about Mancini but a lot can still change before the transfer window closes.
  17. There will always be worrying signs at the start of the season. We haven't had the best of pre seasons and with the quality City have, it comes as no surprise that they punished us. Despite spending a lot of money, people forget that we are still a team in transition. Drastic changes won't happen overnight, personnel has changed, players are adapting to new roles. I wish people would be a little more understanding and patient. Some of the overreactions are reminisce of a few bad results and wanting the manager to get the chop. By the way, starting to know how Arsenal fans felt with Drogba. Damn you Tevez!
  18. Did well to not let it get embarrassing. Was always going to be an uphill battle when Ivanovic got sent off, especially when Savic should have been off moments before.
  19. It's actually the complete opposite. Sturridge has that unpredictability, that if trained correctly, can make him a very very dangerous player. Not many players like that out there at the moment.
  20. Sky Sports News @SkySportsNws im not The official Twitter account for Sky Sports News. The home of sports news. so follow us.... Calm down guys.. Dont cry becus i trolled you
  21. FourFourTom ‏@FourFourTom It's a big shame that Oscar's reputation will be tainted by that miss in injury time. He's had a fantastic tournament. By rival fans of course, sad but true.
  22. True. AVB loves him aswell, I could see him doing very well for Spurs.
  23. Rumours suggest he's off to Spurs in the coming week. Disappointing if he goes.
  24. 1. I thought you and TC would have a bit more common sense than to name the players that were only recently vital in Spain's Euro campaign, hence why I was talking about Thiago being the only 'best' player they didn't bring. 2. What on earth has past World Cup success got to do with the quality of teams at this very competition? I said Egypt and S.Korea arguably have better teams than this Mexico one at this tournament. 3. Second guessing for the win. Do you have close relations to these players? How do you know if they are motivated or not. Absolutely ridiculous assumptions.
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